Let's try this area for the 536 App discussion plus other random thoughts

[fxdscon]

Here's a term for your behavior that doesn't need any looking up what so ever: batsh-- crazy.

-AZ

Yep.. As someone once said, the simplest explanation is usually the right one.

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[LIScanner101]

Jay - when you sit down at a restaurant and order a meal are you OK with not getting everything that was listed on the menu? I mean, after all, you've been around the block a few times, right? Surely you don't mind.

 

[mciupa]

I love the back and forth of this thread. It reminds me of my favorite Three Stooges episode "Disorder in the Court", especially this part when Curly is sworn in in front of the judge;

Judge: [pounds gavel] Take off your hat. Now raise your right hand. Now place your left hand here. [in order to do so, the hat goes back on his head] Take off your hat. Raise your right hand. Now put your left hand here. [Hat back on head] Please take off your hat. Raise your right hand! Now put your left hand here! Will you please take off your hat! Raise your right hand! Now put your left hand here! Take off your hat! Raise your right hand! Would you get rid of that hat!

Wooo-wooo-wooo-wooo-wooo

 

[KevinC]

I like my BCD436HP...but...

From the official Uniden announcement...

Analysis Modes include Band Scope, RF Power Plot, Trunked System Analysis, and EDACS/LTR LCN Finder.

WebHome < NewScanners < TWiki

Is this a deal breaker for me? No, but it IS supposed to have that (those) function(s).

Yes, but was that false advertising? I don't think so. It's not like we were promised a top-of-the-line scanner and then opened the box to find a $10 toaster. And Paul was very up front BEFORE release day about the fact that these features were not yet ready so anyone who felt that the scanner wasn't worth buying because of that had plenty of time to cancel their pre-orders and pay nothing. Same goes for the Siren app. Paul made it very clear that it was NOT going to release with the scanner as originally planned, well before anyone had their radio.

I see nothing whatsoever deceptive about anything Uniden has said or done. That kind of upfront honesty is rare in Corporate America these days. Try getting anything out of most mail-in rebate offers these days if you don't believe me. Companies offer those because they make millions from people who either forgot to send it the rebate or didn't follow each little instruction to the letter and made themselves ineligible for it. A mail in rebate is the same as a cleaning deposit on an apartment: It is Money You Will Never See Again.

-AZ

I should have NEVER posted that!

I said absolutely nothing at all about it being false advertising.

I simply quoted a feature that is in the official announcement and not in the radio.

I'm about the most fair person here, I've posted what I like about the scanner and several "bugs" that irk me.

I'm done before I get accused of saying something else I didn't say.

 

[AZScanner]

Jay - just admit it. You didn't get what you paid for. I don't care whether you "care" about the Analyze feature or not, but your money paid in part for it.

So? Who are you? His mommy? I think whether or not he got his money's worth is up to him, not you. He's the almighty "consumer" remember? By your own logic (at least the parts of it that I'm actually able to follow due to it's irrational delivery) that means his opinion matters more than yours does - you know, since you still don't own either radio and never will.

But you can keep spinning spinning spinning. I know it's easier than saying "OK, I was wrong".

Says the guy who spends every waking moment spinning every fart in the breeze into something that is Uniden's fault. :roll:

-AZ

 

[LIScanner101]

I STRONGLY believe that the very people here who claim to be hunky-dory with not getting everything they paid for are in fact doing a DISSERVICE to the scanner community at large.

How so?

Well, by figuratively allowing Uniden to bend them over a barrel they are sending a VERY CLEAR MESSAGE to them that they don't have to give you what you paid for. You make it easier for them to cut corners because you don't complain and, in fact, you do the complete opposite and carry the water for them.

But they're too blinded by the Uniden Kool-Aid to see.

 

[AZScanner]

I should have NEVER posted that!

I said absolutely nothing at all about it being false advertising.

I'm done before I get accused of saying something else I didn't say.

I know you didn't, and I didn't say you did Kevin. I was simply posting (before you-know-who had a chance to jump all over it and scream FALSE ADVERTISING) that the lack of this feature is simply a delay in it's delivery, not a failed promise to deliver the product people paid for - you know some people here are so desperate for "proof" of their absurd accusations that they'll cling to even the slightest turn of a phrase. They're worse for that than Faux News.

-AZ

 

[AZScanner]

I STRONGLY believe that the very people here who claim to be hunky-dory with not getting everything they paid for are in fact doing a DISSERVICE to the scanner community at large.

How so?

Well, by figuratively allowing Uniden to bend them over a barrel they are sending a VERY CLEAR MESSAGE to them that they don't have to give you what you paid for. You make it easier for them to cut corners because you don't complain and, in fact, you do the complete opposite and carry the water for them.

But they're too blinded by the Uniden Kool-Aid to see.

JFW... Just [censored] Wow.

How long before we become the Downfall of Society too?

You really are obsessed. All this time I thought it was an act, but you've convinced me - you need professional help. Seek it.

-AZ

 

[Jay911]

Jay,

Are you sure you're not a politician?

You have a knack for spinning things to your point.

