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[BM82557]

Activity 05022007

1016 - MUSSEL 06 to Martinsburg tower reporting 8 miles to the east requesting a low approach, tower clears the approach at or above 1100' - 124.3
1018 - MUSSEL 06 inbound for low approach, 3 miles to the east - 124.3
1021 - MUSSEL 06 departing the area to the south - 124.3
1024 - MUSSEL 06 clear of the airspace, freq change approved - 124.3

 

[TinEar]

Good Morning everyone on this beautiful warm day...

10:15am: I am picking up some activity on 143.60 and, 139.90. Still figuring out who is out there flying.

I have:
Tanker XX?
Fighter Jet 1
Fighter Jet 2

No doubt those were DC-ANG F-16s just based on the freqs. I didn't have the radios on that early so apparently missed them since they don't seem to be up now. Since they were with SOF on 139.9, that probably indicated they were on the way home giving in-flight reports.

There is a ton of F-22A activity going to and coming from Giant Killer's W-386 area. They are being heard with Norfolk TRACON 370.925 and GK's 249.8. (The freq references are "Push 5" for 370.925 and "Push 7" for 249.8.) GK's tactical freqs should all be busy too.
And at 1047 I heard a MOVER 31 (KC-10A McGuire) entering W-386 on 118.125 so expect some AR activity with those F-22s.
1051: RODEO 61-64 F-22s in W-386 w/Giant Killer...249.8
Adding RODEO to F-22A Langley callsign list.
1051: There is some interesting activity on Pax freq 350.9...high speed maneuvers...no callsigns but he's testing something...worth a listen. Reports working at FL 350 at 1056
1053: KEVLAR 61-62 F-22s check into W-386 w/GK...say they'd like to work MARSA with VIKING (more F-22s)...249.8
1055: NJ-ANG F-16s up on interflight 138.425
1057: EVAC 3520 reports airborne from Andrews at 1455Z...378.1 (This is a KC-135R, tail 62-3520, Grand Forks AFB ND)
1059: CRAB 11 (C-130J, 98-1355) and CRAB 12 (C-130J, 98-1356) both up in the Martin State area...climbing out...385.9

1103: Warren Grove Range active...283.1 (Probably CT-ANG A-10s...I heard a YANKEE flight with ZNY a few minutes earlier flying toward that area)
1107: Belgian Air Force 613 (C-130, tail CH-05, 20 Squadron) to Andrews CP...arrival msg...IDs as a C-130, has 5 empty pallets to offload (to be loaded at ADW) and 1 pallet with 4,000 pounds...will RON at ADW...141.55

Out of time...have to leave unfortunately in the middle of some great activity of all types.

 

[CitationJet]

04.30-05.01.2007

Hi guys,

A few from earlier this week...

04.30.2007

1412Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - REACH 151T - deps ADW to 17000' QSY 118.675.
1440Z 119.850 Potomac APP - PAT 587 - @ 6000' req. vis to rwy 32 at Davison AAF. QSY DAA TWR 126.300.
1446Z 119.850 Potomac APP - COAST GUARD 102 (C-143A 02) - @ 10000' for the app to DCA.

2238Z 128.425 IAD TWR West - OPEN SKIES 44T (OC-135 61-2672) - deps rwy 30 QSY 126.650.

2330Z 120.100 IAD TWR East - GERMAN AIR FORCE 817 (A310 10+21) - deps rwy 1R QSY 125.050.

05.01.2007

1057Z 119.850 Potomac APP - NAVY 7C 417 (UC-12B NAS Oceana NFD) - @ 6000' expect ILS rwy 32 at Davison AAF.

 

[Waltz41]

Last night (~2010) I had a visual on a single F/A-18 departing Willow Grove. Just wondering if anyone picked him up passing through the area.

This aircraft might have arrived on Saturday...I was working in the basement when I heard the distinct sound of a fighter jet coming by. I didn't make it up the steps in time to see it.

Ok...so that's what I heard. I did some looking around, but didn't see anything. Too late to turn on the scanner too. Darn...missed 'em!!!

 

[Mark]

YANKEE 03 C-21 84-0103 arrive Andrews...
Heard a couple of these C-21's lately..Is this a Scott AFB callsign or someone else using this callsign?
Sure not Langley C-21's using that callsign..LOL

Mark

 

[ScanManQSL]

8:15ish.............There is a fightet jet flying really low in the rockville area just now. Unable to make a visual but I have that loud distinctive jet sound that last forever.

I thought it was a scrabble but apparently not.

 

[TinEar]

YANKEE 03 C-21 84-0103 arrive Andrews...
Heard a couple of these C-21's lately..Is this a Scott AFB callsign or someone else using this callsign?
Sure not Langley C-21's using that callsign..LOL

Mark

Hey Mark...good to see you back. You haven't posted in a bit.

Those YANKEE C-21As are from Bradley....or is it Barnes? I can't keep those two units straight. I know that callsign has been used for years at Bradley for their A-10s but can't remember if the new mission with the C-21As is at Bradley or Barnes.

What time did he come in Mark? The reason I ask is that I heard a C-21 around 1500 from in the other room and never heard his callsign. I was waiting for it but I must have missed the first part of his transmission.

