Let's try this area for the 536 App discussion plus other random thoughts

[JamesO]

Our developers are working diligently, but have had more challenges than expected in adjusting the firmware in the scanner, in the WiFi module, and in the iPhone codebase itself. At such time as I have more information, I'll post it in the main forum. At this time, I am no longer following this thread (s/n ratio has become miniscule).

Paul,

Thanks for the update, I think this is really what most wanted to know. Appears that it is a work in progress and there are unfortunately many or almost too many variables to deal with with the hardware/software/firmware combination, but at least it is a work in progress.

I assume it is 2 steps forward, 1 step back and at times even 1 step forward and 3 back!

I fully understand how these projects can take on a life of their own.

Really do appreciate your dropping in here and at least offering an update.

Agree that best to keep progress updates in the main forum as this is where most members will expect to follow this info.

Keep up the effort, many of us are an anxiously and some patiently waiting.

 

[NWI_Scanner_Guy]

I second what JamesO said.

At least we know they are working on everything. May take longer than some hoped for, but I'm sure progress, however slow, is being made. Thanks UPMan.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I437P using Tapatalk

 

[AZScanner]

So... Paul pretty much said what I already knew he'd say, if he chose to say anything at all:

1. It's being worked on as we speak
2. It's not yet ready.
3. There isn't an ETA yet as to when it will be released.
4. He will update us on the status of the app as soon as he has an update to provide.

I must be psychic! :roll:

And before you start in on me Liquid Pandora, know this: The ancient pyramids were actually a mistake, a falling tree does make a sound in the woods, not all owls are wise and 15 minutes could save you 15% on car insurance. So there.

I'm AZScanner, and I approve this message.

-AZ

 

[WILSON43]

So based on what Paul said, any prospective purchasers of these scanners should hold off until ????

I know I will until there is definite information posted that these items, (Sensitivity especially) has been addressed.

Not great for their bottom line if folks aint buying 'em, but so be it...

 

[AZScanner]

So based on what Paul said, any prospective purchasers of these scanners should hold off until ????

I know I will until there is definite information posted that these items, (Sensitivity especially) has been addressed.

Not great for their bottom line if folks aint buying 'em, but so be it...

If the app not being ready yet (or the bugs and such still being worked on via firmware) is a dealbreaker, then yes, it makes sense to wait.

If on the other hand, those things aren't a dealbreaker for you and you're willing to wait on certain fixes and/or the app, while playing with the otherwise excellent scanner, then there's no reason to wait.

I think either option makes sense, depending on the needs of the purchaser. My point of contention isn't with those folks at all. What turned this thread into a circus was (as usual) the same handful of Uniden malcontents who think that the louder they yell and scream about {insert real or imaginary issue with the x36 scanners here}, the more people they can assemble into a virtual online mob to make Paul's life miserable, which only delays real fixes and upgrades for the rest of us who aren't completely obsessed with rubbing Paul's nose in every single little thing that we find or think we find.

I'll say it again - let's see THEM design a better scanner. It's real easy to run a mouth but to actually create a product like these scanners is not so easy. I'd LOOOOOOOOVE to see them try. That'd be the friggin' day.

-AZ

 

[Jay911]

What turned this thread into a circus was (as usual) the same handful of Uniden malcontents who think that the louder they yell and scream about {insert real or imaginary issue with the x36 scanners here}, the more people they can assemble into a virtual online mob to make Paul's life miserable, which only delays real fixes and upgrades for the rest of us who aren't completely obsessed with rubbing Paul's nose in every single little thing that we find or think we find.

I have an idea. For every item they ***** about being a "disaster" on these radios, let's post one item that is an improvement/works well (or REALLY well)/is a great thing to have. We'll see who runs out of things to mention first. :lol:

 

[JamesO]

So based on what Paul said, any prospective purchasers of these scanners should hold off until ????.

Here is the bottom line, the App and any other firmware updates are not a requirement for the scanner to operate.

There may be a few bugs in the current version firmware, however, I am not convinced that these cause the product to not function properly.

Any future firmware updates will hopefully add features, stabilize the platform and may even improve performance. The App is not a requirement to operate the product and ONLY pertains to the 536HP.

So you may want to consider a 436HP or just go ahead a purchase a 536HP. Waiting will not change the basic platform that you will receive.

If you have a current scanner that meets your local requirements, then by all means you can wait, but there is a learning curve on these platforms and there are likely new features you can start to figure out and enjoy while you patiently wait for future firmware updates and the App release.

