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[CitationJet]

09/14/2006

1247Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - ARMY 1944 (C-37A (97)-1944) - deps ADW to 11000' QSY 121.050.
1253Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - MARINE 101 (C-37) - deps ADW dir AML to 13000'.
1255Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - ARMY 1778 (C-37B 04-1778) - deps ADW QSY 118.675.

1304Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - BOXER 65 (201st AS DC ANG) - for the option 19L. QSY 119.3 and shoots mult. apps.
1314Z 126.300 Dahlgren Naval Surface Warfare Center Ops - ARMY 18242 (C-12R) - requesting call to number ###-###-#### passing ETA Dahlgren 0930L. Then apologizes to
DAA TWR for stepping on them due to the fact that Dahlgren shares this freq.
1319Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - MARINE 488 () - deps ADW QSY 121.050.
1324Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 396 () - o/s DAVEY for the ILS 32. Going missed app due firetruck crossing runway,
QSY 118.950 then 124.7 for the missed.
1329Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 28 (UH-60 Davison) - to 5000' join V286.
1334Z 141.550 NAVY 7W 226 (UC-12B 161511 NAS JRB Willow Grove) - 15 mins out for VIP pickup #161511.

1403Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - REACH 466T () - deps ADW.

1650Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 1264 (C-12T 85-1264 OSACOM VA RFC Davison) - executing missed app.

1708Z 378.100 SAM CP Andrews - SAM 0516 () - clg no joy.
1714Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - JOSA 547 (C-21A) - deps ADW to 18000' QSY 118.675.
1734Z 378.100 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - SAM 0621 () - dep time 1720Z ETD 2020Z.
1735Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - SAM 0621 () - deps ADW to 11000'.

1819Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - TUFF 40 (B-52H Barksdale) - deps ADW dir FLUKY QSY 121.050 then 121.675.
1830Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - JOSA 221 (C-21A) - deps ADW dir GINYA QSY 121.675.
1834Z 141.550 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - JOSA 221 (C-21A) - pass t/off time of 1825Z to TACC.
1847Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - SUNNY 409 (UC-12B) - DAVEY inbound for rwy 32.

1915Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - GUARD 21678 (UH-1) - Springfield request special VFR transition I-95 southbound.
1915Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 888 () - deps ??? dir DEALE.
1951Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PLF 102 (Tu-154 101 Polish AF) - deps ADW dir AML.

2014Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - AIR FORCE 2 (C-32A 89th AW) - deps ADW dir LDN.
2024Z 120.650 ZDC-Linden - KING 79 (C-130H Patrick) - QSYs to 133.275 then read back
another frequency ending in 2 so maybe he went over to ZDC-Bay 133.2.

 

[TinEar]

1302: Langley tac freq 257.075 active with F-22A activity. Did I already report this one? Yes - the DEEJAY flight come to think of it.
1304: The F-22A ACM activity on 228.45 is up around 34,000 feet. It's a flight of three, two against one.
[One tipoff of F-22A activity, other than the distinctive transmitter sound, is that they like to report speed in mach numbers rather than knots.]
1306: DEEJAY 23 tells GK he's ready to RTB from W-386E at this time. 238.1...routing is Snow Hill, Cape Charles, ???? direct.
1311: DEEJAY 23 handed off to ZDC-Cape Charles 256.8 where he reports leaving FL 210 for 200 direct Snow Hill.
1314: DEEJAY 23 would like to change to direct Cape Charles for wx. 256.8
1315: DEEJAY 21 leaves GK on 238.1 and is handed to ZDC-Cape Charles 256.8 at FL 200 direct Snow Hill
1315: HOVER 41 calling Giant Killer 238.1
The F-22A aircraft, when switching to Giant Killer's 238.1 freq always give the "Push 7" command.
1317: DEEJAY 23 leaving FL 200 for 10,000 feet. 256.8
1318: DEEJAY 21 requests 2 mile non-standard formation for himself and 22. Reports direct Cape Charles. 256.8
1319: TROJAN 51 flight calls GK to report RTB. 238.1
1320: DEEJAY 23 flight handed off to Norfolk TRACON 370.925
1321: DEEJAY 21 flight cleared from FL 200 to 17,000. 256.8
1322: DEEJAY 21 flight with Langley SOF on 383.2
1322: DEEJAY 21 flight has been working the 228.45 flight for tac and ACM (finally figured out who was using it)...earlier all three of them were on 257.075 on their way to W-386.
1323: DEEJAY 21 flight "Push 5" while on 256.8 and come up with Norfolk TRACON 370.925 for further descent heading for Langley.
1344: MARINE 206 with Andrews Approach 119.3
1344: TROJAN 21 flight (Langley) with Norfolk 370.925 and then "push 7" and off to Giant Killer on 238.1 to enter W-386 G-J on mission V-1434 for the next 30 minutes. (I thought the HOVER and TROJAN flights earlier might be F-15s rather than F-22As because I never heard them loud enough to hear the distinctive F-22A sound. This time it seems to be there so I'm moving this callsign to the F-22A list and no longer have the question mark about HOVER going back to F-15 use. It won't matter much longer when everything at Langley will be F-22A...he said hopefully.)
1349: BATON 51 (EC-130J 193rd SOG, PA-ANG Harrisburg) to Baton Ops on 395.1 with arrival message.
1351: BICEP 11 (F-16 NJ-ANG Atlantic City) with ACY Approach 327.125 cancelling IFR.
1353: Langley tac 233.525 active with F-22A activity....might be the TROJAN flight.
1354: BICEP 11 flight with Giant Killer on 255.0 for entry into area W-107.
1355: GK's ops freq 312.3 active.
1358: Yet more PRIDEs...now it's PRIDE 31 (F/A-18 VFA-15 Oceana NAS), flight of two, with ZDC-Gordonsville 351.9.
I've never heard this callsign in this area and suddenly they are all over the place.

