Papd Edacs

[ex8010]

HAs anyone had any luck listening to this system? I havent heard anything in west nassau. I barely get any signal with a roof antenna

 

[InspectahDeck718]

I'm in Brooklyn (about 8 miles away from JFK Airport) & get it just fine with my Pro-95

 

[ex8010]

Where is the radio's base? I'm probably about 10 miles line of sight to JFK. I get very poor reception. Is the system type edacs standard / wide? or is it narrow

 

[scosgt]

You are doing something wrong. You do not need a rooftop antenna. It is a strong signal that you can hear all over the NY area - remember, they range from the GW Bridge all the way to the Outerbridge Crossing, and out to Newark Airport.
What scanner are you using? You probably have your EDACS setup wrong.
BTW, I am in Valley Stream and it is loud and clear.

 

[maalox]

i get it loud and clear here in nyc i guess it all depends on the setup you have.

 

[ex8010]

I'm getting hits in search mode, but only one bar on the signal strength meter on the BCT-15.

I assume these are the correct freqs:

0866.2125
0866.8125
0867.3750
0868.6000
0867.8750
0868.5500
0868.9125

 

[elias1988]

I don't mean to hijack a thread or anything but i'm trying to listen to PAPD from southern NJ,i seen talkgroup 27 pop up;i checked the database and its not listed.no voice was heard on there just a keyup.

 

[scosgt]

0866.2125
0866.8125
0867.3750
0868.6000
0867.8750
0868.5500
0868.9125

And the first channel must be in position 1 of the bank, not position 0, and position zero must be locked out. You must have something set wrong, make sure you don't have ATT on, or you have a defective radio. It is a strong system. Take it off the roof antenna and use the RS 800Mhz duckie. You may be overloaded.

 

[ex8010]

I'm hearing a little more now, but I didn't change anything. Still not as loud and clear as some other transmissions. Does PAPD use the conventional frequencies that they have listed still?

 

[InspectahDeck718]

Where is the radio's base?

The main transmitter is located on top of the Chrysler Building in Manhattan. There are also repeaters in Queens (for JFK & LGA Airports) and Staten Island (for Newark Liberty Airport, Outerbridge Crossing, etc.)

Is the system type edacs standard / wide? or is it narrow

The system type is EDACS Wide.

I'm hearing a little more now, but I didn't change anything. Still not as loud and clear as some other transmissions.

1. Try buying a Radio Shack 800 MHz antenna. I tried listening to it on my Uniden 246T with the factory rubber duck antenna, but the transmission comes over really scratchy & broken. I tried the 800 MHz antenna, and the difference is crystal.

Does PAPD use the conventional frequencies that they have listed still?

2. As for the conventional freqs, I tried listening to JFK's & LGA's conventional freqs with their respective PL's and got nothing but static when it keys up (I can faintly hear a transmission, but can't make out anything out from it.) The bases are weak in power & are meant for use in that general area. I heard from somewhere that LGA commonly uses its conventional freq more than JFK or EWR, being LGA is the smallest airport out of the three.

I'm about 8-9 miles away from JFK (near the Belt Pkwy by Canarsie Pier) and I'm getting it fine over here. What part of Nassau are you from?

 

[ex8010]

I'm about 8-9 miles away from JFK (near the Belt Pkwy by Canarsie Pier) and I'm getting it fine over here. What part of Nassau are you from?

New Hyde Park area

 

[scosgt]

Something is wrong with your setup. You should get it loud and clear from NHP, you are only a mile or two from me.
Forget the conventional freqs, most everything is on the trunk except for LGA, which you won't hear anyway.

 

[Analogrules]

All I'm saying is that here in Union County, NJ, the PA EDACS system comes in HORRIBLE! The only frequency in their system that comes in clear here is 868.550 MHz (probably because it's a closer transmitter for that particular frequency to where I live). I know that there's nothing wrong with my scanner because I can hear just about everything else clear as a bell. Therefore, there actually may not be anything wrong with your set up if you're way out in Nassau County. 800 MHz frequencies in general are much weaker than those in lower bands and tend to have a much shorter listening range. In NYC itself, they come in loud and clear. But, once you go into central jersey and Long Island, it's understandable that those signals will become drastically weaker.

 

[Analogrules]

Yes, you can still hear some activity on the conventional frequencies (especially during an emergency or an immediate threat) much clearer. Their conventional frequencies in the 453 and 470 bands are a little scratchy, but definitely come in better than their crappy EDACS system here in Central Jersey. I'm assuming the 868.550 repeater is the one located in Staten Island, which is why I can get that one in so clear from where I live.

 

[scosgt]

New Hyde Park is NOT way out in Nassau County. It should get the PAPD EDACS loud and clear.

 

[Analogrules]

Perhaps. I cannot confirm or deny because I never attempted to pick up the PA EDACS system in New Hyde Park. However, they do come in quite weak (with the exception of 868.550) here in Union County, NJ.

 

[scosgt]

I have it on right now, and I am probably 3-4 miles tops from his house. Comes in loud and clear, he has some problem with his setup or radio. I get three bars on the s meter. It is "possible" that he is just in a dead spot for that system, but I have received it much farther out on the Island than where he is.
For the record, I am also receiving NJSP Troop B perfectly, and Suffolk County fairly well (but Suffolk depends on which tower, usually I can not get it from here).
This is on a 796D with a RS 800Mhz duckie, located on the first floor (well, I only have one floor)!

 

[crashcrew]

Forget the conventional freqs, most everything is on the trunk except for LGA, which you won't hear anyway.

Only JFK and Newark Airport/Port Newark use the 800 as primary comms. HT, LT, GWB, Staten Island bridges, Bus Terminal, LGA and PATH still use conventional. CPD channel on 800 is primary SOD and license checks.

 

[scosgt]

I do hear Staten Island fairly often on the trunk, but really the airports are the only real reason for me to monitor PAPD. I do have the conventionals for JFK, in the winter you get to hear the snow plows! UGH.
Anyway, if anything interesting does come up in the bridges or tunnels, it will likely come over NYPD SOD anyway.

 

[crashcrew]

I do hear Staten Island fairly often on the trunk, but really the airports are the only real reason for me to monitor PAPD. I do have the conventionals for JFK, in the winter you get to hear the snow plows! UGH.
Anyway, if anything interesting does come up in the bridges or tunnels, it will likely come over NYPD SOD anyway.

You hear SIB and Lincoln Tunnel guys using the 800 as a talk around, 800 is not up for regular comms yet. As for bridge and tunnel stuff coming over NYPD SOD, that's all well and good but we'll shoo them away, not their job :lol: