Mid-Atlantic (and beyond) MilAir 2025

[Mark]

Overnight 0100am local COSMIC-41 with MAINE-91 #58-0021 on Huntress 364.200.
Haven't heard that freq used in long time.. Was trying to coordinate with ZNY on 133.975.
Maine-91 just came South at FL-20k and did U-turn near DC and went back to Maine.
Cosmic-41 did rtb A/C at 0120 local.

 

[RaleighGuy]

Look for VP trip to Germany soon, nothing announced yet but VP equipment flights have been headed that way for a week now , today a regular VP equipment flight went to Binsfeld, GERMANY. Possible stop in India as well.

And finally announced... Italy and India April 18-24

 

[Tech792]

Overnight 0100am local COSMIC-41 with MAINE-91 #58-0021 on Huntress 364.200.
Haven't heard that freq used in long time.. Was trying to coordinate with ZNY on 133.975.
Maine-91 just came South at FL-20k and did U-turn near DC and went back to Maine.
Cosmic-41 did rtb A/C at 0120 local.

I heard this also but was half asleep. Didn't know if it was a real-world scramble or training. Thinking it was more nigh-time training.

 

[RaleighGuy]

And finally announced... Italy and India April 18-24

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Looks like VP headed to Pratica di Mare Air Base (ICAO: LIRE) a military airport of the Italian Air Force, located in Pomezia, Lazio, southwest of Rome on the 18th.

 

[RichardKramer]

Rich

Have you ever heard the secondary UHF or the VHF freqs used at the Gap?

I only heard 134.100 used for commercial/military ac for Dover AFB CP. Never heard anything on others.

 

[RichardKramer]

@1045L UH-60 1820990 18-20990 over the house on KRDG 119.900 hdg W, dep 125.150.
VV4E620 170148 Agusta AW-119 Koala, dep Philly NE hdg W; now W of Gettysburg.
Weak comms on 317.325; don't have anybody listed for that one.
Earlier there was an unid ac on R5802 Kiowa range 233.450.

 

[RichardKramer]

Overnight 0100am local COSMIC-41 with MAINE-91 #58-0021 on Huntress 364.200.
Haven't heard that freq used in long time.. Was trying to coordinate with ZNY on 133.975.
Maine-91 just came South at FL-20k and did U-turn near DC and went back to Maine.
Cosmic-41 did rtb A/C at 0120 local.

133.975 ZDC Sec4 Pinion Hi; UHF 307.025.

 

[RichardKramer]

@1110L BLKJK33 CH-46 Sea Knight 07-08033 hdg SW towards KRDG airspace SW of Allentown.
@1117L 08033/KRDG 125.150 says he's heading to Lancaster KLNS.
Looks like the Koala landed at Hagerstown.

 

[AirScan]

Overnight 0100am local COSMIC-41 with MAINE-91 #58-0021 on Huntress 364.200.

Here are the ATC comms for the complete flight. Departed at 23:59 and landed at 01:41 EDT.

COSMIC 41 LiveATC Audio

Mentions vectors to a TOI but I can't tell if it was real world or training ?

 

[TerryPavlick]

1130 EDT 123.225 SCAN 05 AND SCAN 39 working air air on a track line across the north side of Delaware Bay

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[apex31]

Here are the ATC comms for the complete flight. Departed at 23:59 and landed at 01:41 EDT.

COSMIC 41 LiveATC Audio

Mentions vectors to a TOI but I can't tell if it was real world or training ?

COSMICs and MAINE ran a very similar mission maybe ~6 weeks ago but it was around 1400est. They used an almost identical AR route, then MAINE cut the chicks loose near PAX areas and they continued working target intercepts.

 

[Mark]

1130 EDT 123.225 SCAN 05 AND SCAN 39 working air air on a track line across the north side of Delaware Bay

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SCAN-05 up on Pax Navy W-636 320.450 says they cannot reach GK on 312.200

Now on ZNY 133.500 says trying to get to W-386 but may have to stay West of W-107.
SCAN-05 now on GK 118.125

 

[Mark]

Here are the ATC comms for the complete flight. Departed at 23:59 and landed at 01:41 EDT.

COSMIC 41 LiveATC Audio

Mentions vectors to a TOI but I can't tell if it was real world or training ?

Short hop am sure it was training though did not see any usual practice CAP Cessnas up at that time.
Amazing how late at night how many of those Ctr freqs are not even monitored.
Sure did a lot of No Joy freq hopping

 

[RaleighGuy]

Italian PM arrived ADW just a day before VP heads top Italy

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[Mark]

Couple McGuire KC-46's working up in Canada just North of CFB Bagotville.
Assume tanking local Hornets.

 

[TerryPavlick]

Here are the ATC comms for the complete flight. Departed at 23:59 and landed at 01:41 EDT.

COSMIC 41 LiveATC Audio

Mentions vectors to a TOI but I can't tell if it was real world or training ?

Sounded like training to me - I doubt an alert launch would wait for a commercial aircraft to land.

Center even gave the tanker a freq of 132.240 duh

Sounds like the TOI was a point in space - they were directed to that point - orbit and then returned.

 

[jsoergel]

Weak comms on 317.325; don't have anybody listed for that one.

Might have been the UAE C-17s returning eastbound, that’s what they used on Sunday.

 

[TerryPavlick]

Short hop am sure it was training though did not see any usual practice CAP Cessnas up at that time.
Amazing how late at night how many of those Ctr freqs are not even monitored.
Sure did a lot of No Joy freq hopping

Part of the problem could be which antenna they were using for ATC. May have been using an antenna that was not optimal for their location related to the RCAG sites.

 

[TerryPavlick]

Overnight 0100am local COSMIC-41 with MAINE-91 #58-0021 on Huntress 364.200.
Haven't heard that freq used in long time.. Was trying to coordinate with ZNY on 133.975.
Maine-91 just came South at FL-20k and did U-turn near DC and went back to Maine.
Cosmic-41 did rtb A/C at 0120 local.

Technically 364.200 used to be known as NORAD Air Intercept Control Common or AICC.
Could be that 260.900 / 228.900 are more "inland use" while 364.200 is more over the ocean use.

Years ago - 364.200 was very active with PARROT checks and the like ..... maybe this activity has been moved over to Satcom.

n NORAD terminology, "parrot check" refers to a specific procedure involving aircraft transponders, specifically the calibration performance monitoring equipment (CPME) or "parrot" transponders. These transponders are used to ensure the accuracy and reliability of the radar systems used for air defense and tracking.

 

[TerryPavlick]

Short hop am sure it was training though did not see any usual practice CAP Cessnas up at that time.
Amazing how late at night how many of those Ctr freqs are not even monitored.
Sure did a lot of No Joy freq hopping

I looked up the assigned squawk code they used... 7570 - which matches as expected.

7501–7577

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