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Who’s gonna be first?

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The K40-Randynator2 with TNC connection is the first 5/8 Lambda Helix antenna with tune-able SWR.
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72cm = 28”. Sort of determines a storage bag to carry Randy so that antennas don’t get lost.

I favor use of zip pouches to separate small items by category, and maybe something like this can be the over-bag where small items are in zip pouches and the radio itself with some type of padded case.

There’s a fair bit of kit for which to account.

(9) items starting with radio. Then additional antennae as conceived, plus, IMO, an inexpensive tac vest to enable hands-free walkabout.

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Whatever the transport storage case it should be all-inclusive.

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Tac vest example. Under jac-shirt. Use of headset or lapel speaker/mic.

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Range matters, as does talk-time.

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Don’t speak that nomenclature, but it’s what works.

Randy takes same headset or speaker/mic pair as Cobra or Kenwood, IIRC.
TR is tip & ring, which would be more accurately tip & sleeve. This is how an earphone is wired.

TRS is tip, ring, sleeve. This is stereo headphones configuration.

TRRS s tip, ring, ring, sleeve. This would be stereo headset, with a microphone.
 

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I used my randy today to do a video..camera on the randy on the kitchen table ..me in the mobile.
I was able to go 4.5 mi b4 I could not hear my signal from the mobile. Randy on the table ..I thought that was pretty good for a rubber duck antenna..
 

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I used my randy today to do a video..camera on the randy on the kitchen table ..me in the mobile.
I was able to go 4.5 mi b4 I could not hear my signal from the mobile. Randy on the table ..I thought that was pretty good for a rubber duck antenna..

4.5-miles ain’t chicken scratch, it’s great.

And a testament to your 4W Mobile 😉

Randy is my pickup truck “backup radio”. And it’s a helluva lot easier to set up as a monitor for the main radio than the DX-86V I carry in the big truck.

The headset linked in post previous (example) to listen to one’s self would be a way to set The Big Radio controls for best TX clarity.

“Talkback” isn’t the feature desired as you know (for others).

An inexpensive headset by which to comfortably sit and alter radio TX controls to bring CLARITY to its best representation is desired.

This is distinct from what many think “ideal” where audio punch is emphasized. The few radios where that’s true (U880/980) are otherwise rare.

“Loud” isn’t the same as clear. Where one’s voice arises from the closest to a silent background is where you, the man, will be best understood. That’s the angle.

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To an extent it’s a test of the whole radio rig. How well all was done. The quality of components and of installation.

— Back the RF Power down all the way on the main radio as well as Mic Gain to get started once an empty channel is selected.

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DSP for Randy

Post in thread 'NRC peripheral??'
NRC peripheral??

Post in thread 'NRC peripheral??'
NRC peripheral??

Looks to me like a nice addition for a Fly’N Drive Kit if some pains are taken. Has my interest for this reason.

Where one is using Randy carried on one’s person with a taller antenna plus headset, spare battery, etc, . . same thing.

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The ACM-407


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Cobra PMREBM

Latter is closest I’ve come to headset. Am wanting something fits more securely (two way radio security type).

Anyone here can help? I see that Amazon’s offerings are MOTOROLA or Kenwood type, in main. I’m lost in knowing what might work


As to antennas with a bit of give, I’ve seen some flexi 24-31” offerings might work. EU Prez has a “tactical” antenna as model. (A post earlier in this thread re an ABBREE offering).

Nicest idea I saw was a 30-something where the base was a flexible gooseneck at the base. Aim the whip as convenient.


— Also available was a $12 chest rig seen that is a light, small radio carrier. Stretch straps around shoulders.

Use that to store Randy with headset and folded antenna till needed. (That’d fit under my work shirts). Room for a battery charger also.

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I saw this telescoping antenna 51"
The price is cheap enough to try.
Would be interesting to put a vna on it and extend it to see if and where it has the best swr..
 

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The K40-Randynator2 with TNC connection is the first 5/8 Lambda Helix antenna with tune-able SWR.
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72cm = 28”. Sort of determines a storage bag to carry Randy so that antennas don’t get lost.

I favor use of zip pouches to separate small items by category, and maybe something like this can be the over-bag where small items are in zip pouches and the radio itself with some type of padded case.

There’s a fair bit of kit for which to account.

(9) items starting with radio. Then additional antennae as conceived, plus, IMO, an inexpensive tac vest to enable hands-free walkabout.

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Whatever the transport storage case it should be all-inclusive.

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Tac vest example. Under jac-shirt. Use of headset or lapel speaker/mic.

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Range matters, as does talk-time.

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The randynator seems a better quality antenna then the telescoping one on ebay..I can't translate their website..curious if it's available in the states..?
 

