And it's about as goofy as it gets. Just let us add a TS or TG to a channel.
Sorry, y'all can get back to discussing how awesome these new scanners are now.
BCD160DN/BCD260DN: Is this a new Uniden model? BCD260DN
Sorry, y'all can get back to discussing how awesome these new scanners are now.
Yup. Not only does One Frequency Trunk not actually trunk track, but you can add more than one frequency to that type of "system". So it's neither exclusively one frequency nor trunk. 😵
I expanded on your post to try to narrow down the actual list and "street" prices for these two new models. I decided to use the current Scanner Master pricing for the four current models mentioned. The MSRP list price should not vary from seller-to-seller but we know that the actual selling prices can vary (but not so much with the SDS series of scanners).
BC125AT:
List Price: $149.99
Scanner Master Price: $129.95
BCD325P2:
List Price: $499.95
Scanner Master Price: $399.95
Doing the math to find the exact midpoint of the above data would put the list price for the BCD160DN handheld at $324.97 with an actual selling price of $264.95.
BCT15X:
List Price: $229.99
Scanner Master Price: $199.95
BCD996P2:
List Price: $499.99
Scanner Master Price $399.95
Doing the math to find the exact midpoint of the above data would put the list price for the BCD260DN base/mobile at $364.99 with an actual selling price of $299.95.
It will be interesting to see how close my midpoint calculations come in to the actual MSRP list and selling prices when that data is released in the future. FWIW
"In that case I would like them to release it in Europe as well. I need an additional scanner next to my Whistler TRX-2 and Uniden BCT15X. Something that can handle DMR DCDM and preferably dPMR too."
I second that.
DCDM is around you. You just have not noticed anything yet.
I second that.
DCDM is around you. You just have not noticed anything yet.
You may be right... those are sound numbers if using ScannerMaster for the sale price.
I was going from the current Amazon sale prices for the scanners and then factoring in a range where I might buy them... I didn't do exact midpoints.
The numbers for Amazon pricing (as of 7/27/23) look like this:
BC125AT on Amazon: $108.13
BCD325P2 on Amazon: $341.42
Midpoint Price: $224.78
BCT15X on Amazon: $169.57
996P2 on Amazon: $370.57
Midpoint Price: $270.07
Both of those numbers are at the high end of my "PURCHASE" range for these scanners, but I am not quite the target audience for them either. (I own all the scanners mentioned above, already.)
As the price gets within ~$100 of the 325P2/996P2, I would probably just buy those instead. (P25, Trunking, Close Call, and Dynamic Memory are all easily worth the extra $ for me.)
Again, I know that I am not the typical buyer for these particular models but I may end up with the 160 if the price is right.
It will be interesting to see where the street prices actually end up.
Akuriko
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if its in the price range it will be good in my opinion
Akuriko
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Yeah thats about right i check the scanner prices daily on my amazon list and thats the current price.
Well it makes since ! If uniden would have come out with a scanner lets say only did P25 simulcast trunking only and nothing else it would hurt the sales for the SDS series so smart move by uniden , but that's not to say that further down the road after sales slow down on the SDS models that uniden could manufacture a scanner that does P25 simulcast trunking only , that's less expensive , a basic model with less bells and whistles , to make even more money I say this because some people out there refuse to spend that kind of money on the SDS scanner, so if uniden was to do this in the future then they get the budget minded people buying these !
It would be a heck of a strategy !
It would be a heck of a strategy !
To Rich, thanks for posting the pictures, I was glad to see you on the Chat last nite!
Please keep us posted on your thoughts about the new models and how happy you think they will make the railfans and air fans! Do you have a DMR system near you that you can test?
Thanks Rich
Please keep us posted on your thoughts about the new models and how happy you think they will make the railfans and air fans! Do you have a DMR system near you that you can test?
