Sticky Thread For MilAir 2016

[mdmonitor]

ACY- Atlantic City NJ (KACY)
ADW- Joint Base Andrews MD (KADW)
BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
BWI- Baltimore-Washington/Thurgood Marshall Airport (KBWI)
DAA- Davison AAF, Ft Belvoir VA (KDAA)
DCA- Reagan National Airport/CGAS Washington, Wash DC (KDCA)
DOV- Dover AFB DE (KDOV)
GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
LFI- Joint Base Langley-Eustis, Va (KLFI)
MTN- Martin State Airport, Baltimore (KMTN)
NGTF-Northrop-Grumman Test Facility, Baltimore (KBWI)
NTPS-Naval Test Pilot School, PAX
PAX- NAS Patuxent River MD (KNHK)
PTC- Potomac Area TRACON
WRI- Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst NJ (KWRI)
ZBW- Boston ARTCC
ZDC- Washington ARTCC
ZNY- New York ARTCC


1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EDT))

((Reach/OSACOM/PAT/JOSA flts not included--Some acft idents from local ADS-B collectors))

0700- Navy 101 (C-37B # 166378 VR-1 ADW)-depart ADW then ADS-B shows heading northwest.
0757- Tester 77 (unid, NTPS PAX)-w/NTPS Ops (123.2) w/PIREP. Also w/BW (119.275). NOTE: Soundxs like a helo.
0807- Musel 1 (UH-1 1st Helo Sqdn ADW)-local acty at ADW.
0811- ADS-B shows PAAF 130 (Gulfstream IV J-756, Pakistani Air Force) crossing over Richmond VA from Savannah GA at FL410 heading northeast.
0812- Navy 100 (C-37B # 166376 VR-1 ADW)-depart ADW then ADS-B shows heading northwest.
0818- ADS-B shows Royal 90 (C-17A # 07-7173 436th AMW/3rd AS DOV) over Richmond at FL 200 heading north.
0819- Marine 714 (UC-35D # 166714 MAW-4 ADW)- depart ADW.
0855- Pacer 11 (C-21A # 84-0120 457th AS ADW)-depart ADW then w/Griffin CP w/departure msg. Also w/Leesburg Radio (255.4) & w/Huntress (228.9) while operating over Atlantic off DE/MD coast at FL200
0900- Scan 84 (Dash-8 N984HA NGTF)-working on Northrop discrete (123.225) w/unid grnd unit callsign Speilberg.
0905- Boxer 24 (C-40C # 02-0202 201st AS DC ANG ADW)-depart ADW. ADS-B shows in low acty near Harrigburh & Lancaster PA.
0915- ADS-B shows Terra 97 (C-32B # 00-9001 NJ ANG 108WG/150SOS WRI) over Atlantic City heading towards WRI.
0928- Nighthawk 31 (id as V-22/I HMX-1 MCAF Quantico VA)-w/Millville Radio (255.4) over DOV & filing flt plan for departure from KVCN (unid) to KBDR (Igor Sikorsky Airport Bridgeport CT) with alternate of KHVN (New Haven Airport CT).
0930- Evac 80112 (KC-135T # 58-0112 PA ANG 171ARW Pittsburgh PA)-depart ADW then ADS-B shows heading northwest towards Pittsburgh.
0939- Tester 11 (T-38C # 688158 NTPS PAX)-w/BW (270.8) for vertical maneuvering test at FL100-FL200. Also w/NTPS Ops (123.2)
1005- Marine 767 (UC-35D # 166767 MAW-4 ADW)-depart ADW then ADS-B shows heading northeast at FL330.
1029- ADS-B shows Castle 10 (C-130H # 84-0210 143rd AS DE ANG New Castle DE) departing New Castle and heading east.
1032- Royal 33 (C-17A # 07-7176 436th AMW/3rd AS DOV)-w/ZDC Snow Hill (132.55)
1243- Raven 01 flt (Two MD ANG A-10Cs 104th FS MTN)-working on discrete (266.6). Flt leader giving familiarization flt in PAX areas. After familiarization Raven flt w/BW (256.5) & Wardog 01 (OA-10C 104th FS MD ANG MTN) in CAS training w/GBU-28s, GBU-32s, GBU-54s & laser rockets.
1250- ADS-B shows Warlock 8 (P-3C # 158912 VX-20 PAX) working in PAX restricted areas
1303- ADS-B shows Decoy 99 (C-17A # 89-1190 167th AS WVA ANG Martinsburg WVA) in patterns at Martinsburg prior to landing.
1305- DeeCee 21 (KC-135R # 63-3556 756th ARS ADW)-w/Liberator CP (351.2) w/inbound msg.
1310- Acft 122 (prob Salty Dog 122 F-18F # 166868, VX-23 PAX)-on test discrete (267.0) w/Score 30 (KC-130R # 163310 VX-20 PAX).
1530- SPAR 28 (C-37 # 01-0028 6th AMW/310th AS MacDill AFB FL)-depart ADW then ADS-B shows heading south.
1540- Tester 10 (T-38C # 158198 NTPS PAX)-w/BW (270.8) reporting test complete & RTB "course rules".
1555- Navy 400 (C-37 # 166377 VR-1 ADW)-depart ADW then w/ZDC Calvert (133.9). ADS-B shows heading south.
1607- Tester 24 (T-6B # 166060 NTPS PAX)-w/BW (270.8) requesting direct RTB PAX to beat wx buildup.
1612- Musel 8 (UH-1 1st Helo Sqdn ADW)-land at ADW.
1630- SAM 209 (C-20B # 86-0203 99th AS ADW)-land at ADW.
1640- ADS-B shows Opec 76 (KC-10A # 84-0186 305th AMW WRI) land at WRI.
1745- ADS-B shows Force 05 (KC-10A # 86-0027 305th AMW WRI) approaching WRI for landing.
1800- Venus 07 (C-32A # 09-0015 1st AS ADW)-land at ADW.

