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Cool :D

On the topic of unknown TGID's. I've logged a few in my travels of course. Should we have a "unknown agency" group entry added to the DB to keep track of these maybe? And then tag the unknown channels as ID:###### or something along those lines? I think something like this would make it easier for people to load them into their scanners and maybe spend some time dedicated to monitoring only those groups to help ID them.

Would it be a good idea to make a sticky post just for MWIN TGID discussion at some point maybe?

Also, on the topic of group names I'd mentioned previously. Maybe I'm doing something wrong all this time but downloading group names that are universally limited to a max of 16 characters when the first word in all of them is "Mississippi" pretty much renders the resulting truncated information totally meaningless. Manually editing down group names to something meaningful is a PITA to say the least. Again though maybe I'm totally missing some hidden option in every memory manager program I've ever used. I kind of think not though. If nothing else prefix them with their abbreviations maybe? Whatever.....I either need to learn something new or this sorely needs to addressed.

Not too fond of the empty groups either. Again with long arse names it's hard to pick out the handful of groups that actually have data in them from among the list of chopped off names in the software's group selector box.
 
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LD.. ??? OK thats one on me.... Any local agencies down there use that?.. Also note.. new sticky about to pop up for IDing new TG.... LongBeach Digital???? lol
 

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Doloroso LOS Coverage

Here estimated hieght of ant is 400 feet.. this is the LOS coverage of the site...
Hey, what's that?

using this data-
MWIN Doloroso
latitude 31.306278° N longitude 91.360667° W
elevation 735 ft above sea level (400 ft above ground)

You can do this for any of the sites and get the LOS coverage area....


Once the map loads click visibility cloak... its a nice area...
 

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I plotted out a few sites on there for yall.. Mike can play with loading the rest or making changes for actual tower hieghts.... Have fun....
 

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In my never ending search for good information :D I stumbled upon this nice little timeline for the system build-out. This is an attachment to a Letter of Configuration (LOC) found on the ITS website for Consulting Services for the implementation of a statewide wireless communications system dated 12/2007. Project Number: 37319 RFP Number: 3524
 
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I plotted out a few sites on there for yall.. Mike can play with loading the rest or making changes for actual tower hieghts.... Have fun....

gee thanks. Like I need another toy to play with.....:twisted::lol:

As you can see 700-800 MHz range (on flat terrain) is around 25 miles at 400 ft as I allready stated. That's just a mathematical reality. No fancy google thingys needed. :p

Terrain, foliage and weather are going to reduce that significantly as hugh is discovering in his outings.
 
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Yep, at 460 to 540 feet the tallest sites have basic LOS of 30 to 33ish miles at basic output of 100 watts.... But again...some sites are going to be higher output than that, and we won't be sure of total coverage for at least a few more months in P1... Once those last three/four sites get up and WAT, they will really start hard testing and tweaking.... Trust me MHP and MDOT, and F&W will quickly find the weak spots.... Especially F&W as they go where MDOT, and MHP don't.... Deep in the backwoods four wheeler country... Have to ask my cousin LP about F&W's plans... as far as if MWIN will become the primary since that sat net cost a lot more to run
 
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Now here is the real question for F&W.. will they keep the Sat Net and use MWIN too...????? Or use MWIN and VHF??? We know MHP will dual VHF and MWIN at least for a couple of years... But I see the Lo Band going byebye,.. and them using MWIN and Hi Band...
 

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And then relearn to edit my own posts in the right order sheesh...:p
 

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Yeah depending on the accuracy of the little timeline graphic I posted above it seems to indicate almost exactly 1 year from now until the complete finalization of all things Phase 1. Phase 1 construction is a just a tad bit behind the timeline (Q3 2009) but I doubt it's enough to make much of a difference in the overall grand scheme of things.

So in a nutshell we're still a ways away from the overal final product it seems. The big goal for the year was to get the Coast to Jackson link made and even though that goal may have had it's own setback with having to reissue the P2 and 3 RFP, and all that rigamarole, the goal was still pretty much achieved.

