I am listening i just ain't understanding. here is what is in my scanner ... so the freqs can be the same but if the audio option is different then it's a different freqs?
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and clintwood is not far at all from haysi maybe 10 miles and lebanon to haysi and clintwood is maybe 30 miles
Same freq. audio option defines any tone, nac or ran.
i'm sorry i just don't completely understand. so it's the same traffic on both freqs or if the tone is different it's differnt traffic?
i read the scanner to sentinel after it had traffic on the freqs but the tone still says search and did not change.
Audio option won’t change unless you manually change it.
You have 3 identical freqs. 2 have the same tone listed and 1 has no tone. To make life easy, set the 2 with the same tone to avoid, leave the 1 one with out the tone, that’s set to search, and set @ProScan up to record and log that freq. After a few days, review the recordings. If it turns out that each agency uses a different tone then you can just reprogram them with the correct tones.
You have 3 identical freqs. 2 have the same tone listed and 1 has no tone. To make life easy, set the 2 with the same tone to avoid, leave the 1 one with out the tone, that’s set to search, and set @ProScan up to record and log that freq. After a few days, review the recordings. If it turns out that each agency uses a different tone then you can just reprogram them with the correct tones.
Go back & read Dave's answer again.
While these two agencies use the same frequency, as Dave has noted, they almost certainly use different CTCSS tones or DCS codes.
You need to program that frequency twice. Once, using 154.160, and PL (CTCSS) tone 103.5, as Hays FD in Dickenson County. The second entry for 154.16, with tone/code set as "Search", labeled for Hays FD in Russel County.
If the tone (or code) listed in the database for Hays is correct, the only traffic you'd hear on that entry should be Hays. If you are familiar with the area, and listen long enough, you may recognize street names, or addresses for businesses, that are specific to that county.
The other entry of 154.160, for the Russell County entry, should be set as Search. See this screnshot. For the Russell entry, I set it to lock out tone 103.5, which is used by Hays, so that anything found would not be a repetition of the known Hays entry.
You could set up a Favorites list with only these entries. (sample attached). When you are going to be away from the scanner for a while, or, say overnight, let the scanner monitor only these two channels. Set the radio to record everything. (Press "Func" + "Replay". You will see the option to start recording.) Let it record anything found on those two entries. After you've let it run awhile, and hopefully, there will be at least some calls, you can listen to those recordings on the scanner. Personally, I would put the scanner in mass storage mode & copy them to your PC, then listen to them with the Universal Scanner Audio Player. (The link for this program is at the bottom of posts. See this.)
Traffic on Hays, which is the one with a listed PL tone, will show that tone, 103.5, in the spreadsheet the recordings vreate using the player. Any other transmission,on that frequency, but using a different tone or code, will be listed with it. You can click on the tone column & sort them to separate recordings by the tine or code found.
Quite a few years ago, there were a couple of frequencies used in my area by several departments. Three used 155.835, another group used 154.400. I had an external antenna, & could hear all three. By knowing the areas (roads & businesses for example), I could get an idea of who was talking. (This was before scanners that can utilize tones and codes were available, so no way to concentrate on any one agency.)
Note that the license for 154.160, in the database, expired in December of last year. It's possible that they are still using it, even though the license is expired. However, I see frequency 158.805 is licensed to Lebanon, on frequency 158.805, license WNJR864, that is not listed on the database page.
Ok great i think i understand this i read everything 5 times over lol . so i have dickenson and russel county and each one has the same freqs 154.1600 so i should leave the russel county one to search and the dickenson county one as the tone and if they have the same tone i should lock that tone out on one or the other? i'm still scratching my head alittle but is that about right? In my settings right now i have the russel Co set to search and the dickenson set to CTCSS 103.5 do i need to lock it out on the russel co or just leave it at search?
I will try the recording option as well . btw i noticed the expired license as well.
another thing is i stopped my scanner on the russel system and the lebanon department and let it scan just that and for some reason it's jumping to scott county when traffic starts on that. what's with that?
Thanks to both u all for helping me with this i think i'm beginning to wrap my head around it. u just have to talk to me like i'm stupid for me to get it lol oh and screenshots help alot!
Take this one for example i have 155.2350 and it's showing as search and rescue and it's showing up in scott county in the scott county it's showing as tone NAC 001 and in the search and rescue it's showing and just "search" Now can i just add these to the scanner from sentinel like they are and each freqs will play different traffic or is that not how it works. because if it's already right in the database i don't need to correct anything and that would be good.
