I hope they don't have issues with parts supply like others do. We are having a time getting Apx4000 batteries and are eager to try out the 9000.
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So, is the BKR9000 really vapourware?
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It sounded like they have a good inventory of parts.
Jeff, was there any discussion of whether they have, and I'll use big M's term for the lack of a better description, some form of a wide band entitlement key so that it can operate on amateur 2 m and 70 cm, Marine, & GMRS 462/467 channels?
Just in time. I know several large entities who plan to drop motorola over ridiculous costs and lead times.
Thanks Jeff for stating all of this. I took the Friday class and concur. BK is being very hard charging on this radio in the ways that they release it and the ways that we, as Dealers sell it. We can show pics of it, how it works, what you can purchase (in the way of the different bands) accessories but we have strict rules on releasing the pricing. You MUST call your local Authorized Dealer and get pricing. Not ALL Dealers are Certified to sell the BKR9000 (like Jeff stated) and that's fine, some don't want or their clients don't need the 700/800MHz. bands, so they will sell the BKR5000.
More to come to the Group.
More to come to the Group.
Until the Part 90 Certification is granted for 700 MHz, we cannot sell them to agencies which are on systems that utilize 700 MHz frequencies. To date they have been mute on this critical issue. Some of this pushback comes directly from the system managers saying they are not comfortable putting equipment not legal for 700 on their systems.
Isn't that something very basic that should be easy for a company like BK to take care of? Does anyone know when that certification will be completed?
I'm not sure if this will answer your question. It does say "UHF 380-520 MHz, 5 Watt".
Please let me know if this doesn't answer your question.
Jeff
mmckenna
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I think he's probably asking about if it'll have some sort of option for 5KHz deviation on VHF/UHF for those that want to use it on Amateur radio, GMRS and/or marine band
Currently, the answer is "no".
Only shows narrow band analog and P25 as emission designators. Does not show 16K0F3E (except on 800/900MHz), so unless they made a mistake here too, there is no wide band on VHF or UHF.
Also, only shows Part 90, so won't be 'legal' for use on Marine (Part 80) or GMRS (Part 95). Yeah, I know "Everyone" ignores that part of the rules….
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Interesting that BK is stifling dealer price competition by not allowing pricing details, thus forcing customers into potential full court press sales calls just to get an idea of the cost. They are of course, free to conduct business as they wish, making pricing secret seems counter productive, even if it does cull out some lookie-loos.
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Yes. I'm sure they are aware and working on it.
FCC OET site doesn't show anything approved yet. That may just mean it is in process. Again, I'm sure BK is aware and working on it. Missing this obvious requirement would prevent legal use of the radio on 700MHz systems.
gtaman
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If it uses the same firmware as the BKR5000. (it should. The KNG use the same) it will do wideband. My BKR5000 currently does wideband. There is a checkbox in the software.
Thanks gtaman, that's what I was wondering. Whether it will do the 25 kilohertz/ 5 KC wideband. It is nice to be able to do in combination with using it for Public Safety and the radio maintenance that I do. I'd kind of like to confirm that though for sure before I solidly look at buying one.
Thanks Jeff for responding. I was looking for what GTA man mentioned, which I did see in an RES overview video of programming a BKR 5000. It shows a ' narrowband override' on one of the screens so that the bands that still used 25 khz deviation such as ham, marine, & GMRS would work. I wanted to know if that carried over to the 9000.
gtaman
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Very cool, thank you so much for checking and we'll see what happens when the 9,000's roll out.
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Had one of the IWCE2023 e-mails come through today and low and behold, BK is listed as one of the companies that will be there.
I guess they are ready to return to the trade show circuit and show their wares. Looking forward to seeing the 9000 finally.
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I guess they are ready to return to the trade show circuit and show their wares. Looking forward to seeing the 9000 finally.
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Project25_MASTR
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BK is present at IACP in Dallas. Showing off the BKR9000. After talking with a friend over there...P25 is the only digital mode they are developing for (bummer but their price point is good).
Are they trying to beat motorolas and kenwoods price at all band? If not they won't go far.
None the less I have seen nothing but issues from the kng line with a county next door and the users sick of bk. I've heard excuses from firmware to bugs to the dealer was selling refurbished as new to the agency. Who knows.
None the less I have seen nothing but issues from the kng line with a county next door and the users sick of bk. I've heard excuses from firmware to bugs to the dealer was selling refurbished as new to the agency. Who knows.
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Millennial Graying OBT Guy
They are priced similarly to EFJ (little more maybe, but American manufacturing versus Japanese manufacturing). What I don't know about is how their features are licensed with the BK radios and whether or not BK will be offering trade-in/trade-up specials which may be where pricing really begins to differentiate.
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