 

[freqhopping]

Anybody follow the Atlantic City airshow today?

Looks like one performer on the way home currently. N104MX (still using former code for N181RU). Registered to South Riding, VA. I'm wondering if he's heading to KJYO. Earlier I did hear someone getting a clearance from KACY to KJYO. N540JH was another MXS that was there.

Midday I saw AE542B showing "11" doing 362kts @1400 ft near KACY. While landing it sounded like "DOUBLE11". A USMC MV-22 was scheduled for the show around this time. Later I clearly heard an ELVIS11 departing. Helicopter-like noise in the background. Never saw AE542B show up again on adsbexchange.

WARDOG1 flight of two from MTN included 79-0120

 

[maus92]

Midday I saw AE542B showing "11" doing 362kts @1400 ft near KACY. While landing it sounded like "DOUBLE11". A USMC MV-22 was scheduled for the show around this time. Later I clearly heard an ELVIS11 departing. Helicopter-like noise in the background. Never saw AE542B show up again on adsbexchange.

362kts at essentially SL is pretty damn fast for a -22... maybe it had a 100kt tailwind?

 

[Mark]

1538 local EMPIRE 11 flight of 2 headed home to Oceana I presume.
Assume they were F/18F demo and backup.

Not much on tape here today.. No Heavy flybys in show like C-5M or C-17 or KC-10
or Bombers.. Guess they are all to busy these days.. Mostly State of NJ show and NJ ANG.
I'm sure all the Medevac chopper flybys had crowd on edge..LOL

 

[mdmonitor]

1000 hours EDT- ADS-B showing EMARSS1 (AE4C63 EMARSSM1 Hawker Beechcraft Corp MC-12W Liberty- #000737) having departed near Hagerstown MD then orbiting in the Lancaster PA area.

Some encrypted comms noted on 267.35

 

[BM82557]

1000 hours EDT- ADS-B showing EMARSS1 (AE4C63 EMARSSM1 Hawker Beechcraft Corp MC-12W Liberty- #000737) having departed near Hagerstown MD then orbiting in the Lancaster PA area.