Here is the one i'm having the most trouble with. 151.6700 it's showing up on different places and 151.9550 plays the same traffic as 151.6700 and on dsdplus it plays the same traffic and it's a NXDN site. when i put the scanner in zip code scan mode it stops on these freqs and it shows the name . such as 151.9550 the scanner stops on common buisness VHF high and in the database 151.9550 is in there it also will stop on wise that is 151.9550 and wise is 151.6700 to in dsdplus both freqs have the same traffic. so the scanner in zip code mode is stopping and displaying these sites and it's wrong . it's hard to understand it is all maybe i'll get it eventually
Look at my post above.
Program your frequency for Lebanon like the example. That way, if a transmission comes across using tone 103.5hz, which you know is Scott, it will ignore it. Any transmission with a tone or code other than 103.5hz will be received & you'll see the found tone or code flashing on the display.
Because one does not use a tone, labeled csq, one is fm with a pl tone. Another is listed without a tone, but not listed as csq, and the last one is P25.
Both freqs are used on First Energy which is a P25 system.
| 151.670 | 89A | FirstEnergy | Terra Alta | Preston | VA |
| 151.955 | 89A | FirstEnergy | Vienna | Wood | VA |
DSD is spitting out nxdn because the same freq is also used by High Knob and is nxdn.
Ok i understand that. heres what i did i locked out the russel county one and left the dickenson open.
Now what about . 151.6700 it's showing up on different places and 151.9550 plays the same traffic as 151.6700 and on dsdplus it plays the same traffic and it's a NXDN site. when i put the scanner in zip code scan mode it stops on these freqs and it shows the name and it shows nxdn but in the database one is nxdn and the other shows "search. such as 151.9550 the scanner stops on common buisness VHF high and in the database 151.9550 is in there it also will stop on wise that is 151.9550 and wise is 151.6700 to in dsdplus both freqs have the same traffic. so the scanner in zip code mode is stopping and displaying these sites and it's wrong
Like this 151.9550 is both NXDN in the database and 151.9550 is just "search" in the database. when the scanner stops on the site labeled as "search" in the database the scanner shows NXDN but the common buisness site it's displaying is search.
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You did not include an example of where frequency 151.955 is. Not in either screenshot.
What is in the database is what someone has submitted. Is that frequency listed twice for the exact same user & location? Or is it like 154.160, as has already been around the block a few time, listed with a tone under one county, and without a tone (and as noted, that license is expired under a different county.
What is in the database is what someone has submitted. Is that frequency listed twice for the exact same user & location? Or is it like 154.160, as has already been around the block a few time, listed with a tone under one county, and without a tone (and as noted, that license is expired under a different county.
Right here sorry about that. but 151.6700 and 155.9550 in dsdplus is the same traffic and same NXDN but when i put zip code search in my sds100 it will stop on common business VHF High and play 151.9550 .
Now back to this other one i just tried stopping my scanner on search and rescue and search and rescue has 155.23500 but scott county also has 155.2350 but the scanner is jumping to scott county when there is traffic but i have it stopped on only search and rescue. the search and rescue is showing "search" as the tone and scott shows NAC 001.
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Both 155.9550 and 151.6700 show up as nxdn in dsdplus when i'm scanning those freqs it will stop on search and rescue as 155.9550 and it's playing the NXDN traffic. it's not playing different traffic. i just put the search and rescue in it's own fav list and set it to scan only that fav list and it's still playing the nxdn traffic
and i set the search and rescue to analog only
Go read post 32 again. Read what I quoted you saying, and read my reply. Pound gap sheriff uses 151.955
You really need to look up exactly where these freqs are used and understand some are common between trunked systems and conventional channels used by different agencies that have nothing to do with each other .
You really need to look up exactly where these freqs are used and understand some are common between trunked systems and conventional channels used by different agencies that have nothing to do with each other .
But why do they play the same traffic if they are different . 155.9550 is NXDN and it will show common business 155.9550 as NXDN when it's not in the databse and it will show wise county 155.9550 which is NXDN .
also 151.9550 is showing up under Itinerant Businesses as nxdn but it's not in the database as NXDN but when i search for it with zip code mode it stops on that freqs under itinerant businesses.
I would just like to know how to combate this and have it show the right one if i'm searching through with zip code mode and i get a channel that contradicts it'self how do i figure out what to do so i can get it in my fav lists as the correct one.
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