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PPS version 4-00-Beta20 Errors Out when Programming a G5
- Thread starter jabbeaux
- Start date
Wasn't that version of PPS for the scanning beta? If so, your serial number must have been registered with Unication to use it.
Likewise with the Firmware, it is specific to the pager serial number, if it was not registered to your device it will not work.
I am running the beta firmware, and have been for a long time without issue, and also haven't had issues programming with multiple versions of PPS.
I think what happened was I got this PPS a while ago from Uni, installed, then never used it. My profile was last programmed with PPS version v.3.16.beta24 (?) or 3.17.beta7 (beta10? beta12?). It should work since I'm running latest firmware version of the Beta.
I think what happened was I got this PPS a while ago from Uni, installed, then never used it. My profile was last programmed with PPS version v.3.16.beta24 (?) or 3.17.beta7 (beta10? beta12?). It should work since I'm running latest firmware version of the Beta.
For anyone who stumbles on this thread w/ same issue, here is the answer from Unication:
- If you're running v1.40 firmware (closed scanner beta), program with PPS 3-17-Beta07.
- To use a higher version PPS can't be running the old 1.40 firmware, need to upgrade to v1.33 firmware. As of today 4/25/2023 the latest public stable firmware version is v1.33. By newer/higher-version PPS version, I mean any that came after 3-17-Beta07 so:
- 3-17-Beta10, or
- 3-17-Beta12, or
- 4-00-Beta20, or
- 4-00-Beta28,
- etc.
- Scanner beta firmware is abandoned. They couldn't scan between analog and conventional, that was nail in coffin.
- Any firmware released after v1.40 (which came out in 2020) is considered "newer" by Uni even though yes - the version numbers are lower like 1.32, 1.33, 1.34, etc. They contain newer stuff, and can be programmed by these increasingly newer PPS versions.
- PPS is not "locked" by serial number.
- A PPS version may/may-not work with a given firmware version, but this isn't about serial number locking. Rather, it's if the PPS was coded to deal with the file structure/settings of the given firmware installed. This was my issue. Effectively my v1.40 firmware is too old and PPS 4-00-Beta20 through 4-00-Beta28 too advanced. To use these PPS versions, I need to upgrade to v1.33 firmware.
- It's safe to upgrade to v1.33 from the scanning beta. Or v1.34 albeit issues missing tone outs on 1.34 that's why was pulled for now. In fact v1.31, .32, .33, and .34 all considered "upgrades" to 1.40 beta firmware and is safe to install them. But if I do, will lose the scanning feature. Which, Uni knows is a deal-killer for many. But there is newer logic/tech built into these upgrades...at the sacrifice of losing the scan feature.
Is there anything earth shattering on 4.0? I dumped my 1.40 a long time ago.
Yeah it's actually why I wanted to use it. It's a complete upgrade to the usual look/feel/layout. In my pic I attached at begin of thread, those 4 buttons at top slide open the top 1/2 of the window so you can program settings while simultaneously seeing the Frequency List, Trunking Systems List, Protocol List, or Grouping List. You can only open one at a time in the top, and the bottom remains the section selected on the leftside nav. Can also collapse the top by clicking the button again, and the split pane disappears.
The Grouping List is different than any PPS before it, all the TGID's can now be saved into "groups" then when setting up knobs you select that "group". If you're dealing with a number of talk groups or two-tones, it's pretty nice.
I also really like the Knob/Zone grid is now color coded. Each knob's color is different depending on what's programmed. Haven't looked up the color coding legend, but overall it just feels more intuitive. For advanced users. I do not think this will make PPS any easier for a brand new radio enthusiast, but if you knew how to program Motorola or similar and familiar with what the major radio settings do, then this layout flows much more naturally. I also see some additional settings I hadn't noticed before, like controlling LEDs and timeouts.
Sounds K/A! Exciting!
It has nothing to do with firmware 1.40. Its made by a group on Facebook
I downloaded V0.4.0 (Now up to Beta 28) a few months ago but just now started using it.
It's one of those times you say "Why didn't I do this earlier"
Im in the process of redoing all 3 of my G5s
I love the enhanced cut/paste, Export/Import a csv file and only have the TGs you want with the system so programming
a knob I don't have to scroll through 400 TGs
I downloaded V0.4.0 (Now up to Beta 28) a few months ago but just now started using it.
It's one of those times you say "Why didn't I do this earlier"
Im in the process of redoing all 3 of my G5s
I love the enhanced cut/paste, Export/Import a csv file and only have the TGs you want with the system so programming
a knob I don't have to scroll through 400 TGs
The OP had the problem with PPS 1.40 Beta 20 and FW 1.40, this was a very early beta that attempted to add scanning to the G4/G5. It didn't work and has since been abandoned. The Beta 20 PPS was specific to that beta test and included different features, so the OP has everything to do with the firmware, especially since you must change the firmware from 1.40 to a newer (albeit lower numbered) version.
That said, totally agree with you on the rest of your post, many advantages with Beta 1.40 Beta 28, but it is only available on the Facebook Beta Group. And, BTW, it wasn't made by the Facebook group, it was made by Unication which runs the FB group.
brndnstffrd
Member
Would love to join this Beta group, but I don't use Facebook. Is there any other way to get any of this, such as emailing customer support. or whoever the current product rep on here is, etc?
Not that I'm aware of, just through the private FB group
Bummer. I’d assume they will release it at some point to the masses once they get everything worked out?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Where might one find the fb group for beta testing? I have tried looking and can’t find it anywhere.
It was made hidden and no longer available to join as far as I can tell
Due to the failure of Beta 1.4, it was admitted into the Witness Protection Program.
I was running 1.40 but reverted to 1.33, trying to program with 4.0.30 won't work. Getting and error message. It will read it but wont program.
Reconrider
Active Member
You have to use 3.17beta12 I believe for it to work on 1.40.
Find the files in my signature, and go through them and see what one works. One or two of them will work.
