Mobile Relay Associates KNIG210 IG - how do they get away with it?

[109heavystatic]

Browsing around FCC ULS and found Mobile Relay Associates, out of Paramount CA, has EVERY SINGLE FREQUENCY LICENSED TO THEM. All that are Part 90 at least. To top it off, they have it listed in the continental US.

How to do they get away with this? Who are they paying off? They successfully threatened RadioReference enough to force them to shut down any info that was posted on the site. When I asked the owner of MRA how and why, he played it off as "I cannot discuss it" (obviously you can).

How is any of this even possible?

 

[MtnBiker2005]

Plus they have lots of FCC FRN numbers linking back to MRA.

FCC Grants MRA

FCC Grants for Mobile Relay Associates

nxdn-systems.blogspot.com

 

[mmckenna]

Browsing around FCC ULS and found Mobile Relay Associates, out of Paramount CA, has EVERY SINGLE FREQUENCY LICENSED TO THEM. All that are Part 90 at least. To top it off, they have it listed in the continental US.

How to do they get away with this? Who are they paying off? They successfully threatened RadioReference enough to force them to shut down any info that was posted on the site. When I asked the owner of MRA how and why, he played it off as "I cannot discuss it" (obviously you can).

How is any of this even possible?

Can you share the license?

It sounds like a demonstration license to me, which is perfectly leagal.

 

[tweiss3]

Can you share the license?

It sounds like a demonstration license to me, which is perfectly leagal.

Yep, demo license

ULS License - Industrial/Business Pool, Conventional License - KNIG210 - Mobile Relay Associates, LLC - Special Conditions

 

[MtnBiker2005]

the callsign is in the title of the thread.


FCC Callsign: KNIG210 (Mobile Relay Associates, LLC)
Radio Service:
IG: Industrial/Business Pool, Conventional
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=1627631
https://www.radioreference.com/db/fcc/callsign/KNIG210

 

[mmckenna]

Yep, that's a demonstration license.
A lot of radio shops/consultants have those licenses.
Look at the "AUTH TYPE" on the license page.

They are for short term testing/demonstration of radio equipment on a non-interference basis. They are not a "free for all" license that lets them do whatever they want. It's so they can set up a repeater at a potential customers location to show them how it works.

I had a shop do that for me back when we were looking at replacing an old system. Wanted to try out DMR versus NXDN. They had the same demo license.

 

[prcguy]

The owner of MRA is Mark Abrams. He has a lot of $$ to throw around. He is known for suing people on a whim.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

MRA was successful in getting the FCC to allocate bandwidth inside the guard bands of the upper and lower GMRS channels despite the FCC denying them that same incursion on the broadcast auxiliary band. if you have a repeater on those channels, you have no recourse from interference even if your station has existed prior. Thanks FCC.

 

[MTS2000des]

Ahh yes, the part 90 equivalent of the Radio Assist Ministry translator swap scam of 2003 which the FCC is still wading through. All of these folks demonstrate WHAT A JOKE the FCC is.

 

[prcguy]

That also means the legacy wide band GMRS deviation next to the guard band will probably cause more harm to MRA than they will to GMRS. Kind of makes me want to put up some more GMRS repeaters on the upper and lower channels. But that may cause Mark to try and sue me for the brand of shoes I'm wearing or that I'm breathing in some air he is entitled to.

MRA was successful in getting the FCC to allocate bandwidth inside the guard bands of the upper and lower GMRS channels despite the FCC denying them that same incursion on the broadcast auxiliary band. if you have a repeater on those channels, you have no recourse from interference even if your station has existed prior. Thanks FCC.

 

[109heavystatic]

Yep, that's a demonstration license.
A lot of radio shops/consultants have those licenses.
Look at the "AUTH TYPE" on the license page.

They are for short term testing/demonstration of radio equipment on a non-interference basis. They are not a "free for all" license that lets them do whatever they want. It's so they can set up a repeater at a potential customers location to show them how it works.

I had a shop do that for me back when we were looking at replacing an old system. Wanted to try out DMR versus NXDN. They had the same demo license.

Thanks for the explanation. I figured it was something beyond my scope of understanding. Now I know.

 

[AM909]

Back to the subject of the thread, demo licenses, didn't they stop granting these at some point? I think I applied for one and had it rejected sometime in the 80s or 90s.