Monmouth County Fire

[ejs1396]

oh thats amazing. im assuming this is because a thing of the sheriff wants everyone his way dispatch wise?

Yes, unless your entire municipality hands it over PD, Fire, and EMS at this point you’re not getting on the system. He wants the all the shared service agreements. “We have an empire to build over here” type thing.

To be on Monmouth co p25 system, ALL LE must be Dispatched by County , and Full Time E

Also correct, but he also won’t take single agencies like only PD he wants whole municipalities

Going back to Fire, what is the status of the fire channels on the 700 system? It's not a patch from VHF? Companies have actually purchased the new 700mhz radios to join the system?

Completely independent, no patch.
A lot of departments started to buy them years ago and waited for the system to go live. Numerous agencies in the county have been using the 7/800 fire ground simplex channels while they waited for the talkgroups to get turned on as well as some of the fire tac talkgroups that were activated toward the end of last year. It wasn’t really a surprise. It was just a matter of when.

I’d say the most active area right now as far as trunked fire would be the Western Monmouth region. They started using a lot of the tac talkgroups and were a big proponent in the push to go live .

 

[squad1321]

Going back to Fire, what is the status of the fire channels on the 700 system? It's not a patch from VHF? Companies have actually purchased the new 700mhz radios to join the system?

Fire companies are also looking for grant funding and/or starting to build the cost into their town budgets, as this project is not cheap! Also, because many mutual aid towns are still locally dispatched and on VHF, requires those on the County system to upgrade their radios to dual band... even more expensive!

 

[Mboy00]

Yes, unless your entire municipality hands it over PD, Fire, and EMS at this point you’re not getting on the system. He wants the all the shared service agreements. “We have an empire to build over here” type thing.

Also correct, but he also won’t take single agencies like only PD he wants whole municipalities

Completely independent, no patch.
A lot of departments started to buy them years ago and waited for the system to go live. Numerous agencies in the county have been using the 7/800 fire ground simplex channels while they waited for the talkgroups to get turned on as well as some of the fire tac talkgroups that were activated toward the end of last year. It wasn’t really a surprise. It was just a matter of when.

I’d say the most active area right now as far as trunked fire would be the Western Monmouth region. They started using a lot of the tac talkgroups and were a big proponent in the push to go live .

Sounds about right, the part of building a empire. Is the county going to front some of the costs for agency’s or are they going to leave it to the towns and say good luck have fun?

 

[ejs1396]

Sounds about right, the part of building an empire. Is the county going to front some of the costs for agency’s or are they going to leave it to the towns and say good luck have fun?

As of now….the latter

 

[CastorLB]

As of now….the latter

I don't know the intended recipients but MCSO received authorization to purchase $643,827 worth of Tait radios from PMC Wireless at the County Commissioners meeting on 3/16/23.

 

[Mboy00]

I don't know the intended recipients but MCSO received authorization to purchase $643,827 worth of Tait radios from PMC Wireless at the County Commissioners meeting on 3/16/23.

@ejs1396 chief, those funds don't happen to be the radios for UBPD do they..? heard a rumor around

 

[Mboy00]

So I stand corrected on this, there is a plan to migrate the UHF County Hotline channel to its own 800 simulcast (off system) with an unknown timeframe. Off-system can be attributed to the sheriff’s unwavering stance on not providing system access for non-county dispatched agencies. (I guess there’s only some exceptions)

I was told due to most agencies going to, or being on some form of 7/800 this would solve some hardware issues as far as agency inclusivity.

What’s 10002 then? The Law Alerts on the system?

 

[Tech792]

So I stand corrected on this, there is a plan to migrate the UHF County Hotline channel to its own 800 simulcast (off system) with an unknown timeframe. Off-system can be attributed to the sheriff’s unwavering stance on not providing system access for non-county dispatched agencies. (I guess there’s only some exceptions)

I was told due to most agencies going to, or being on some form of 7/800 this would solve some hardware issues as far as agency inclusivity.

I just received an email on this today. (The UHF county hotline)
The current 472 mhz hotline will be taken off the air on May 22 in favor of a new 700 band repeater. According to the email, it looks like a stand-alone 700 repeater with a regular PL of 151.4, not part of the 700 trunk system.

