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Looks like everyone is ready to get out of DC for the weekend, POTUS heading south to Mar A Largo and VP going to Ohio. Looks like VP is also going to Youngstown/ East Palestine, OH on the 3rd, possibly for the 2nd anniversary of train derailment there.


 

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OT: Looks like this evening a Canforce tanker CFC3328 A-310 #15004 dragged some CF/18's from Trenton to Wyoming/Colo area
and cut them loose.. Prob headed to Vegas I mean Nellis AFB.. Maybe time for a Red Flag exercise?
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Seems RAF Typhoons did Southern route via Lajes,Bermuda,Eglin stop.
 
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Looks like everyone is ready to get out of DC for the weekend, POTUS heading south to Mar A Largo and VP going to Ohio. Looks like VP is also going to Youngstown/ East Palestine, OH on the 3rd, possibly for the 2nd anniversary of train derailment there.



POTUS schedule...

5:15PM THE PRESIDENT departs Joint Base Andrews en route Palm Beach International Airport
7:20PM THE PRESIDENT arrives at Palm Beach International Airport
7:35PM THE PRESIDENT departs Palm Beach International Airport en route Mar-a-Lago
7:50PM THE PRESIDENT arrives at Mar-a-Lago
 

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O.T. Posted on another list

0617z 31 Jan 25

11175.0 was active at 0010z 30 Jan 25 with HOUSE TOP broadcasting their daily new UTC day communication test count. USSTRATCOM CP. Normal, except HOUSE TOP was their 29 Jan 25 callword. No follow up/revision heard.

1616z IMPURITY (E6B; believed to be BIDE 47 ex TINKER) called ARMY ANT (NCS HFGCS); but, within seconds ARMY ANT became active with a 48-character EAM "3Z36BX."

1621z IMPURITY called and raised ARMY ANT and entered the net.

1625z immediately after completing the challenge process IMPURITY called BLACK BODY with no response. This immediately called to mind the 29 Jan 25 UNANIMOUS numerous calls to WESSON OIL.

1636z ARMY ANT broadcast a 30 character EAM 3ZPO3G.

1713z IMPURITY called BACK BODY with no response. Within 15 minutes of the call to BLACK BODY, IMPURITY/BIDE 47 entered the first of two tight racetrack orbits near Santa Fe, New Mexico and Albuquerque, NM. Very similar to the 29 Jan 25 activity of UNANIMOUS except the 29 Jan activity was in the midwest (which had weather on 30 Jan 25.) His racetrack orbits can be followed on ADSB mapping sites.

2158z IMPURITY called BLACK BODY. BLACK BODY (good levels; processed sounding audio) eventually called and raised IMPURITY for exchange of signal checks and gone. (29 Jan 25 calls to WESSON OIL eventually produced a response from HOUSE TOP, USSTRATCOM.)

2214z IMPURITY called ARMY ANT with no known response. At this time BIDE 47 was descending toward TINKER. Exiting the net (if done) was not heard on 11175.0.

The above loggings ignore the very active traffic activity of ARMY ANT beginning at 1236z.
 

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Much of the early news reporting was complicated by the reporters not understanding that DCA airline and helo flights are on different freqs and they therefore left the impression that the helo pilot did not acknowledge the traffic instructions re the CRJ. He did.

A national newspaper missed that as recently as this morning. My guess even the first night was that he was looking at the wrong aircraft and thought he was safe. And new reporting consistently indicates he was at or near 400 feet instead of the necessary 200.

The transition from the Rwy 1 approach to the Rwy 33 approach, while quite legitimate and executed properly, is quite common in view of the winds. It does, however, mean that the decent is much closer to the eastern shore (Bolling). Nothing wrong with this, but in the case of the conditions in the previous two paragraphs it put the two aircraft in close proximity. It also requires a left turn on close final and that would explain why the CRJ was hit on the side and why the helo pilot couldn't see the very bright CRJ landing lights easily.

I'm quite familiar with flying over the area and everything about this is quite common except the altitude and location of the helo.
 

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Much of the early news reporting was complicated by the reporters not understanding that DCA airline and helo flights are on different freqs and they therefore left the impression that the helo pilot did not acknowledge the traffic instructions re the CRJ. He did.

A national newspaper missed that as recently as this morning. My guess even the first night was that he was looking at the wrong aircraft and thought he was safe. And new reporting consistently indicates he was at or near 400 feet instead of the necessary 200.

The transition from the Rwy 1 approach to the Rwy 33 approach, while quite legitimate and executed properly, is quite common in view of the winds. It does, however, mean that the decent is much closer to the eastern shore (Bolling). Nothing wrong with this, but in the case of the conditions in the previous two paragraphs it put the two aircraft in close proximity. It also requires a left turn on close final and that would explain why the CRJ was hit on the side and why the helo pilot couldn't see the very bright CRJ landing lights easily.

I'm quite familiar with flying over the area and everything about this is quite common except the altitude and location of the helo.

Since the crash is civilian can we please keep it in the thread about the crash and leave this thread for military traffic. Thanks

 

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Sounds like DRAGO-51 flight coming North ZDC 236.825>Sea Isle 281.450.
Rainy day so maybe was someone else headed North. Mentioned arrival and seemed headed towards Boston perhaps.

Got a Reach-162 C-17 doing run to MHLM Honduras today.
 
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Since the crash is civilian can we please keep it in the thread about the crash and leave this thread for military traffic. Thanks

Agree. What is out now is pure speculation. Let's let the NTSB do a proper investigation.
 

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92-9000 AF1 wheels up 1744 ET

19-0018 SAM47 wheels up 1756 ET
Tomorrow new Sec State to Panama to read them the riot act.. Should be interesting.

OT: Yeah seeing some local news vids from NE Philly. Fires scenes scattered all over the area
from plane crash near Mall. :(
I take it that jet has Mexican Reg Apex?

Here comes US envoy who just departed from Venezuela meeting. Wonder how he made out. Venezuela refuses to take
back US deportees last I heard..SAM-968 is #02-0042 B737.
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