2103: VADER 41 calling SHORTSTOP at Willow Grove...x2, no joy...351.75 (Probably a C-130H from the 757th Airlift Squadron AFRC in Ohio) (Confirmed over an hour later when he leaves Willow Grove as C-130H, tail 85-0041)
2136: OPEC 39 (KC-10A McGuire) to McGuire CP with arrival message...about 20 minutes out, A-2...says they had a violent breakaway with a KC-135 and the airplane is intact....319.4

 

[Waltz41]

Hey Mark...good to see you back. You haven't posted in a bit.

Those YANKEE C-21As are from Bradley....or is it Barnes? I can't keep those two units straight. I know that callsign has been used for years at Bradley for their A-10s but can't remember if the new mission with the C-21As is at Bradley or Barnes.

It's Bradley, CT ANG. They have just began the transition to the C-21 from the A-10s. I think they only have one or two though C-21s last I heard. They painted the black and yellow lightning bolt on the tail of the C-21s just like their A-10's one version had. Barnes is getting F-15s if I recall.

 

[Mark]

Hey Mark...good to see you back. You haven't posted in a bit.

Those YANKEE C-21As are from Bradley....or is it Barnes? I can't keep those two units straight. I know that callsign has been used for years at Bradley for their A-10s but can't remember if the new mission with the C-21As is at Bradley or Barnes.

What time did he come in Mark? The reason I ask is that I heard a C-21 around 1500 from in the other room and never heard his callsign. I was waiting for it but I must have missed the first part of his transmission.

Rgr TIN around 1500 and figured maybe a Mass callsign.I recall some C-130's and A-10's from
up that way using that callsign.New England callsign no doubt...LOL
I last heard some C-21 assets getting shifted to Reserve units.

Those C-21's getting old fast.Guess will be retiring them someday soon.
Remember when Lears were the cream of the crop? but almost ancient today compared to Gulfstreams etc.
Been busy here myself but also fairly quiet lately with Milcoms except routine stuff like CAP's.Even Dover C-5's and A-10's have been slow after rush a couple weeks ago.
Must be lull before things pickup soon.

Looking forward to Air show season this Month.
Andrews again for sure and may make McGuire show also weather and schedule permitting.My camera is itching to get some good Mil pics.

Mark

 

[TinEar]

Yeah, as Waltz41 confirmed, the YANKEE C-21s are from Bradley. I remembered reading it in one of their publications (Yankee Courier at Bradley and Airscoop at Barnes). I had to look it up to satisfy my own curiosity. Here's a link to Bradley's Yankee Courier where they announce the arrival of the C-21 to their mission....
http://www.ctbrad.ang.af.mil/courier/Yankee_Courier.pdf
The picture there is of the one you logged...84-0103

2204: DC 32 (KC-135R, 62-3543, 756th ARS Andrews) to LIBERATOR with arrival msg...25 minutes out, A-2, has 30K on the fuel, needs parking spot...378.1

During the day, had three foreign air force aircraft into the area...
Belgian Air Force 613, a C-130
German Air Force, a C-160
Royal Air Force, an E-3D

 

[Mark]

Reviewing tape from last night at around 2000 local have OPEC 39 with Dover CP
"looking for status of tankers BACKY 33 and 34 out of Seymour Johnson."

At 2145 OPEC 39 with McGuire CP inbound alpha 2 and mentions we had
very violent incident with back of KC-135."The airplane did impact".
Guess they had a rough AR with one of the BACKY's.

Mark

 

[Mark]

June 4th is the big day for Dover AFB..

Dover stands up new C-17 maintenance squadron

by Tech. Sgt. Kevin Wallace
436th AW Public Affairs

5/1/2007 - DOVER AIR FORCE BASE, Del. -- The 736th Aircraft Maintenance Squadron stood up Monday in an assumption-of-command ceremony at the Air Mobility Command Museum here.

The 736th AMXS will be responsible for maintaining the C-17 Globemaster IIIs, scheduled to start arriving this summer.

"This is all very, very exciting, yet humbling," said Lt. Col. Raymond Briggs, the new 736th AMXS commander, who assumed command in a combined 736th AMXS Assumption-of-Command ceremony and 3rd Airlift Squadron Change-of-Command ceremony here. "I'm excited by the energy here and the teamwork. Dover is 100 percent about the team."

Lt. Col. Keith Thibodeaux assumed command of the 3rd AS from Lt. Col. Michael Webb. The 3rd AS is now exclusively a C-17 squadron and flew their last C-5 flight March 14.

The combined ceremony was very unique, said Col. Sam Cox, 436th Airlift Wing commander. It was planned to highlight Dover's 'teamwork' message.

By nature of being a combined active duty and Reserve base, the Airmen of Team Dover are engrained with the concepts of teamwork and unity. From the top wing leadership down, these concepts are emphasized.

"The first C-17 is scheduled to arrive here June 4," said Colonel Cox. "When combined with the C-5s here, they will provide all new dimensions of capability to Team Dover."

 

[CitationJet]

05.02-03.2007

Hi,

A few to post this morning...