Being an early adopter means you need to be patient and wait for updates and new features.

 

[Dafe1er]

If the app not being ready yet (or the bugs and such still being worked on via firmware) is a dealbreaker, then yes, it makes sense to wait.

If on the other hand, those things aren't a dealbreaker for you and you're willing to wait on certain fixes and/or the app, while playing with the otherwise excellent scanner, then there's no reason to wait.

I think either option makes sense, depending on the needs of the purchaser. My point of contention isn't with those folks at all. What turned this thread into a circus was (as usual) the same handful of Uniden malcontents who think that the louder they yell and scream about {insert real or imaginary issue with the x36 scanners here}, the more people they can assemble into a virtual online mob to make Paul's life miserable, which only delays real fixes and upgrades for the rest of us who aren't completely obsessed with rubbing Paul's nose in every single little thing that we find or think we find.

I'll say it again - let's see THEM design a better scanner. It's real easy to run a mouth but to actually create a product like these scanners is not so easy. I'd LOOOOOOOOVE to see them try. That'd be the friggin' day.

-AZ

Yet, you and the SAME old party poppers keep sticking your two sense in. Where is your factual information. What have you contributed to this discussion (other than more BS)?

Again, my posting is not about rubbing Paul's face in dirt. It is about the way Uniden has handled everything since first releasing information on the scanners. You would know this if you read my very first posting.

You and the others have gone to GREAT lengths to try and discredit me and others and even got your way of having everything App related thread either closed and or moved to this tavern section. Even when presented with factual information!

Why not get off the discussion I opened and go do something more productive. It is not just me reading this and talking about the way they are handling things.

There are plenty of folk's who are just getting these scanners thinking an App is going to be out sometime in the next week with NO KNOWLEDGE of the App being worked on still. Let's hope they find their way here at some point in the future and post about how unhappy they are. It is not like dealers are telling people to go to the RR to get the help they are going to need. There not even telling them to go to the Uniden Community site for it either.

Maybe Uniden can do another YouTube Video and tell people that way?

I have an idea. For every item they ***** about being a "disaster" on these radios, let's post one item that is an improvement/works well (or REALLY well)/is a great thing to have. We'll see who runs out of things to mention first. :lol:

See? This is USELESS!

I get a warning for taking a App thread off track (which others did also) and yet you keep coming on here with 100% crap to talk about.

I am beginning to think you select few either work for Uinden in some way or are just drama lovers.

 

[AZScanner]

I have an idea. For every item they ***** about being a "disaster" on these radios, let's post one item that is an improvement/works well (or REALLY well)/is a great thing to have. We'll see who runs out of things to mention first. :lol:

I have an even better idea. I say we deal with those individuals the same way you deal with a two year old having a temper tantrum in their room: So long as they stay in their room (AKA the tavern), simply ignore the screaming and yelling until they tire themselves out and finally shut up. As a father of 4 (or possibly 5 - the new Mrs. has been showing signs) and a longtime usenet surfer (remember Bill Cheek and John Mackey on rec.radio.scanner? Me too! ) I can tell you this works like a charm with both little kids and little internet trolls. It's really the only way to deal with them.

-AZ

 

[AZScanner]

Yet, you and the SAME old party poppers keep sticking your two sense in. Where is your factual information. What have you contributed to this discussion (other than more BS)?

Uh, this, for starters:

As for the folks complaining: In their defense, a word or two from Uniden, even just to say that "nothing's changed, we're still working to deliver the app as soon as possible" might not be a bad idea. But does that really need to be said at this point? Does anyone here think Paul is asleep at the wheel, the app has been ready all this time and he just didn't notice? No, of course not. We all know and understand that the app will be released as soon as it's ready. That's probably why Uniden/Paul hasn't chimed in to say anything. Unless they come out and say "Ha ha, April Fools, there's no app and never will be" then I don't think anyone's been swindled out of anything other than the minor inconvenience of waiting for the app.

But whatever. You keep believing whatever you want. That's what this sub-forum is for. It's your own special place to complain all you want. Enjoy!

-AZ

 

[LIScanner101]

It's amusing that some on here are actually claiming smugly (and somewhat childishly) that the "malcontents" and the "haters" have been claiming that Uniden was NOT working on the severely delayed app. I for one never said that. What was being posted was that there was an information void in which nobody knew if the app would be ready by the end of Q1. Now, we know that it isn't. That may not be very comforting, but at least it's something.

