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The system will only pass TG'S from one site to another if a radio affiliates to it. There are no 'automatic patches' on the standard patrol channels, but it is very often that almost all Troop C patrol TG'S come across Troop B, and I'm sure it's similar for Troop C. Don't expect to hear Troop A traffic in Troop B, though.

Troop C's area has a large amount of both A & B traffic during the daytime (not often down there enough during work to truly quantify how much, but I have heard all 3 sections of the state active in C's coverage territory).

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C3-03 and C3-05 are often on A and C - some of the coverage area of the troops on these talkgroups goes into areas covered better by sites of Troop A.

A1-12, A1-14, and A1-15 are often heard on A and C - not sure why A1-12 but A1-14 and A1-15 patrol areas in Troop C's footprint.
 

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Thanks to both W2SJW & Septa3371CSX1. I will make sure that I keep both B & C sites active to ensure I am able to hear as much as possible.

Joe / N2TQL
 

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The system will only pass TG'S from one site to another if a radio affiliates to it. There are no 'automatic patches' on the standard patrol channels, but it is very often that almost all Troop C patrol TG'S come across Troop B, and I'm sure it's similar for Troop C.

Don't forget that talkgroups can be set as requested on sites. This is often to ensure that scan properly works. What this means is that if no radios are affiliated to a particular talkgroup and the site has capacity at the time you hit PTT then the traffic will go out over that site regardless of affiliation status.

They may have these talkgroups set to overlap on the larger simulcast cells. For the smaller sites they may not be set this way to ensure that capacity is available only for those channels affiliated.

On top of this there are security profiles on systems which say is the radio allowed on this site, on this talkgroup, etc. There are the same for talkgroups as well.

If you us a subscriber on a talkgroup and it affiliates to a site where the talkgroup is not allowed it will go back to site scan to find a site where it is authorized. If it can't find a site where it is allowed and the talkgroup chosen is allowed the radio will show "Out of Range" even though you are in range of a site on the system which theoretically can carry the talkgroup but is not allowed to.
 

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Looks like they allocated 2 talkgroups for the upcoming Pope Visit to Philadelphia.

24624 - Primary
24784 - Secondary
 

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Can anyone explain the P25 transmissions coming over NJSP Troop B simulcast? I notice TalkGroup 41200 coming up p25 yet the signal is so much stronger then the analog system yet I was under the impression the existing system is not P25 compliant.
 

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Probably an effect of the SmartX which takes the audio from the P25 system or P25 Consoles (aka Motorola MCC7500/7100's) and converts it back to analog audio. It sounds P25 but in reality it's just converted audio from P25 to analog so users on the 3600 system can hear/understand users on the other system.

Likewise audio picked up from the 3600 system and encoded to P25 digital to be heard over the P25 system.
 

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Hmm - I should also add that a user can transmit in digital on a 3600 system (Smartzone) on a talkgroup enabled for digital. The site must support it and have an available channel marked to carry digital transmissions....

Sorry - that's the other time you will hear digital on a trunked system as well...

I may have falsely assumed you heard smartx'ed audio (but, FYI, both can happen in this system).
 

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Something interesting I noticed this morning. GSP 2-Comm and NJTP 1-Comm are both showing up with UID 65520. I haven't checked other Troop D TG's yet however.
 

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That's how a radio ID is interpreted across a SmartX bridge when a P25 conversation is carried across a SmartZone site. The radio talking was affiliated on the P25 side and had an ID greater than 65535.

I've also seen it for integrated consoles as well.

Something interesting I noticed this morning. GSP 2-Comm and NJTP 1-Comm are both showing up with UID 65520. I haven't checked other Troop D TG's yet however.
 

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That's how a radio ID is interpreted across a SmartX bridge when a P25 conversation is carried across a SmartZone site. The radio talking was affiliated on the P25 side and had an ID greater than 65535.

I've also seen it for integrated consoles as well.

Question answered privately. Disregard.
 
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New IR Site Troop A

I had a chance to travel to South Jersey earlier today and noticed a new Peer Site to Troop A: Site 46, with a Control Channel of 856.46250 listed. Can anyone in the Southern NJ area plug in that frequency and see where the location of it might be? I noticed it too late in the log entry on Unitrunker before I roamed back into Troop C territory as to where it might be located at.
 

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Caught a patch tonight with a conversation regarding a patient with a head injury, and a previous motorcycle accident involving the same patient. It's probably the exhaustion, but I can't do the math/procedure in my head tonight.

TGID: 36403 35571 should translate to DHS Police North (36400) to DHS Police South (35568) correct?

Thanks fellas.
 
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TG 55128

anyone know what this is ? heard this morning ....
 

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55128 again this morning. Conversation about contacting Verizon and AT&T regards authorizations. Possibly REMU or something investigative.
 
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