SDS100 Prerelease Discussion

[mtindor]

Shortly before the SDS was announced, I was planning to buy another XTS 5k. Now I will be holding off on that, I just need to know how the audio & simulcast performance compare.

I completely understand, really. But I think there are limited beta testers, and I think that we all should try to be less demanding of them. I've seen countless people post about how their simulcast system is worse than anyone's, and that they should be a beta tester to prove out the scanner. But to be honest, anybody experiencing simulcast issues is going to feel like their issues are worse than anyone elses.

I wonder how many of those people who are beta testers own/have access to Unications or commercial radios. If they don't have access to such, then they have to try and meet up with somebody who does have said equipment in order to do some comparisons. At that point it I'd think it would be asking a lot for them to do it.

I know that Jason Houk has been going way above and beyond, traveling to all sorts of places in Ohio, to give people an idea how the scanner performs on LSM systems as well as NXDN systems. I certainly can't expect him to do more than that.

Mike

 

[scan-pa]

Not to mention that only a few pre production engineering models of the SDS100 exist. The final design plans have yet to be finalized.

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[ThePhotoGuy]

UPMan, are you interested in BETA tester for Baltimore County, MD. This is another LSM site with poor performance on the 36 series scanners, which I own 3 of.

I would be interested in seeing it tested on the Baltimore County system too. My Pro-668 and BCD436hp don't do well on the system. My G4 is good on it but once in a while I will notice the signal drops and you miss some transmissions even stationary.

Baltimore City and CMARC are other systems I liked to see it tested on. That can be hard to listen too.

 

[ThePhotoGuy]

I am interested in getting the SDS100 when released. I like my G4 but there are many features that a 436hp has that lacks on G4 and I miss.

 

[daddyjohn]

UPMan, please come through Southwest Missouri and bring the SDS100 when you do. This is a real battle ground between Uniden and TRX users and there are a lot of us from both camps that would love to spend some time with you even if you are just passing through. There are numerous systems that all have their quirks and we would really like to see if this SDS100 is the answer to our problems. Thank you for your continued dedication despite all of your health concerns.

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[WX4JCW]

not to mention beta testing is a huge commitment, #1 you are under an NDA so you can only divulge what and when a developer wants you to, you have to test, they are not giving these guys a unit just to have one.
there will be issues with anything beta tested, they are the final line of defense so to speak to make sure the product is ready for prime time, its a lot of work.

I develop simulations so we have a few beta testers, even had one leaking screenshots, but we are hard on them, they have to test or they are out

 

[WX4JCW]

Ok Audio on Jason's live Stream was good when at his house, but on the drive video i never really experience the choppiness on a G4 in columbus like that, so it is still a bit distorted more on mobile than a G4

 

[h8tdigitalradio]

Baltimore City and CMARC are other systems I liked to see it tested on.

If I have time, and there is a GOOD seafood restaurant with good parking you can recommend on the Inner Harbor, I'll check it out. I was once employed in Baltimore by a certain athletic wear manufacturer before being laid off, so I don't make the trip anymore. Baltimore City/Co and CMARC (Harford Co) was difficult to monitor while mobile.

I can say monitoring MD FIRST (Cecil, Kent and Queen Anne's Co Sites) has been good. The Harris P25 Phase II system in Worcester Co (Ocean City) was good while mobile.

 

[marksmith]

Many more users requested that custom search mode display SYS ID, Site ID, etc. If the channel is skipped, that cannot happen. So, either AVOID, scroll, or use negative delay.

Exactly.

Mark
536/436/ws1095/996p2/996xt/325p2/396xt/psr800/396t/HP-1/HP-2 & others

 

[marksmith]

Thanks for the confirmation, its a shame you don't want to improve your product functionality, at least I know I've got to wait for Whistler to bring out something new or go for the AOR DV10 if it ever arrives.

I prefer it not skip on. If I am searching.

Mark
536/436/ws1095/996p2/996xt/325p2/396xt/psr800/396t/HP-1/HP-2 & others

 

[marksmith]

I would be interested in seeing it tested on the Baltimore County system too. My Pro-668 and BCD436hp don't do well on the system. My G4 is good on it but once in a while I will notice the signal drops and you miss some transmissions even stationary.

Baltimore City and CMARC are other systems I liked to see it tested on. That can be hard to listen too.

CMARC and Baltimore City are not LSM, nor are they hard to receive. Any issues are antenna and not radio. This radio will not be much different than 436 on those systems.

Baltimore County is true LSM and depending on location of listener can be difficult to receive. This type of system is what the SDS100 was created to solve.

Mark
536/436/ws1095/996p2/996xt/325p2/396xt/psr800/396t/HP-1/HP-2 & others

 

[troymail]

CMARC and Baltimore City are not LSM, nor are they hard to receive. Any issues are antenna and not radio. This radio will not be much different than 436 on those systems.

Baltimore County is true LSM and depending on location of listener can be difficult to receive. This type of system is what the SDS100 was created to solve.

Mark
536/436/ws1095/996p2/996xt/325p2/396xt/psr800/396t/HP-1/HP-2 & others

Baltimore City is definitely simulcast.... and I am pretty sure CMARC is also (although not as "bad").

 

[eorange]

But I doubt the Unication is 100% perfect, eve though their fanboys suggest that they are.

Mike, the Unication really is practically perfect when it comes to clear LSM decode. It's hard to characterize this any other way. In a couple of months I'll have had my G4 for about a year, and the thing still continues to amaze me every time I turn it on. It's not perfect usability-wise, but that's something I can deal with.

I've owned at least 5 various Uniden models, so this isn't anti Uniden bias. Still have 2.

Believe me, I had my doubts about the Unication too, but I took an expensive risk and it really paid off.



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[DSC45]

Comparison

Mike, the Unication really is practically perfect when it comes to clear LSM decode. It's hard to characterize this any other way. In a couple of months I'll have had my G4 for about a year, and the thing still continues to amaze me every time I turn it on. It's not perfect usability-wise, but that's something I can deal with.

I've owned at least 5 various Uniden models, so this isn't anti Uniden bias. Still have 2.

Believe me, I had my doubts about the Unication too, but I took an expensive risk and it really paid off.
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Sir, I would be very interested to get your expertise between the SDS100 and your G4. I hope the occasion arrises, and you would be willing to compare the two.

Thanks you,

 

[eorange]

Sir, I would be very interested to get your expertise between the SDS100 and your G4. I hope the occasion arrises, and you would be willing to compare the two.

Thanks you,

Haha thanks, but I am all set radio-wise and have no future purchases in the works.

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[CanesFan95]

What's the audio mW rating out the speaker on this thing?

 

[CanesFan95]

So if you're conventionally scanning DMR frequencies and the scanner stops on an active transmission, why can't the brains of the scanner look at the data and go "oh, wait a minute, that's not a voice call", and then just resume scanning right away? I have a BCD996P2 that hangs on a local DMR frequency with LRRP data.

 

[scan-pa]

What's the audio mW rating out the speaker on this thing?

Hope it is at least 1w or higher. The 436 low 750mw output is a joke.

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[CanesFan95]

I've heard the 436 and don't believe it really was 750 mW. Other lower-rated units, including commercial gear, sound louder. 1 full watt would be a lot. That would be a dream, but I hope the audio on this thing will at least be more robust than most handhelds.

 

[scan-pa]

I've heard the 436 and don't believe it really was 750 mW. Other lower-rated units, including commercial gear, sound louder. 1 full watt would be a lot. That would be a dream, but I hope the audio on this thing will at least be more robust than most handhelds.

Well more audio, color light display, sdr, whatever cpu ect... this device is going to eat power.....

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