However, the cheerleaders are missing something here. Uniden (UPMan) did not say WHEN it would be ready. Now that the hard deadline has been publicly stated by Uniden as NOT happening - and by stating that the development has been "delayed" - they gave themselves a hell of an out. Now, there is NO hard deadline anymore, and unless Uniden announces one soon, it's now become a wide-open, your guess is as good as mine scenario.

It was posted on here that you don't need the app to use the scanner and anyone with half a brain would agree with that (even The Uniden Following). But you could make that sophomoric statement about almost anything. You don't need a radio to drive a car, right? But that's not the point. Some people don't listen to the radio but many do.

By making this statement today, Uniden just alienated that many more potential customers of the new scanner due to this new PUBLICLY PROCLAIMED uncertainty, and now those fence-sitters will just wait it out until Whistler arrives on the scenes.

 

[Dafe1er]

Uh, this, for starters:



But whatever. You keep believing whatever you want. That's what this sub-forum is for. It's your own special place to complain all you want. Enjoy!

-AZ

Funny YOU think that is factual and contributing to the thread.

I see it as your way of making backhanded comments to other members for questioning legitimate things posted.

 

[LIScanner101]

Wait - "early adopter"!

So, if an RR member buys an x36HP he/she is an "early adopter",

But if Joe Blow down the street does the same thing he is - what, exactly?

Do you know what he is? I'll tell you.

He's a CONSUMER.

That's right folks.

Stop living in your RR bubble. Not every person who bought this scanner knows about this site.

 

[Jay911]

I don't work for Uniden. I work for a major Canadian city, and an unrelated but local regional fire/rescue service.

I am smart enough to know that there was never any guarantee that the Siren app would be released simultaneously with the radio. There was a general statement that it would be available in the first quarter of 2014, which is about to have elapsed. I am also smart enough to know that deadlines slip; it's a fact of life. I am also smart enough to know that the radio works fine without the app. The overwhelming majority of the "problems" that people like yourself are ranting and raging and foaming at the mouth over are either invented in your own minds (some from "making mountains out of molehills" as the saying goes - in other words, taking an extremely minor issue and making it an unfathomable failure that "I'll have to have my lawyer look into") or caused by not using the radios properly, or expecting them to do something they're not capable of.

I'm a huge fan of the Analyze function on my HP1 radios and on computers via programs like Unitrunker and PRO96COM. I am mildly miffed by the fact that the x36 units shipped without functional Analyze modes. I, however, am not screaming and whining and crying all over an Internet forum about it, or virtually lighting torches and picking up pitchforks to demand that Uniden pay me back for "a feature I paid good money for" (which isn't true - I paid for the scanner, not one particular feature). I am sitting here waiting patiently for Analyze to be enabled, trying to be optimistic that the longer the code remains in test status, the better it potentially can be when it finally gets released to production. I'm not throwing a tantrum like an infant and demanding that justice be done, and making up conspiracy theories about Uniden being in collusion with RR, or accusing them of "false advertising".

I liken the delivery of my 436 to the delivery of the brand new truck I picked up in October, which doesn't sync properly with my phone. Am I returning my truck? Picketing the Ford dealer? Threatening to "have my lawyer check" what my options are? No. I'm dealing with it and hoping that the next update of Sync will work with the Galaxy 4 (and that there will be an update before I move on to a G5).

All you clowns who insist on being hysterical about everything from how the display on the radio looks to whether or not a support application has been released are making the RadioReference Forums nigh-unbearable for the rest of us who are more sensible and level-headed. Plus, you're making RR look even worse than the rap it gets now from other corners of the Internet. You need to learn to take a breath.. go outside.. and take a few moments where you're not slobbering all over your keyboard about what all Uniden - or anyone else - has done wrong. It'll do you, us, Paul Opitz, and everyone else involved, a whole ton of good.

 

[LIScanner101]

Is any x36HP owner on this thread who bought this scanner expecting to be able to use the Siren app OK with waiting until Q4, or maybe even 2015?

How does that grab you? Are you fine with that?

 

[AZScanner]

Funny YOU think that is factual and contributing to the thread.

I see it as your way of making backhanded comments to other members for questioning legitimate things posted.

Well one man's fact is another man's insult, I suppose. It's all perspective.

I'm just watching this thread to see if it results in an app, a press conference, a youtube video or whatever you say you want Paul/Uniden to do for you next. He DID put a post up in this thread, which to be honest was more of a reaction than I thought you'd get from him. Maybe if you keep at it, you'll get what you want.