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I received the above antenna and did the same test I mentioned above ..the first test with the stock rubber duck antenna was 4.5 miles.then the signal was lost. Same test with this telescoping antenna I got 8 miles and still received the signal intelligibly.
So for 26 bucks I'd say it's a win..
No tx tests done..I'll have to figure some way to do that
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Heat got applied in Handheld Antenna Wars
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somebody's following my youtube channel....

hope you enjoy them SlowMover.... sorry, their pretty awful I know.

here is a range test I have not shared with the public yet....

this video was just for me..... to share the results with a couple of friends... so I have not finished it yet... I need to add an intro and I need to splice in my receiving test with HYS antenna VS the old Radio Shack Antenna's mounted on the same handheld CB and I need to add an exit video... someday... most of my video's never see the light of day... I do them to answer questions I have about the CB hobby..... most never get posted.

I have hundreds of video's of my tests but I never post them... just a little camera shy I guess.... but I found these results very interesting. so I'll share this here today just for this group

I wanted to see what was the best handheld CB antenna??... many people say the old Radio Shack handhelds were the best because of those big tall center loaded antenna's
the old Radio Shack handheld CB's had a center loaded 48" antenna that performed better than all the other handheld makers radio's back in the 80's and 90's... most people believe it was because of those fantastic antenna's... those old Radio Shack handhelds were only 2.5 watts.... all the newer handheld CB's made after 2000 are much higher wattage.... 3.15 to 3.75 watts

so I took out the new 51" telescoping HYS antenna ( same as the 51" telescoping Hyshikra antenna's ) ... on a couple newer handheld CB's .. and I took out a few of the old Radio Shack handheld CB's with that huge center loaded antenna.....

I also have a Radio Shack TRC 226 which came with a TNC antenna connection like the older style tall center loaded Radio Shack antenna ( TNC is the same as the President Randy handheld CB connection ).... most new handhelds are now BNC antenna connections.... so what I did was I put the HYS 51" TNC antenna on the radio shack 226 and then put the Radio Shack factory TNC center loaded antenna on the President Randy....
this way I could compare the exact two radio's against each other... one with the great new high performance 51" HYS antenna's available today.... and one with the great older obsolete high performance Radio Shack center loaded telescoping antenna.

as you can see in my results... they all did exactly the same.... so I don't think either antenna performed any better than the other... even though the older radio's I test only had 2.50 watts....TRC 222 had 2.56 watts.... and the TRC 217 had 2.62 watts..... the TRC 216 ( the TRC 216 generally came from the factory set at 3.30 watts... the highest of any Radio Shack handheld built in the 80's and early 90's ) but the TRC I used for the test was an old favorite and crystal clear at only 2.80 watts
the newer radios have more dead key watts... like the Randy 3.70 watts and the Cobra HH50 at 3.72 watts
anyway here is a little test I did one night a couple weeks ago. and as far as I could tell all 7 handhelds did the same from 4 miles away from my base station.

when I worked as a first responder for my town's Gas and Electric company for the last 15 years...I had to "code in" when I arrived on scene and when I left the scene I had to radio I was leaving...... so now that I'm retired, I still like to arrive on scene and say into my mobile radio, Truck 8 on Scene... old habits are hard to break.... so far I have not had to say Truck 8 to base.. Roll Fire or Roll Police

 
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I have the Randy I and it works very well. Its mleft in my truck for back up coms if needed. Dam good battery too. Hasn't budged at all sitting for a year. I check it from time to time to check it. Still holding a great charge. IF they ever make one with SSB, I will jump on it quick. My old Cherokee with SSB was the best hand held cb I have ever owned.
 

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I have the Randy I and it works very well. Its mleft in my truck for back up coms if needed. Dam good battery too. Hasn't budged at all sitting for a year. I check it from time to time to check it. Still holding a great charge. IF they ever make one with SSB, I will jump on it quick. My old Cherokee with SSB was the best hand held cb I have ever owned.
I guess the people that make handheld CB radios never read forums..... everyone on Radio Reference has always said they will buy one when they make one... I read several other forums, and it's said on a daily basis that everyone is just waiting for them to come out with a SSB handheld so they can buy it.
the demand is there.... I don't understand the problem with supplying one??? with today's electronics I would think it would be pretty easy to get it all into something that you can hold in your hand... and with the battery technology, the power, battery size, and battery usage life really shouldn't be an issue... but we all have been waiting for years.
 

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Your video popped into my feed when I was researching GALAXY Saturn. I don't have a Tube account.

Nicely done. The Handheld Expert weighs in on Engineered to Be the Best.

I agree with musicman comments.

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