05.02.2007

1955Z 120.100 IAD TWR East - PAT 318 (C-12T 87-0160 OSACOM Det.49 TX ArNG) - lands rwy 1R.

05.03.2007

1057Z 119.850 Potomac APP - PAT 1202 (C-12T 85-1268 VA RFC Davison) - @ 6000' @ OJJAY for rwy 32 @ Davison AAF.

1100Z 139.400 Davison AAF Ops - PAT 1202 (C-12T 85-1268 VA RFC Davison) - 10 mins. out req. fuel tail #268.
1105Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 1202 (C-12T 85-1268 VA RFC Davison) - left base visual rwy 32 gear down full stop.

 

[TinEar]

I just read at military.com that the testing for the F-35B and C (Marines and Navy models) is going to take place at Patuxent. They also mentioned that the B model for the Marines has moved to the top of the priority list because it has the greatest need - replacing the old Harriers. That'll be interesting listening once it begins.

 

[DPD1]

I just read at military.com that the testing for the F-35B and C (Marines and Navy models) is going to take place at Patuxent. They also mentioned that the B model for the Marines has moved to the top of the priority list because it has the greatest need - replacing the old Harriers. That'll be interesting listening once it begins.

I think they might be a little optimistic with their timetable... I believe the first Edwards A model was supposed to have been delivered by October... Still waiting. Once they do though, you'll probably also get visits by the joint manufacture test bed, CatBird 1. I think a lot of the individual systems have already been tested using other airframes, so that might speed things up a little.

Dave
http://www.dpdproductions.com
- Custom Scanner, Aviation, MURS, GMRS, Marine & Ham Antennas -

 

[TinEar]

I think they might be a little optimistic with their timetable... I believe the first Edwards A model was supposed to have been delivered by October... Still waiting. Once they do though, you'll probably also get visits by the joint manufacture test bed, CatBird 1. I think a lot of the individual systems have already been tested using other airframes, so that might speed things up a little.

Dave
http://www.dpdproductions.com
- Custom Scanner, Aviation, MURS, GMRS, Marine & Ham Antennas -

A timetable slip is a given in all government manufacturing contracts so, yes Dave, I would expect that schedule to slip considerably. I don't understand the reference to "CatBird 1" though. The only CATBIRD 1 I've heard is the callsign for the C-20A that flies the CINC, U.S. Naval Forces Europe. Are you saying there's another bird using that same callsign? It was just at Andrews last week.

 

[DPD1]

CatBird 1 is the name they use for the new JSF heavy test bed they just finished a few months back. It was mostly modified by BAE at Mojave. It will most likely be bouncing back and forth between Fort Worth, Edwards and Pax during the main testing. It's similar to the test bed that Boeing used for the 22. Here's a shot that Alan Radecki got:

http://www.thenorthspin.com/photos_people_alan_r/44.jpg

There's more shots of it on his page, on my North Spin site. And yes, they use the call CatBird 1. I've heard them working over the water a few times already.

Dave
The North Spin - Dedicated to Aircraft Flight Test for the Aviation Enthusiast
http://www.thenorthspin.com

 

[TinEar]

CatBird 1 is the name they use for the new JSF heavy test bed they just finished a few months back. It was mostly modified by BAE at Mojave. It will most likely be bouncing back and forth between Fort Worth, Edwards and Pax during the main testing. It's similar to the test bed that Boeing used for the 22. Here's a shot that Alan Radecki got:

http://www.thenorthspin.com/photos_people_alan_r/44.jpg

There's more shots of it on his page, on my North Spin site. And yes, they use the call CatBird 1. I've heard them working over the water a few times already.

Dave
The North Spin - Dedicated to Aircraft Flight Test for the Aviation Enthusiast
http://www.thenorthspin.com

Dave, your "The North Spin" site is one hell of a nice job! I wish I had known about that sooner - much sooner. You've got some items there very applicable to Patuxent which can help us identify some of the strange stuff we hear on their freqs. It's very difficult to identify what you hear coming from Patuxent because the callsigns are all so similar. So, the only way to ID them would be to recognize the type activity they're performing - and it still won't be easy. Your site should help that effort though. Very nice work you've done there.

Alan

 

[andy3315]

Last night (~2010) I had a visual on a single F/A-18 departing Willow Grove. Just wondering if anyone picked him up passing through the area.

This aircraft might have arrived on Saturday...I was working in the basement when I heard the distinct sound of a fighter jet coming by. I didn't make it up the steps in time to see it.

The F-18 That Was In On Saturday Was A Canadian Hornet Not Sure When He Came In But He Left Saturday Was Doing Yard Work When I Saw Him, And The Hornet The Other Day Was Roman07 Supper Hornet. He Did One GCA Approach With With Willow Grove And Got His Clearence To KACY Then Who Knows Who Knows Where He Went After He Went To KACY, Probably Back To KNTU

 

[BM82557]

Activity 05032007

Didn't have much time to listen today but did here the following this morning:

0945 - DC ANG (multiple ac) was already active on 143.15 when I turned the scanner on
1003 - 2 (maybe more) ac, sounded like interflight, chatter ended with "monitor the Eagle" - 254.20