-AZ

 

[AZScanner]

All you clowns who insist on being hysterical about everything from how the display on the radio looks to whether or not a support application has been released are making the RadioReference Forums nigh-unbearable for the rest of us who are more sensible and level-headed. Plus, you're making RR look even worse than the rap it gets now from other corners of the Internet. You need to learn to take a breath.. go outside.. and take a few moments where you're not slobbering all over your keyboard about what all Uniden - or anyone else - has done wrong. It'll do you, us, Paul Opitz, and everyone else involved, a whole ton of good.

I want to print this post out in fancy lettering, frame it, and send it to Paul for his office.

-AZ

 

[LIScanner101]

To the great Uniden Following:

If you are so upset about what's being posted here in the Uniden TAVERN then why are you here? I've asked this question before and none of The Following have ever answered.

Why are you Followers watching "bad press"?

Jay911, I assume you speak for AZScanner, right? Well, according to a recent post he said my presence here doesn't bother him, yet he seems extremely bent out of shape at all of these TAVERN posts. Yes, I still have to suffer through his simplistic rants when he's quoted.

So, why don't you just GO AWAY and continue to post about the wonderful success you are having with your scanner?

 

[JoeyC]

Is any x36HP owner on this thread who bought this scanner expecting to be able to use the Siren app OK with waiting until Q4, or maybe even 2015?

How does that grab you? Are you fine with that?

I'm fine with that...

 

[Dafe1er]

I don't work for Uniden. I work for a major Canadian city, and an unrelated but local regional fire/rescue service.

I am smart enough to know that there was never any guarantee that the Siren app would be released simultaneously with the radio. There was a general statement that it would be available in the first quarter of 2014, which is about to have elapsed. I am also smart enough to know that deadlines slip; it's a fact of life. I am also smart enough to know that the radio works fine without the app. The overwhelming majority of the "problems" that people like yourself are ranting and raging and foaming at the mouth over are either invented in your own minds (some from "making mountains out of molehills" as the saying goes - in other words, taking an extremely minor issue and making it an unfathomable failure that "I'll have to have my lawyer look into") or caused by not using the radios properly, or expecting them to do something they're not capable of.

I'm a huge fan of the Analyze function on my HP1 radios and on computers via programs like Unitrunker and PRO96COM. I am mildly miffed by the fact that the x36 units shipped without functional Analyze modes. I, however, am not screaming and whining and crying all over an Internet forum about it, or virtually lighting torches and picking up pitchforks to demand that Uniden pay me back for "a feature I paid good money for" (which isn't true - I paid for the scanner, not one particular feature). I am sitting here waiting patiently for Analyze to be enabled, trying to be optimistic that the longer the code remains in test status, the better it potentially can be when it finally gets released to production. I'm not throwing a tantrum like an infant and demanding that justice be done, and making up conspiracy theories about Uniden being in collusion with RR, or accusing them of "false advertising".

I liken the delivery of my 436 to the delivery of the brand new truck I picked up in October, which doesn't sync properly with my phone. Am I returning my truck? Picketing the Ford dealer? Threatening to "have my lawyer check" what my options are? No. I'm dealing with it and hoping that the next update of Sync will work with the Galaxy 4 (and that there will be an update before I move on to a G5).

All you clowns who insist on being hysterical about everything from how the display on the radio looks to whether or not a support application has been released are making the RadioReference Forums nigh-unbearable for the rest of us who are more sensible and level-headed. Plus, you're making RR look even worse than the rap it gets now from other corners of the Internet. You need to learn to take a breath.. go outside.. and take a few moments where you're not slobbering all over your keyboard about what all Uniden - or anyone else - has done wrong. It'll do you, us, Paul Opitz, and everyone else involved, a whole ton of good.

Well, if you are so smart then why do you not understand they sold the scanners as having these features and never told anyone other then people in the RR they are not coming? Just before releasing them (might I ad) NOT even in the video or anything else for the PUBLIC'S EYE'S. I would have thought that any SMART company inventing things might make sure that BEFORE releasing things and information it is all 100% working or at least 80% working with update's to follow. Or maybe give their consumers more information than a few sentences that might lead to the App being delayed.

RR make's itself look bad by hiding in the background letting another company use them for profit. I nor do others make RR look bad at all. We simply have discussions on things we are concerned about and people like you and select others do not like it. You do not like it so much, but yet you keep coming back feeding the fire with 100% BS.