ISP Restructuring for 2023 Official Thread

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I suspect that it is more likely that some D15 troopers are being detailed to Troop 3, either for voluntary OT or on-duty assignments from time to time. Cross-district details are pretty common and have been for years.

According to news reports there are extra ISP patrols on Chicago area expressways due to a rise in highway shootings and other crimes so it is a good bet that they are pulling in resources from where ever they can.

I remember years ago dealing with troopers from several other districts along the Edens and Kennedy Expressways during another rash of incidents. There were even District 2 and 15 cars working the Edens construction detail in the early 1980's.
This is true and many of the details have been with Troop 3 personnel lately. They have 40 probationary troopers that will be solo patrol soon.

The 2023 budget showed they purchased 6 new motorcycles, and added 19 troopers in 2022. As I posted in the Starcom thread, starting to see some new radio ID structure being programmed. Whether one has to do with the other remains to be seen. I'm curious how this will work.
 

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Another consideration - Troop 15 extends west way beyond the confines of Troop 3. What about those Trooper assignments?
This would make the most sense. Interstate 90 extends into Troop 1, Interstate 88 extends into Troop 2, so those Troops could add some Troop 15 personnel to supplement the patrols and cover those areas.
 

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I've been searching the contract information for the Tollway Authority, and haven't seen any mention of this. I have seen the 2023 Troop 15 budget information on-line, and yet to find any mention of ISP contract termination documentation. Can your "rumor mill" point us into the direction of a document for our viewing pleasure? Is the plan to disband Troop/District 15, and those troopers can transfer to other Troops if desired? Will the Tollway be added to Troop 3 patrol assignments? Will the tollway reimburse ISP for patrolling?

I took a poke around and found an intergovernmental agreement in 2020 between the ISP and the Tollway here:


The IGA between them looks like it begins on pages 11-12 and it looks like with a years notice they can terminate the agreement. If 15 is absorbed in to the new troops, it will be interesting to see if a new agreement is put in place for the tollway to pay to staff the specific beats or zones on the tollway with troopers from the respective troop covering those areas.
 

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This thread is about the restructuring of the ISP, let's please keep it related to that.
 

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I know that this thread hasn't been used in a while but I have created a Map to make use of jurisdiction area very easy to view. Please make any suggestions as needed.

 

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Do you have any info on the patrols on the new(ish) IL-390 Tollway? I presume they are patrolled by T-15.
 

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Do you have any info on the patrols on the new(ish) IL-390 Tollway? I presume they are patrolled by T-15.

I know they have tolls on that route but I'm not 100% if they cover that area. This may change once I-490 is built.
I 390 is patrolled by Troop 15/Zone 3. ITHA M-16.
 

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Today there was a shooting in a small community of LaSalle County. ISP and DNR responded to assist the county sheriff and the units were advised to go to "2B" and use that for the incident. 9020 is the talkgroup that appears to be "2B" which was "17B" before with the units referencing "2A" which is 9015 patched with 9019 (the old "07A" and "17A").

I find it interesting that they reference "2A" and "2B" while Troop 3 Southwest still refers (as of yesterday) "5A" and "5B" :) Can't tell the players without a scorecard eh? :)
 

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Today there was a shooting in a small community of LaSalle County. ISP and DNR responded to assist the county sheriff and the units were advised to go to "2B" and use that for the incident. 9020 is the talkgroup that appears to be "2B" which was "17B" before with the units referencing "2A" which is 9015 patched with 9019 (the old "07A" and "17A").

I find it interesting that they reference "2A" and "2B" while Troop 3 Southwest still refers (as of yesterday) "5A" and "5B" :) Can't tell the players without a scorecard eh? :)
It is kind of funny since the new radio programming shows 3-Southwest and 3-B05 in the template. They'll start off with "attention District Chicago ISPERN units", and finish it with "Troop 3 Chicago".
 

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I find it interesting that they reference "2A" and "2B" while Troop 3 Southwest still refers (as of yesterday) "5A" and "5B" :) Can't tell the players without a scorecard eh? :)
Over the past week, I've been hearing more of these "channel assignment issues". I suspect the "old" channels are showing on the telecommunicators consoles and have yet to be updated? The latest was kind of funny a couple days ago when 3-462 went 10-41 on the 3-Southwest Channel, but his patrol assignment was a N-Nora (North) Patrol assignment. The TC told him to "switch to 2-A" which is the "old 2-A/new 3-North" channel. So, like a good new solo patrol trooper he did, and to his surprise, Sterling answered and told him "this is Sterling". He switched back to 3-Southwest and asked the TC again for the proper channel assignment as 2-A was Troop 2 Sterling. She came back up (sounding a little annoyed) and said, "switch to North on your radio".