Hell no, I wouldn't be caught dead in a political job.

As for "spinning things to my point", I just see the logic in things. People in here are trying to claim that Uniden falsely advertised that a particular feature would be available at a specific time, when no such advertising was made. When it all boils down to the underlying point, that Uniden falsely advertised something, the truth is, they did not. That claim is unequivocally disproven.

You clearly have invested so much energy into singing the praises of the new Unidens that you are literally avoiding reality. You simply can't accept it.

Sure. Go ahead and believe that. Be my guest.

Jay911, does the box and Uniden advertising clearly show that the Analyze app is a feature of these scanners? Of course it does.

Yet here you are, claiming that MAYBE it was IMPLIED that it would be a feature.

I claim(ed) nothing of the sort. I pointed out the simple, blindingly obvious truth that the Siren app did not have a release date on the original launch announcement. There is nothing to infer that its release would be coupled with the release date of the 536 or any other deadline. That was in response to your buddy saying that Uniden "always" promised the app and "never" gave any hint of it being delayed "except on THIS PRIVATE SITE!(!&$@!". I proved him wrong, and that's all there is to that.

Do you really believe what you are saying here?

What I believe "here" is that there are a small group of whiny complainers who, inexplicably, feel like they've been screwed out of something by Uniden, when that's just patently untrue and not at all provable. The simplest statement I can make is: "Uniden never promised the Siren app would come out with the radios. In fact, they stated the opposite by indicating that there would be more information available before (the app's) release." As for Analyze mode, I can't believe I have to say this a third (or fifth, or seventeenth) time, but I'm not at all concerned that Analyze isn't present in the current version of the radios. It wasn't present in the first firmware for the HP1 either. I'm not losing sleep, money, or anything else by not being able to use it. About the only thing I could conceivably say I'm deprived of by not having Analyze is an elevated level of enjoyment of my radio. But I'm not so worked up over it that I am ranting about it over and over and over and over on an Internet forum. I never said the things you and your crony accuse me of saying, that Analyze isn't part of the x36's feature set. On the contrary, I said it was supposed to be there and isn't, but that doesn't bother me much. That was supposed to be an example of how people other than yourself and your buddy do have disappointments about the radios, but they haven't freaked out about it like you two have. I could pick some other feature if you like, such as display of radio IDs on phase II P25 systems. I don't have any P25 II systems near me, so I don't care about this feature. Others do have such systems and are not acting like this is a scandal worthy of Paul Opitz's resignation, like you two are with the Siren app.

How do you know what features are REALLY included and which ones are not?

I hit the Menu button and look at the screen. Occasionally I might rotate the selector knob and then press it. If I come across "Not Available", I take that to mean that that feature is not present. How about you? How do you determine what's in your x36HP radio?

Look at you with your $10 words! Cognitive something, bah I already lost interest.

Here's a term for your behavior that doesn't need any looking up what so ever: batsh-- crazy.

-AZ

I thought it was ironic that I was linking to Simple Wikipedia for his partner in crime while he was pecking at the keys managing to whack out 'cognitive dissonance'.

 

[Dafe1er]

What I have and had posted about is not meant to show I nor anyone else wants/ needs to sue Uniden.

What it is doing is showing the credibility of Uniden and how they are handling things.

They have had many problems from the get go and what has been discussed in my thread shows more issues to go with the rest. There are currently members waiting information on other things that do not seem to work correctly and Uniden has sat quite the entire time on some of them.

It has been made very clear that they rushed these units out. They or anyone from here can say it was because we rushed them to do it. It was not. I feel they just did not take the correct amount of time to get things working and sold things (without realizing it) on a false promise to "beat" the competition. Which currently there still is no competition to "beat".

Just because I have NO issue speaking my mind on things, it does not mean I am not enjoying their products. Will I buy another Scanner made by them? Maybe sometime if the far future. Will I enjoy the two scanners I have that they have made? YES. They seem to work for what I need them to do right now. Do I like their way of doing business and being forth coming on their products and or "extra's"? No, and this is why I have spoken my mind. It seems others feel the same or understand I am just trying to get clarification, not beat-up on Upman. I even think he is smart enough to know I am not attacking him but the company he work's for.

It has been a select group of trouble makers that have turn each and every thread opened on the App upside down and cause it to derail because they either love Uniden that much (which is creepy), Have a hand on the payroll, or are just drama lovers and need to stick their two sense. You can say it was me but, it was funny how I start mentioning real things and all of a sudden I am on the sites radar and threads started to close. I even got my first warning since being a member for derailing an already derailed thread.

Let's all come to an agreement. Upman stated what he has. We now know it is going to be a little longer for the App to come out and possibly the Analysis mode. We can all live with that. Maybe in the future Upman or someone in the know can come on the site and give us a batch of information on how it is projected to really work and be used. Until then we really have nothing more to discuss in this thread.

Going back and forth trying to be the smarter person is just showing how stupid we ALL really are!

 

[AZScanner]

I thought it was ironic that I was linking to Simple Wikipedia for his partner in crime while he was pecking at the keys managing to whack out 'cognitive dissonance'.

