ISP Restructuring for 2023 Official Thread

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Probably talking about the RID page for ISP on starcom

Yes, that's the one!

Troop 3 is from 3-1 to 3-276, 3-400 to 3-439 (probationary). The 3-600 series are at the weigh stations and rotate between them.

Troop 15 is from 15-1 through 15-199.
 

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At the risk of hurting someones feelings. Who the hells idea was this change and why seems like a big waste of time and money
 

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At the risk of hurting someones feelings. Who the hells idea was this change and why seems like a big waste of time and money

I don't think anyone is here that was responsible for making any decisions about ISP, no feelings to be hurt. Roll with the changes, not the first time changes occurred , won't be the last.
 

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At the risk of hurting someones feelings. Who the hells idea was this change and why seems like a big waste of time and money
To consolidate dispatch operations. Less TC needed, Now with Starcom multiple districts could be dispatched by one TC or bunch of TC's on the same area, since they moved them into troop areas. The physical district buildings are still staying the same for the most part.
 

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Your correct about the buildings, D5 old headquarters is deteriorated bad, the only action there seems to be the shooting range,....
 

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The State Police budget is small in comparison to other state agencies and programs. If you look at the entire state budget like a pie, corrections is a pretty good slice. Illinois Dot is a pretty good slice but the ISP budget isn’t the width of a line in the pie. The biggest line item for ISP is salaries so reducing staff has a significant impact on the ISP budget. The ISP has way fewer clerical, tele-communicator or other non sworn staff now compared to the 80’s.

Reducing inmate population, correctional staff and/or facilities will give more money to pet projects in other areas of the state budget. The ISP re-structuring was not popular with the majority but they had no say, they’re just along for the ride. A common theme in the ISP is if you don’t like how things are now wait awhile as there is perpetual change.

The Director of the ISP is a political appointee and is usually responsible for policy or structural change.
 

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From what I've heard from someone that was part of the lateral academy that graduated in December, the original purpose of that class was to increase the number of troopers in what is now Troop 3 and fill vacancies. They did not anticipate as many Central and Southern IL officers applying for it, most of who left smaller agencies looking for better pay and benefits. That is at least a large part of why they did this restructure - to try and spread out what they had and gained through the recent academies in order to get better coverage statewide.

Some of you may have seen ads for the new lateral class they're recruiting, which is exclusively for people that live within the boundaries of Troop 3. That is why it's restricted, so they don't get another influx of central/southern officers applying for it.
 

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There are an inordinate number of probationary troopers on the air in Troop 3 the last few weeks. They also all sound fairly professional on the radio, so a lot of them being laterals explains that.
 

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There are an inordinate number of probationary troopers on the air in Troop 3 the last few weeks. They also all sound fairly professional on the radio, so a lot of them being laterals explains that.

In the 3rd and 4th week of December, 2 separate classes of Probationary Troopers started in their respective "Districts". Between District-Chicago, District 2, and District 5, a total of 40 Probationary Troopers have been added. Around the 28th-29th of December, all three Districts became Troop 3 and are using radio signatures from 3-400 through 3-439.

ISP is advertising the next Lateral Transfer Class is scheduled to start March 1st, 2023 and all Probationary Troopers will be assigned to Troop 3. While it might "discourage" some Illinois police officers from applying, they all know they will gain experience and can transfer to another Troop as time passes.

I didn't interpret the latest recruitment as to discourage anyone from applying, but instead letting applicants know where they will be assigned from the start. I don't know if this was a labor contract issue for them to do so, but might have had some resignations especially if they live further south. Also by doing this, thy have much more control as to patrol/detail assignments without having to reach out to other Troops for personnel. I'm sure the Troop commanders have alot of lead way as to logistics within their Troops.
 

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In the 3rd and 4th week of December, 2 separate classes of Probationary Troopers started in their respective "Districts". Between District-Chicago, District 2, and District 5, a total of 40 Probationary Troopers have been added. Around the 28th-29th of December, all three Districts became Troop 3 and are using radio signatures from 3-400 through 3-439.