 

[squad1321]

I just received an email on this today. (The UHF county hotline)
The current 472 mhz hotline will be taken off the air on May 22 in favor of a new 700 band repeater. According to the email, it looks like a stand-alone 700 repeater with a regular PL of 151.4, not part of the 700 trunk system.

What is the point of going to 700, when UHF is already built out and seems to be working? Now towns once again have to go out and buy/install 700 base radios and I assume MonCo has to buy/install this new repeater system county-wide. Is it an Interop thing for the future?

 

[Mboy00]

I just received an email on this today. (The UHF county hotline)
The current 472 mhz hotline will be taken off the air on May 22 in favor of a new 700 band repeater. According to the email, it looks like a stand-alone 700 repeater with a regular PL of 151.4, not part of the 700 trunk system.

This is a very interesting decision. This further proves there doing everything they can to keep non-county dispatch agencys off there system. Interested to hear the following info for this!

 

[bunangst]

What is the point of going to 700, when UHF is already built out and seems to be working? Now towns once again have to go out and buy/install 700 base radios and I assume MonCo has to buy/install this new repeater system county-wide. Is it an Interop thing for the future?

I would say future purchase of single band 700/800 radios for the advantage of participating towns...but seems odd to take already existing interop UHF infrastructure off the air when the county is still a mix of bands.

 

[Mboy00]

I would say future purchase of single band 700/800 radios for the advantage of participating towns...but seems odd to take already existing interop UHF infrastructure off the air when the county is still a mix of bands.

Very true. Some of the towns it's very hard for them to get dual band *cough*... It will be interesting to see how much this is used though and seeing who actually upgrades.

 

[bunangst]

Very true. Some of the towns it's very hard for them to get dual band *cough*... It will be interesting to see how much this is used though and seeing who actually upgrades.

I know the county went Tait infrastructure, but I've seens price ranges for dual band APXs 🤯🤯 Not knocking the equipment but it's definitely a hard bill for municipalities and/or individual agencies.

 

[CastorLB]

I just received an email on this today. (The UHF county hotline)
The current 472 mhz hotline will be taken off the air on May 22 in favor of a new 700 band repeater. According to the email, it looks like a stand-alone 700 repeater with a regular PL of 151.4, not part of the 700 trunk system.

Any mention of the frequency? I’m not seeing the County being licensed for any conventional 700mhz frequencies

 

[Mboy00]

It sounds like Monmouth County just dispatched NJFFS about 40 minutes ago into wall. Does NJFFS monitor one of the paging channels? Seems to be it went out on North but a assignment into Wall.

 

[Tech792]

Monmouth County has been paging out NJFFS for a least 10 years, maybe more. Always been on Central Page 154.43, but its hit or miss. Never consistent. Some days they page, some days they don't. Guess it depends on who is working the fire desk at the time.

 

[CastorLB]

I just received an email on this today. (The UHF county hotline)
The current 472 mhz hotline will be taken off the air on May 22 in favor of a new 700 band repeater. According to the email, it looks like a stand-alone 700 repeater with a regular PL of 151.4, not part of the 700 trunk system.

Looking at the licenses, unless the RRDB is not accurate, there are two 700 frequencies assigned to the South simulcast license (WQQU279) that aren't being used currently; 771.53125 and 773.43125. Maybe they are going to be reallocated to the hotline?

 

[squad1321]

Monmouth County has been paging out NJFFS for a least 10 years, maybe more. Always been on Central Page 154.43, but its hit or miss. Never consistent. Some days they page, some days they don't. Guess it depends on who is working the fire desk at the time.

I've also heard MCSO calling NJFFS directly on Ch. 6, which MCSO use to call Monmouth Fire 6.

 

[Mboy00]

I've also heard MCSO calling NJFFS directly on Ch. 6, which MCSO use to call Monmouth Fire 6.

That's very interesting, as I remember during the big Matawan Trestle fire, the dispatcher didn't hit any tones and it didn't sound like they called them there because they we're trying to get them via the VHF North Response

 

[Tech792]

I was at that Matawan trestle fire. I heard the Matawan chief request NJFFS on north response so I automatically responded. I don't recall if they hit the NJFFS tones for this or if they actually called someone by phone. There was a lot of commotion at the time.