Thanks Rich
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One thing said in the Scanner Guys program left me scratching my head. Jonathan made the comment that since these new radios are "banks scanners", they would be so much easier to program than, say, a BCT15X. Really? While the 15X is not a "banks scanner", it is a DMA, not database. If you put the 15X, or any other DMA scanner, on hold, then input a frequency & hit enter, it will save the frequency in a "quick save" system. The tedious part of manually programming any of the scanners via only the keypad is entering text tags, scrolling and selecting one letter, number, or other character, one at a time. The text adding/editing is the same, slow motion, process no matter what type of scanner you are dealing with. If you entered a frequency in a 'quick save' system, you can go back later & add a text tag or make whatever other change or adjustment you want, but that process is not that more cumbersome or difficult in adding a frequency to a bank.
I can, if needed, program any of my scanners by hand, via the keypad. If I'm out somewhere, without access to my laptop or PC, I can make whatever entry or correction needed manually. But, using software, when possible, is so much faster, and easier both to enter text tags, as well as being able to spot and correct any errors or omissons from the initial entries.
I can, if needed, program any of my scanners by hand, via the keypad. If I'm out somewhere, without access to my laptop or PC, I can make whatever entry or correction needed manually. But, using software, when possible, is so much faster, and easier both to enter text tags, as well as being able to spot and correct any errors or omissons from the initial entries.
Will it do analog as well as an analog or more like a digital? In other words is it more 15x or more 996?. And last but not least the ultimate question. Best to just buy an old analog at the hamfest? Until I know its not just a feature rich poor receiver I can't get excited.
A super receiver like the 780 with database and sentinel now that I would buy.
A super receiver like the 780 with database and sentinel now that I would buy.
Despite the Uniden DMA concept being many years old at this point, it's clear by the many posts over those same years that some still struggle with the concept of Favorites/Systems/Sites/Departments/Channels. There is no denying that it's much more straightforward to simply have X amount of banks with Y amount of channels in each. Since these scanners are not trunking capable, there's really no point in over-complicating them by employing the nested System/Site/Channel/Talkgroup architecture used in the DMA/HP based scanners.
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I'm excited about this scanner not only for the features but also simply because it is a NEW model scanner. It might not be your jam but from a hobby point of view it's great to see a manufacturer still interested in bringing new models to the market. I'll be getting a 160 as soon as it's available.
I took my Uniden Beartracker scanner out to the woods and was horribly disappointed in it's performance. I didn't see a single bear.
I hope the handheld unit of this is based on the 346/396 body style and takes 3 batteries. That's assuming there is also a handheld in the works..
Akuriko
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the only thing im intrested in is the future price and release date of these scanners.
From the video, the new unit is the same form factor as the 125AT, which also resembles the 325P2. So, 2AAs it is, instead of the preferred 3.
JvdK
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If I count correctly, there are two AA-batteries on the picture. This might be giving an operating time of 4 or 5 hrs like the 125XLT but you can change the batteries on the spot (if you bring them with you) or you can connect the handheld to a powerbank like the 125XLT/3600XLT.
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Looking at the frequency on the screen I see that you are/were using this new model in the Netherlands. Does that mean you are testing this new model in Europe? Or is it just for testing this scanner with new BUTEL software for the USA market.
Perhaps you can share a few words on how it‘s performance and sensitivity is with the NLD bandplan?
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Starting to sound like a receiver more than a scanner from reading all the posts. Already have a Icom R30 but am interested in the new handheld. Guess we will see if it’s a hit when it comes out.
My only complaint with the BC125AT is the inability to save a blinking ctcss or dcs tone with one button push to save. It drives me nuts to have to spin the knob so much to find the codes when prgramming on the fly at a car race. The BCD325P2 and SDS100 have this ability.
Does anybody (Bearcat Joe or Scanner Guys) know if the BCD160DN will have this ability?
I watched the scanner guy's video; he mentioned third party software for programming. Will there be Uniden software similar to the 125 and sc230 software for programming available?
Does anybody (Bearcat Joe or Scanner Guys) know if the BCD160DN will have this ability?
I watched the scanner guy's video; he mentioned third party software for programming. Will there be Uniden software similar to the 125 and sc230 software for programming available?
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