ISP is advertising the next Lateral Transfer Class is scheduled to start March 1st, 2023 and all Probationary Troopers will be assigned to Troop 3. While it might "discourage" some Illinois police officers from applying, they all know they will gain experience and can transfer to another Troop as time passes.

I didn't interpret the latest recruitment as to discourage anyone from applying, but instead letting applicants know where they will be assigned from the start. I don't know if this was a labor contract issue for them to do so, but might have had some resignations especially if they live further south. Also by doing this, thy have much more control as to patrol/detail assignments without having to reach out to other Troops for personnel. I'm sure the Troop commanders have alot of lead way as to logistics within their Troops.

The application process ends on March 1st, actual academy won't be until October for the Chicago Lateral class. While it's not explicitly required to live in Troop 3 while in the application process, it's a read-between-the-lines thing that they want them to already live in the area. After graduation, they will have to move into Troop 3 if they don't live there already, but as a practical matter, the majority of their academy time (everything but the first 3 and last 2 weeks) is spent in Troop 3 (at one of the Troop 3 offices). Part of the selling point is you get to go home every night while in the local part of training, so it's impractical, if not impossible, for someone in say Troop 10's area to commute back and forth for that. Maybe you could get a hotel room out of pocket, but that's just going to cut into your pay.
 

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ISP just tweeted this:

To celebrate the formation of new ISP Troops, our Troopers are receiving new license plates for their squad cars. 🚔Troopers will begin displaying the new license plates next month. Be on the l👀kout for these new license plate designs on squad cars near you! #ILStatePolice
 

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Two things:

The British (possibly Irish?) dispatcher has a VERY thick accent. It's... remarkable. He's good though. It would be interesting to hear him work the Eastern European/Russian trooper(s) in D15. I've heard the dispatcher with the vocal cord issue less, but I think he's still around.

Also, I heard a Victor callsign in D15, working routine patrol on I-90 near the Wisconsin border. Any ideas what that is? Wouldn't seem to be vehicle identification...
 

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Two things:

The British (possibly Irish?) dispatcher has a VERY thick accent. It's... remarkable. He's good though. It would be interesting to hear him work the Eastern European/Russian trooper(s) in D15. I've heard the dispatcher with the vocal cord issue less, but I think he's still around.

Also, I heard a Victor callsign in D15, working routine patrol on I-90 near the Wisconsin border. Any ideas what that is? Wouldn't seem to be vehicle identification...
District 15 used to assign an allotment of overtime to be used for various types of patrol. This overtime was available to any sworn Trooper who was willing to work OT.

Troopers used to work speed, DUI, toll evasion, aggressive driving or high accident areas. Many times a Trooper would try to work OT near his residence so he had less travel time. Some Troopers would work OT prior to or after their shift as long as approved by the Sgt.

The Troopers assigned to the truck detail would work over time enforcing over weight trucks and/or unsafe trucks.

There was always a lot of OT near the end of the physical year, holidays or in construction zones.

If there was a shift vacancy for patrol and the zone couldn’t get a volunteer the OT was offered to specialty assignments like VIB or PIO or other zones. With the cost of living very few OT shifts went to other zone Troopers back in the 80’s and 90’s.


The Tollway tended to have significant over time compared to other District under the State Budget. During the 80’s and 90’s over time moneys were exhausted or not budgeted and Troopers only got comp time whereas the Tollway always got paid OT if they wanted cash instead of comp time. Some Troopers liked saving up their comp time to use as extra vacation.
 

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Also, I heard a Victor callsign in D15, working routine patrol on I-90 near the Wisconsin border. Any ideas what that is? Wouldn't seem to be vehicle identification...
Why wouldn't it seem to be vehicle identification? Every district had one of them, even 15. Most of them did normal patrol routes.
 

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I noticed today that the O K9 units working in Troop 2 dropped the "K9" from their callsigns and are "King" units now. For example, "O-K9-5" is now "Ocean-King-5" on the radio. I haven't heard any regular K9 troopers come on the air yet but I'll keep an ear out.
 
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