Thanks for the heads up on Scanner Master!
BCD160DN/BCD260DN: Is this a new Uniden model? BCD260DN
JvdK
Member
yep, it’s difficult to find good staff these days…..
Like we say in the (NLD) navy: trust is a good thing, verification is better
Ubbe
Member
Have Uniden changed their policy about only doing conventional system and not trunked systems in the 260? The user manual says:
• CAP. Capacity Plus/Linked Capacity Plus site’s voice and data in MotoTRBO system.
• CON. Connect Plus site’s voice and data in MotoTRBO system.
• DT3. Trunked DMR site’s voice and data in ETSI Standard Tier 3 system.
• DMR. One frequency DMR site’s voice and data/Simplex DMR voice.
• IDS. IDAS in NXDN system.
• ND4. NXDN 4800 Direct Frequency
• ND9. NXDN 9600 Direct Frequency
• NX4. NXDN 4800 NEXEDGE
• NX9. NXDN 9600 NEXEDGE
• NXD. Unknown NXDN system
• XPT. Hytera XPT site’s voice and data in MotoTRBO system.
• P25/DAT. APCO Project 25 is not supported, so the scanner skips P25 signals when searching or scanning.
Are the zip scanner $532 price the one when you want a trunked 260, much like a BCD536 but without database and SD card features?
/Ubbe
• CAP. Capacity Plus/Linked Capacity Plus site’s voice and data in MotoTRBO system.
• CON. Connect Plus site’s voice and data in MotoTRBO system.
• DT3. Trunked DMR site’s voice and data in ETSI Standard Tier 3 system.
• DMR. One frequency DMR site’s voice and data/Simplex DMR voice.
• IDS. IDAS in NXDN system.
• ND4. NXDN 4800 Direct Frequency
• ND9. NXDN 9600 Direct Frequency
• NX4. NXDN 4800 NEXEDGE
• NX9. NXDN 9600 NEXEDGE
• NXD. Unknown NXDN system
• XPT. Hytera XPT site’s voice and data in MotoTRBO system.
• P25/DAT. APCO Project 25 is not supported, so the scanner skips P25 signals when searching or scanning.
Are the zip scanner $532 price the one when you want a trunked 260, much like a BCD536 but without database and SD card features?
/Ubbe
mcjones2013
Radio Communications Enthusiast
That wording is interesting to me.
It would suggest these scanners can understand and detect P25 signals, but then purposely skips them? That's nice so you don't get stuck on the analog garble when coming across a P25 signal in analog.
Prior to the other scanners supporting DMR and NXDN, it would stop on those signals in analog mode and you'd hear the analog garble; it didn't understand that it was 0's and 1's that it couldn't understand and force a skip.
Maybe I'm overthinking it; maybe they've made these scanners understand they're receiving 0's and 1's but don't know how to decode, so it moves on. Smart.
But if it can actually detect P25 signals (versus just knowing it's an undecodable digital signal), could the ability to allow P25 signals to be heard, possibly through a future upgrad, whether paid or not, happen? Even conventional only P25 could be nice.
I interpret that as it will decode DMR/NXDN voice but no trunk tracking...but I could be wrong.
tvengr
Well Known Member
That is my understanding also.
It is only one frequency NXDN/DMR no truncking.
Ubbe
Member
It has to decode it as P25 to be able to skip it. Uniden doesn't have to pay any license fees if they don't decode the information, so they could probably add P25 as a paid upgrade to cover the license costs.
/Ubbe
Ubbe
Member
Yes, that is what have been said. As it decodes all TG's without any way of selecting or avoid them, it would be difficult to follow a call that jumps across voice channels if you scan them in a conventional way. But usually a call has long enough hold time to keep it on the same slot throughout a call.
But what about the "Trunked DMR site’s voice and data" statement? What data? And why not say "a frequency slots voice information" Will it stay on a site somehow until it times out without any calls, or go to the next frequency in the scan list even if the other slot have active calls?
In another place it says:
"Digital Only: The radio will scan assuming only digital signals are coming. Digital communications that cannot be demodulated and data signals (such as control signals) are ignored; scanning resumes after data channel signals are received."
Here it ignores all data that isn't voice, as is logical to the scanners operation, so the statement about what modes it handles that says data have probably been copied and pasted from another document without checking that it is actually correct for the 260.
/Ubbe
The BCD160DN has my interest. Years ago I had a BC125AT which was an excellent scanner except it didn't cover the 800 band. This BCD160DN looks to have about everything I would want except for whatever reason Uniden isn't including their Close Call RF capture feature in this model. Being able to capture the frequency and decode the CTCSS of who was transmitting close by was half the fun of the BC125AT. I wonder if close call could be added to the BCD160DN in a future firmware update if there's enough interest.
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Remon
Newbie
The UBC125XLT has the 800 MHz band AND Close Call.
Akuriko
Member
The scanner master says out of stock, I assume because they haven't been shipped to the public yet and there is no release date? am I correct in assuming this is whats happening?
Probably
Of course.
Ubbe
Member
No, it needs a special frequency counter chip to handle closecall and as it costs money to include a somewhat expensive chip that isn't used they for sure do not do that.
/Ubbe
I would think that would take a new design and these units are using existing FCC authorizations. I highly suspect these are the 996P2 and 325P2 with dumbed down FW…but I could be wrong.
Zip Scanners and Bearcat Warehouse are accepting orders at this time for both the BCD160DN handheld and BCD260DN base/mobile. Uniden.com and Scanner Master have both models on their websites with pricing but they are not accepting orders at this time.
See my RR post from 2 days ago in another Uniden thread for direct links to both models at all 4 vendors including estimated shipping dates for Zip Scanners and Bearcat Warehouse.
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