McLennan County Announces Digital Migration

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Tx DPS had a few talkgroups on TxWARN (2-30). Do they have any groups on this system or did they go back to VHF?
The TGs would remain and are not tied to a site. Of course if there is no site to affiliate with, they can't use them but they are used all the time down here.
 

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Everything that has been submitted to us is posted in the database now. I have updated a few things on the McLennan County page, but I would like to know what agencies remain on the analog Type II system, if anyone could relay that here. Also, is Beverly Hills still on the Wear Radio Service system? Looks pretty good now!

I am still moving folks off the 2b33 and over to the 0572, the 2b33 will remain up for another Year before being decommissioned. Beverly Hills has been on the 2b33 for several years, and I just moved them on to the 0572 last week. None of their radios have the 6c24 system.
 

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The TGs would remain and are not tied to a site. Of course if there is no site to affiliate with, they can't use them but they are used all the time down here.

I was wondering if DPS Waco is on Waco P25 or if they are using VHF exclusively in Waco, now that TxWARN 2-30 is gone.
 

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I was wondering if DPS Waco is on Waco P25 or if they are using VHF exclusively in Waco, now that TxWARN 2-30 is gone.

I've not heard from Waco DPS yet, I have 12 DPS Helocopter radios in my inventory (mostely out of the Austin area), waiting for them to send the radio code plugs to me so I can add our new system to them.
I assume DPS Waco is still using VHF. I don't monitor VHF very much.
 

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I am still moving folks off the 2b33 and over to the 0572, the 2b33 will remain up for another Year before being decommissioned. Beverly Hills has been on the 2b33 for several years, and I just moved them on to the 0572 last week. None of their radios have the 6c24 system.

Thanks for the quick update Larry! It appears that you have it all under control up there!
 

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I've not heard from Waco DPS yet, I have 12 DPS Helocopter radios in my inventory (mostely out of the Austin area), waiting for them to send the radio code plugs to me so I can add our new system to them.
I assume DPS Waco is still using VHF. I don't monitor VHF very much.

Larry,

Do you know if the Lacy-Lakview / TSTC VHF P25 TRS system will ever be fixed and if so, will it be connected to the Waco Core?
 

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BH Still Puzzles Me

I am still moving folks off the 2b33 and over to the 0572, the 2b33 will remain up for another Year before being decommissioned. Beverly Hills has been on the 2b33 for several years, and I just moved them on to the 0572 last week. None of their radios have the 6c24 system.

I really don't understand the Beverly Hills situation. First of all, there are two channels listed under Wear Radio for BH PD. But, the Waco Public Safety only shows one.

So, here is what I don't understand. Does Beverly Hills have an odd duck Motorola system that stands alone and is patched into the new system? I know they used to be on the former Waco/McClennan County analog trunking system.

When I've tried to download BH PD from the Wear Radio system on the RR DB, it never works. Are they working with an antiquated system with old radios?
 

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I really don't understand the Beverly Hills situation. First of all, there are two channels listed under Wear Radio for BH PD. But, the Waco Public Safety only shows one.

So, here is what I don't understand. Does Beverly Hills have an odd duck Motorola system that stands alone and is patched into the new system? I know they used to be on the former Waco/McClennan County analog trunking system.

When I've tried to download BH PD from the Wear Radio system on the RR DB, it never works. Are they working with an antiquated system with old radios?

M_T I don't have any information on the LacyLakeview ot TSTC VHF other than what is posted here.

Ensnared "My Friend" Beverly Hills only has the 0572 system programmed in their Suscribers (And I hope they sound better) as I retuned their radios today. They are not patched to any other system and operate exclusively on BHPD BHFD BHPW Talkgroups, and they do have access to some WPD and WFD Talkgroups.

Sorry for the late reply, I am still dealing with adjusting suscriber volume levers and re tuning the older units that came off the 2b33 system. P-25 systems frequency tolerances are tighter, so a radio that was working fine on a 25 khz Analog system may not work as well on a 12.5 khz digital system. Yes, a full reprogram and re tune is being conducted right now.
 