Some encrypted comms noted on 267.35

AE5C92 CROOK29 also up from HGR, orbiting from HGR to Holidaysburg PA to Berkeley Springs WV, maybe another MC12W

 

[Mark]

1000 hours EDT- ADS-B showing EMARSS1 (AE4C63 EMARSSM1 Hawker Beechcraft Corp MC-12W Liberty- #000737) having departed near Hagerstown MD then orbiting in the Lancaster PA area.

Some encrypted comms noted on 267.35

Yes logged (AE5C92) CROOK29 here today finally as well.. History shows as new tail since June.
Confusing all the MC-12 variants the Army is working on with L-3,Boeing,Sierra Nevada etc..
Seems we have 4 types the Army is prototyping for eventual 24 of these types
L-3 Reports First Flight of Emarss-M Prototype for U.S. Army | Defense News: Aviation International News

Emarss-M First Test bird down at L-3 Texas converted from the MC-12W for 8 total.
Emarss-S Four total Boeing mod
Emarss-V Four total Northrop Grumman mod
Emarss-G Eight total Sierra Nevada/L3 mod?

Ron's M1 seems to be the M type converted from MC-12W but the CROOK29 may be another type.
Name "Liberty" was USAF MC-12W type when they owned them before turning them over to the Army.
No more Liberty MC-12's.All US Army show now

 

[freqhopping]

I wonder if N65FM (FM-65) and N164FM (FM-64) could be some of the new activity. I logged both on July 15.
Adsbexchange shows the last activity for N164FM as a flight from Kansas to MD on July 15.

These are new planes with certificates issued in January.


Another new one to watch is N166FM FM-66 which is still registered to Textron and no cert date yet.

An L-3 registered one that hasn't shown up in a while is N352BC FL-463. http://www.jetphotos.net/photo/7182344
Could it have a mil hex now?

 

[freqhopping]

C-32B 99-6143 passing through. METS59. Heard ZDC talking to them on 126.875 but they must be on another freq. Direct ENE (Kennebunk).
2330- to ZNY 132.2, passing over Baltimore.

 

[mdmonitor]

Guys,

Some pics from a friend who was at Delaware Coastal Airport the other day:

 

[mdmonitor]

A few more pics from Georgetown:

 

[BM82557]

Yes logged (AE5C92) CROOK29 here today finally as well.. History shows as new tail since June.
Confusing all the MC-12 variants the Army is working on with L-3,Boeing,Sierra Nevada etc..
Seems we have 4 types the Army is prototyping for eventual 24 of these types
L-3 Reports First Flight of Emarss-M Prototype for U.S. Army | Defense News: Aviation International News

Emarss-M First Test bird down at L-3 Texas converted from the MC-12W for 8 total.
Emarss-S Four total Boeing mod
Emarss-V Four total Northrop Grumman mod
Emarss-G Eight total Sierra Nevada/L3 mod?

Ron's M1 seems to be the M type converted from MC-12W but the CROOK29 may be another type.
Name "Liberty" was USAF MC-12W type when they owned them before turning them over to the Army.
No more Liberty MC-12's.All US Army show now

CROOK29 is active this morning orbiting just west of HGR. I noted another post on CROOK29 here - http://forums.radioreference.com/mi...maryland-pennsylvania-border.html#post2629410

 

[Mark]

A few more pics from Georgetown:

Nice pics Ron,Seems you have 2 different Navy T-45 trainer squadrons there.
Playboy ears from VX-9 China Lake.. Long way from home and
one T-45 from the VFA-106 Gladiators from down the road in Oceana.
Very nice!

 

[mdmonitor]

Nice pics Ron,Seems you have 2 different Navy T-45 trainer squadrons there.
Playboy ears from VX-9 China Lake.. Long way from home and
one T-45 from the VFA-106 Gladiators from down the road in Oceana.
Very nice!