Oh no... you quoted me. Now he's going to have to run home to his mommy and have her wash his eyes out and tuck him in for beddy bye because seeing what I post is too painful for him. You're so mean.

-AZ

 

[Jay911]

Jay - just admit it. You didn't get what you paid for. I don't care whether you "care" about the Analyze feature or not, but your money paid in part for it.

And you don't have it.

But you can keep spinning spinning spinning. I know it's easier than saying "OK, I was wrong".

Why would I say I'm wrong when I'm not? I paid for a radio, I received a radio. Whether it has all the features in it at present isn't relevant.

I made an analogy earlier but you must have missed it in the red mist. I paid for a new pickup truck with navigation and media connectivity to my phone. I don't have media connectivity to my phone with this version of the software in the nav console. By your line of thinking, I should be all over the Ford forums, thrashing about and screaming bloody blue murder. Right?

Jay - when you sit down at a restaurant and order a meal are you OK with not getting everything that was listed on the menu? I mean, after all, you've been around the block a few times, right? Surely you don't mind.

Definitely. Sometimes I even ask for it that way! That's the beauty of this society we live in.

you need professional help. Seek it.

Best advice yet.

 

[WILSON43]

As I read thorugh this thread, and the response from Paul, I gazed over to my HP-1 units and was reminded of issues occurring with those units where firmware fixes were promised and never delivered.

The same issued transferred to the new units, as was well documented in these forums.

So, I guess the HP-1 is old news, and we will probably never see a firmware update again for those radios.
Shame.

I wonder of this fate is in store for the 436 and 536 down the road....?

 

[AZScanner]

It has been a select group of trouble makers that have turn each and every thread opened on the App upside down and cause it to derail because they either love Uniden that much (which is creepy), Have a hand on the payroll, or are just drama lovers and need to stick their two sense. You can say it was me but, it was funny how I start mentioning real things and all of a sudden I am on the sites radar and threads started to close. I even got my first warning since being a member for derailing an already derailed thread.

I bolded the part of your post above that should give you pause for thought. If WE are the troublemakers here, then please explan (without using some far-fetched Uniden conspiracy theory) how YOU got the infraction? Shouldn't we have been warned multiple times or even temporarilty banned by now if what you said about us was even remotely true?

Ponder that and get back to us when you have come to terms with this obvious sign of reality. This is my last attempt to reason with you.

-AZ

 

[LIScanner101]

Jay,

So you buy something first and THEN check afterwards to see if a feature listed on the box or in the print ad are really there? And what if they aren't? You just shrug your shoulders and say "oh well, too bad"? That says a lot more about you than I wanted to know.

Just because YOU don't care if the Analyze app isn't there it doesn't mean that nobody ELSE does.

Just because YOU don't care that Q1 is basically gone, the Siren app is not ready and now even UNIDEN doesn't know when it will be ready doesn't mean that nobody ELSE cares.

That simple lesson seems lost on you and your cronies. You know, the ones who have spent page after page doing everything possible to avoid admitting the scanners aren't want they were expecting when they opened the box.

BTW - it says a lot about you and your buddy when you consider cognitive dissonance to be a big word.

 

[WILSON43]

"BTW - it says a lot about you and your buddy when you consider cognitive dissonance to be a big word."

LOL

 

[Dafe1er]

I made an analogy earlier but you must have missed it in the red mist. I paid for a new pickup truck with navigation and media connectivity to my phone. I don't have media connectivity to my phone with this version of the software in the nav console. By your line of thinking, I should be all over the Ford forums, thrashing about and screaming bloody blue murder. Right?

Actually, this is fixable on your own accord. You could take the time to go to the Ford forums and find the software to download and install yourself. Free of Charge.

Unfortunately, we have to WAIT for Uniden to release their software that has not been developed yet.

So, truthfully your "analogy" Bites!

 

[LIScanner101]

As I read thorugh this thread, and the response from Paul, I gazed over to my HP-1 units and was reminded of issues occurring with those units where firmware fixes were promised and never delivered.

The same issued transferred to the new units, as was well documented in these forums.

So, I guess the HP-1 is old news, and we will probably never see a firmware update again for those radios.
Shame.

I wonder of this fate is in store for the 436 and 536 down the road....?

Hopefully not but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

And there will be two camps that result from it: those that are going to be openly upset, and those that f

 

[Dafe1er]

This is my last attempt to reason with you.

-AZ

Somehow, I think you will break this promise! Your track record in the thread shows it.

 

[LIScanner101]

As I read thorugh this thread, and the response from Paul, I gazed over to my HP-1 units and was reminded of issues occurring with those units where firmware fixes were promised and never delivered.

The same issued transferred to the new units, as was well documented in these forums.

So, I guess the HP-1 is old news, and we will probably never see a firmware update again for those radios.
Shame.

I wonder of this fate is in store for the 436 and 536 down the road....?

Hopefully not but I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

And there will be two camps that result from it: those that are going to be openly upset, and those that for whatever motivates them will never blink and suck it up.

Sad really.