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BH Clarification

I now understand that BH PD & FD operate exclusively on the 572 ID system. If this is the case, then 4E10 & 6C24 (Wear Radio) are inactive? The former system has never had any talk groups added. If these systems are inactive, then I feel the RR DB should reflect such. Here are the links:

Wear Radio Service (Moody) Trunking System, Moody, Texas - Scanner Frequencies

Wear Radio Service (Waco Motorola) Trunking System, Waco, Texas - Scanner Frequencies

By the way, the new Waco Public Safety is sounding great.
 
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6c24

I now understand that BH PD & FD operate exclusively on the 572 ID system. If this is the case, then 4E10 & 6C24 (Wear Radio) are inactive? The former system has never had any talk groups added. If these systems are inactive, then I feel the RR DB should reflect such. Here are the links:

Wear Radio Service (Moody) Trunking System, Moody, Texas - Scanner Frequencies

Wear Radio Service (Waco Motorola) Trunking System, Waco, Texas - Scanner Frequencies

By the way, the new Waco Public Safety is sounding great.

The 6c24 is active, but we (the City) only have 3 talkgroups on there for backup of WPD only.
 

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PSR 500 Needs Hearing Aid

Is 6c24 still Type IIi Hybrid or is it Type II only now?

Yes, I don't know why I cannot hear this system. However, today, I will make an effort to get this system on Unitrunker to see if I can find the active CC. I will be loading all of the system frequencies. Since 6c24 is still active, I should be able to hear it.

As I've said, this one has me scratching my head. I've heard of custom trunking tables, but I've been quite unsuccessful at getting this radio system to trunk. In the distant past, I used to have BH's PD programmed. It would show a completely different DEC than the former analog trunking used in this county.

Please, understand, this is not a matter of hearing BH. This is entirely related to knowing how to get a system to work on my PSR 500

My goal is to get the McLennan county RR DB more accurate since some of the tones are missing. Also, I believe some of the information is in need of updating.
 
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Larry,

Do you know if the Lacy-Lakview / TSTC VHF P25 TRS system will ever be fixed and if so, will it be connected to the Waco Core?

Today, I went on a Mexia, Texas Peach sojourn. For some of you Mexia Peach virgins, you would not understand unless you've tried one. They put Georgia, LA, California, & Oklahoma peaches to shame. Today, I learned about "cling" & "freestone" peaches.

When I was returning to Waco on highway 84, I was picking up LLV 25 to 30 miles east of Waco. It was coming in loud and clear. I looked at the CC and it was what was shown in red.

I started picking up Waco Public Safety around 15 miles east of town.

When I reached 11 miles east of Waco, I heard Gatesville PD come up. To me, that is an astonishing distance.

Now, I will try to put in the operating frequencies for the Wear Radio, BH to see what surfaces.
 

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Unitrunker?

Well, I loaded the trunking information for Wear Radio. I tried running Unitrunker to no avail. I've been able to make this work on the Waco/McLennan County, but not now. I must review the instructions once again. Oh well. This will give me something else to learn this summer. Still, with the information loaded in the RR DB, it is not working at all. I hear the CC and it is 858.1625.
 

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Wear Radio

The Freq I have for the 6c24 in Waco are
856.1625
857.1625
858.1625
859.1625

There may be more as I am only interested in the Control channels.
 

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6c24

I'm sorry, my brain is fried. Wear is only keeping the 6c24 up because of a contanct with Waco for backup radio talkgroups. e01, e02, and e03. Good luck hearing anything here, but I have heard rumors that some PD use these as back channels. I don't monitor these, if you hear inthing interssting I would be interested. I think everything else has been moved to Motortubo.
 