Mark,

I thought the VX-9 bird was a strange one to be up this way. It too maybe from Oceana?

Now that you mention it on that day a couple of times I heard a female voice ident as ???U (never could hear it correctly) on w/ZDC Snow Hill (132.55) get a flt clearance to Oceana. Must've been the VFA-106 bird

 

[Mark]

The VFA-106 T-45 seems like squad aggressor trainer with that Red star on it..
T-45 Goshawks rare around here as most train down in NAS Kingsville Texas or Meridian Miss.but these two seem like odd test squad exceptions also without normal red/white paint schemes.

This morning heard TEAM 63 KC-10 with McGuire CP coming South looking for Raven 1-4 flight.
Guess our local A-10's getting some KC-10 boom practices for upcoming deployment next Month.
They sure have been busy training lately.

 

[freqhopping]

Those aren't T-45s. They're private L-39Cs. N55107 and N150XX

 

[Mark]

Those aren't T-45s. They're private L-39Cs. N55107 and N150XX

Interesting that they can have Navy logos like VX-9 and VFA-106 on private planes..
Thanks for clearing these up..
Aircraft N150XX (1980 Aero L-39C Albatros C/N 031617) Photo by Florida Metal (Photo ID: AC1206545)
You can just see real tail number N150XX under rear tail wing.
Yup in better close up pics you can see real tail ID.. Had me going but am not Navy expert for sure.. Good eyes there Hop.
http://img.planespotters.net/media/photos/original/065000/PlanespottersNet_065092.jpg

 

[Airboss]

1000 hours EDT- ADS-B showing EMARSS1 (AE4C63 EMARSSM1 Hawker Beechcraft Corp MC-12W Liberty- #000737) having departed near Hagerstown MD then orbiting in the Lancaster PA area. Some encrypted comms noted on 267.35

Morning all and you to Ron. ;-)

267.350 is a known US Army SASS Grisly Hunter Project frequency in the mid-Atlantic region (MD/VA), though it is assigned to the USN/USMC nationwide.

Recently another Mode-S hex code AE5C8E has been seen using the Mode-S call Grizly 78 out in Arizona. One possible tie up has it as 15-00338 a US Army RO-6A (Dash-8 variant) that may also be part of the Grisly Hunter project. Two other aircraft have also been spotted in Tucson 50048 and 500558. Take that with all the EMARSS activity being seen in your area and down the coast at Hunter AAF and it looks like the Army is ramping up some fixed wing air recon assets.

Good article on all that on the FAS.org website at Airborne Reconnaissance Low (ARL)

Chief

 

[Mark]

Yes have logged the Grzlys a few times..Always come up as Army DH8C Dash 8 types.
The older ones still flying with Civy reg under Dynamic Aviation Lease mainly overseas.
Rarely hang around here in Mid-Atlantic.
US Army supposed to have 6 more in the pipeline..prob the (AE5C8E) #15-0038 is one of them.
US Army To Get Six DHC-8 Aircrafts

BTW Larry some McGuire KC-10's headed down coast your way this morning 1300z full tracking mode s.
SPUR 72 will rtb McGuire due to Maint issue and clears off.
SPUR 71,81 move on and doing random A/R boom tests together
up with ZDC Ctr Norfolk Va 133.825 1310z and A/A boom squad freq 268.025

 

[Airboss]

BTW Larry some McGuire KC-10's headed down coast your way this morning 1300z full tracking mode s.
SPUR 72 will rtb McGuire due to Maint issue and clears off.
SPUR 71,81 move on and doing random A/R boom tests together
up with ZDC Ctr Norfolk Va 133.825 1310z and A/A boom squad freq 268.025

Yea, Army fixed wing aviation and studying them using ADS-B can be interesting but problematic and challenging. I do love a challenge.

And thanks Mark for the heads up above. Got the 436 up, running and scanning using my Milair favorite list this morning. If they move through here the old chief will hear them. ;-)