From now until well into next year there will be a lot of testing and tweaking to certify this thing for public safety use.
 
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Yeah the only sites that had issues as far as fed regs.. was Jeanette, the other sites I am not sure for sure what delayed them.... weather??? Still three to build and get up, still at least one built but not running on even site trunking yet. On P2a, they are building six at same time, and are working on equipment and etc for four others... Crystal Springs built, Hazelhurst getting built, Pt Gibson unsure of .... Raymond done and being outfitted....Utica I think is close to the goal again.... Warren County at least one being built.... Simpson "Harrisville" up and ready for outfitting.... Lorman they are supposed to have the site ready at least, Jeanette should also be site ready within the next week if the weather is dry like is forecast.... The MCC in Rankin County right across the Hinds/Rankin line is up....I heard that one of the Hinds sites is a colocated with the Hinds TRS tower.. that 600 foot monster out near the Metrocenter... P1 construction is barely behind on the original timeline.. but is two and a half months behind the MWC hurricane season timeline.... I know BGA is held up o site preps by the rain.. bulldozer won't work good in wet "Yazoo Clay" lol..
 
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***SIDENOTE*** LWIN P3 is rolling fast... At least three new sites in site trunking from sources.. and two or more about to go site trunking.... Expect at least four or five new additions there in the next month...
 

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WOW!!! Must be some funky atmospheric ducting going on tonight.

I set up to let pro96com do some decoding on some nearby sites for a little while. I swang my 800 MHz yagi around to the north to set up on Lucedale since I hadn't logged anything but the control channels from there. In the process of scrolling to the CC freq I was stopping on all the ones that were coming in and right now I've got unwavering 100% decoding and 4 bars signal strength on my PRO197 on New Augusta 57 miles away :eek:

But I can't get Wiggins South above 2 bars and 0% at 35 miles. LOL

Gotta love radio waves. :p

Edit: Dropped to 3 bars now...11:48 p.m....still 100% decoding.

Edit 2: and now it's all but gone...12:04 a.m.
 
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LOL see my post on the AWIN propogation tonight in the AR forum.... Am picking up a site I NEVER get....
 

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KE5TLF,

Not sure if you knew of this site, but I'm going to post it for everyone elses benefit as well. You can get actual real-time and forecasted tropospheric ducting from this website. I use it all of the time when I'm working weak signal VHF or 6 meters. Usually I can get a couple of day's heads up and know at least somewhat how the condx is going to be on the bands. On the site just select Eastern US for our region.

World Wide Tropospheric Ducting Forcasts for VHF/UHF/MICROWAVE
http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo.html

BTW, How many elements is your yagi and what elevation do you have it at? I'm using a Cushcraft 4 element yagi for 806-896mhz but it's propped on a camera tri-pod in my room attached to the scanner feed. Currently pointing to Fountainbleu site. I hope to get it outside so I can pick up Harrison County TRS reliably enough to begin feeding Harrison County as well.

WOW!!! Must be some funky atmospheric ducting going on tonight.

I set up to let pro96com do some decoding on some nearby sites for a little while. I swang my 800 MHz yagi around to the north to set up on Lucedale since I hadn't logged anything but the control channels from there. In the process of scrolling to the CC freq I was stopping on all the ones that were coming in and right now I've got unwavering 100% decoding and 4 bars signal strength on my PRO197 on New Augusta 57 miles away :eek:

But I can't get Wiggins South above 2 bars and 0% at 35 miles. LOL
Gotta love radio waves. :p
Edit: Dropped to 3 bars now...11:48 p.m....still 100% decoding.
Edit 2: and now it's all but gone...12:04 a.m.
 

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Tonights skip coming in from the Oak Grove site at 45 miles. :D

New Augusta coming in again now. :lol:
 
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Just did a RR DB import into PRO96COM and all the tower ids imported as 2## instead of 1##. Any ideas what's up with that?
 

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There have been issues on multisite systems lately we are working on fixing this. They should be showing as 1XXX sites.... just like they display in the db.
 
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