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I'm sorry, my brain is fried. Wear is only keeping the 6c24 up because of a contanct with Waco for backup radio talkgroups. e01, e02, and e03. Good luck hearing anything here, but I have heard rumors that some PD use these as back channels. I don't monitor these, if you hear inthing interssting I would be interested. I think everything else has been moved to Motortubo.

Yes, I thought something was amiss. Beverly Hills, oddly enough, has some of the highest crime rates in this area. Let's just say I keep my windows rolled up while passing through. I don't get off Valley Mills at night. I recall there being some odd things on this system. I believe you might be spot-on with this being Motortubo.

856.1625 silent
857.1625 intermittent CC sounds, though different from the regular MOT CC sounds, bursts are around 1/2 second in duration
859.1625 sounds like a regular MOT CC
859.1625 silent
860.1625 similar sound as MOT CC, then goes into short burst mode of 1/2 second time intervals. Then, it will go back to the longer MOT CC sound. This frequency was not one you listed, but it is listed in the RR DB.

Since I have my radio parked on one frequency at a time in analyze mode, the CC could be shifting to the other one, I suppose. This is why I need to run Unitrunker. I might have to try to hear it once again; however, if you what you are saying is correct about this being Motortubo, then this makes perfect sense.

I don't think Unitrunker works on Motortubo. But, I could be wrong.

Yes, this is not a normal little beast. So, should there ever be a scanner that picks up Motortubo, I will be adding BH to the lineup. God help them. They need plenty of back channels. Some time back, I heard a major saturation of cops, some unmarked, working near the HEB near Baylor campus along with the HEB on Valley Mills. Baylor students were being robbed. Let's bring in the FBI and Homeland Security.

Crooks need a very good lawyer if they violate the sanctity of a Baylor Student. Oh, we can't have their feathers ruffled here. If you did not know it, Baylor calls the shots in Waco. I believe this is why Sonny's closed (our former fully-nude dance club). I was listening to TxWarn P25 talk groups when this establishment went down. They targeted the location for drug sales.

There is a golden rule in Waco. You can do almost anything you want here as long as you keep your mouth shut & not broadcast things. We have remote locations for our adult clubs. One of these has a back street entrance. No, I don't frequent these clip joints. Don't like being hustled. For example, the local head shop has been in operation for many years. After they put an ad on the television, they were busted by the DEA shortly afterward.

I'm quite certain this is one of the main reasons Baylor selected an interstate location for their new stadium. Mark my words, there is going to be a gigantic LED sign facing IH35 to declare their presence, "Jerusalem On The Brazos" as they say.
 
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Yes, this is not a normal little beast. So, should there ever be a scanner that picks up Motortubo, I will be adding BH to the lineup. God help them.

You may have mis-understood me. BH is only using the 0572 now with three talkgroups BHPD BHFD BHPW. All the other 6c24 users (Tow trucks, Cabs, etc) have moved to CTS (aka Wear Radio) MotoTubro system. Our radios can't do MoroTubro, amd MotoTubro Radios can't do P-25.
 

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Baylor UHF

Although I see where Baylor has reportedly joined the Waco Public Safety P25 trunking system, I have not heard the raw UHF Baylor frequencies in some time. To me, this is like Beverly Hills having a separate MOT system that is tied to Waco Public Safety. I want to hear all of the frequencies & talk groups being utilized. Has anyone heard Baylor PD keying up on their former UHF frequencies?
 

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Although I see where Baylor has reportedly joined the Waco Public Safety P25 trunking system, I have not heard the raw UHF Baylor frequencies in some time. To me, this is like Beverly Hills having a separate MOT system that is tied to Waco Public Safety. I want to hear all of the frequencies & talk groups being utilized. Has anyone heard Baylor PD keying up on their former UHF frequencies?

Baylor has their own 400 tsy (May be Mototurbo now) and there is no connection (patch) to Waco. Baylor 800 mhz is strictly programmed to WPD TG's and they have not have activated the Bayler TG on the 0572.

PS I have a USB and HDMI port in my Skull. Makes life easier.
 
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