3-62 always reports "switching to South/Southwest/North etc" as he goes to his patrol assignment if he checks in somewhere else which also confirms the radio channel template.

The "attention District-Chicago" and ending with "Troop 3-Chicago" announcements occasionally being heard. I've heard reference to the "old" DC-B as "switch to B for the detail". 3 (B-05) is being called 5-B or B-5 depending on who's saying it.

Some Troop 3 units still have the "old" D-5 Car-to-Car. IDOT 1995/1996/1997 are using 3-Southwest more frequently for car-to-car traffic for I-80 incidents

The "old" DC-Local channel, that used to be heard escorting NFL teams here has been silent. I think all that traffic is on the encrypted "old" DC Tac-1 since I'm seeing alot of encryption when the Bears are in town and the RID's are Troop 3 units.

Current active talk groups in Troop 3:

3-A-9005
3-B-9006
3-North-9002
3-Middle-9007
3-Southwest-9013
3-South-9008
3 Car-to-Car-9067
3-ISPERN-9051
3 (B-5)-9014
3 (5 Car-to-Car)-9068
 

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Good info , 3-SW alias D5 9013 is our main listening here in Joliet as is 1995 and expressway 1411 all seem to patrol the I80 and Chicago St area which is the infamous I80 bridge ,....Amazingly it's still standing!!!
 

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Good info , 3-SW alias D5 9013 is our main listening here in Joliet as is 1995 and expressway 1411 all seem to patrol the I80 and Chicago St area which is the infamous I80 bridge ,....Amazingly it's still standing!!!
They have some really bad crashes on that stretch
 

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I was in St. Clair Co on Tuesday late morning in the metro east (St Louis area) driving on Hwy 64 at Hwy 159. I monitored, very loud and clear, a trooper on a traffic stop on Hwy 36 and a set of RR tracks in Decatur. The TG was 13007. I have looked at the new troop map and Decatur looks to be in the new troop 7. That is close to 100 miles from where I was. Should I have heard that traffic from that distance or could it have been some kind of skip? Or secondly, could it be related to the dispatch center in Collinsville being fairly close to where I was? And does that dispatch center actively dispatch for more than one troop?

I live in St Louis so my reception of Starcom TG's is pretty much non existent. So my reception notes are new. With the new troop boundaries could that mean receiving a larger area of radio signals for Starcom? Thanks.
 

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More than likely a SC radio was in the Metro East Collinsville area was affiliating with the Troop 7. Whatever Talk Group a Trooper has selected in his 700/800 MHz SC radio permits him to have state wide access to his home assignment TG’s. If a Trooper travels out of the geographic area of their Troop/District they’re supposed to set their mobile radio to the TG for their physical location. Policy isn’t always followed by Troopers when traveling to other parts of the state for training or details. It’s possible the Trooper had another reason for having Troop 7 primary Dispatch selected. I know of a Trooper who’s Daughter was also a Trooper in the opposite end of the state. When they both worked midnight’s he used to listen to her District. There was very little radio traffic during those times and no one ever noticed.

The Policy about changing TG’s when leaving your area of assignment is to limit the number of TG’s that have to be broadcast. Imagine every Trooper from every Troop/District in the state left their StarCom radio on their home TG when going to work a state fair or detail in the Chicago area. The system couldn’t handle all the traffic and would create a shortage of available air time.

If there are issues with the StarCom 21 system or personnel issues the Talk Group could be handled by a different Communication Center location. With the Consolidation of Troops there was a reductions in the number of dispatch locations. The Decatur area in Troop 7 is normally handled out of Pontiac in Troop 5. It is possible Troop 7‘s primary TG 13007 could be operated by Collinsville (Troop 8), Springfield (Troop 6) or other communication center if there was a need.
 
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I was in St. Clair Co on Tuesday late morning in the metro east (St Louis area) driving on Hwy 64 at Hwy 159. I monitored, very loud and clear, a trooper on a traffic stop on Hwy 36 and a set of RR tracks in Decatur. The TG was 13007. I have looked at the new troop map and Decatur looks to be in the new troop 7. That is close to 100 miles from where I was. Should I have heard that traffic from that distance or could it have been some kind of skip? Or secondly, could it be related to the dispatch center in Collinsville being fairly close to where I was? And does that dispatch center actively dispatch for more than one troop?

I live in St Louis so my reception of Starcom TG's is pretty much non existent. So my reception notes are new. With the new troop boundaries could that mean receiving a larger area of radio signals for Starcom? Thanks.
Chances are a trooper was in your area and his radio was set to 13007, that would cause the traffic to be carried on the site in your area.
 

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Great answers. In MO on the MOSWIN system each county/city is assigned a 'travel' channel for use outside their regular response area.
 
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