Everything is getting quiet now so....

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Break time...back later.

 

[TinEar]

Thought I was on break but heard this....
1415: U/I aircraft probably from Pax on the normal SALTY DOG freq of 250.7 with a problem. Believe he used suffix 205 but not sure if that was his number or of another aircraft with him. He asks other aircraft in the area to escort him home. Says something about trying an airborne restart but it won't work. A couple of minutes later he tells a ground station that he's going to have the "Prowler" escort him.
1418: DEEJAY 23 into GK's area on 238.1 to work W-386 for 20 minutes.
1418: BICEP 11 flight with SOF on 138.125
1420: Langley tac 257.075 active with DEEJAY flight
1422: The aircraft with the problem on 250.7 says he's going to begin dumping gas...the escort says he's going to follow him right down to the runway.
1423: One of the aircraft from 250.7 goes to BayWatch on 270.8 to announce the RTB action. He identifies the problem guy as SALTY DOG 205 and himself as SALTY DOG 534. That should make 534 the Prowler.
1423: HOVER 41 flight into GK's W-386 MARSA with TROJAN flight on 238.1
All these Langley guys are also with Norfolk on 370.925 and Cape Charles 256.8 as they head out to W-386
1431: SALTY DOG 534 with Pax Approach on 305.2 to announce he's going to drop off his wingman (SD 205) and then return to radar. He repeats the message a couple of times.
1433: SALTY DOG 534 getting vectors on 305.2 to the runway. SALTY DOG 205 with the problem hasn't said a word...guess he's just trying to get his jet home.
That seemed to be the last heard from the jet with the problem. He probably made it in okay since there was no chat on any Pax freq about crashes/problems at the runway, etc. Caught 534 a few minutes later back on 270.8 (radar that he mentioned) and everything sounded normal.
1434: GK's ops freq 391.2 active...mention of the HOVER flight here.
1441: Somewhere along the line here, DEEJAY 21, flight of two, entered GK's area again on 238.1 following DEEJAY 23. He's ready to RTB and climbing from 12 to 20,000 feet.
Leaving W-386, the Langley aircraft are routing Snow Hill, Cape Charles and then somewhere that sounds like TURIN before Langley. I can't find it at Airnav in the airborne fix section and haven't really had time to search thoroughly for it. Can anyone save me the trouble?
1449: AERO 21 flight (F-16 NJ-ANG) with Giant Killer on 255.0 for work in W-107. Tac appears to be 138.875.
1450: TROJAN 51 reports RTB to Giant Killer on 238.1
1458: SALTY DOG 405 descending for landing with Pax Approach on 305.2 (not SD 205).

1501: TESTER 16 with BayWatch 354.8...says he's leaving for 2 minutes to talk with tower...comes back and is descending. Switches to 305.2 for Approach at 1503...leaving 14,000 for 4,000 feet.
1502: Northrup Grumman test flight freq 123.2 active.

Okay...I'm worn out...enough for now.

 

[Mateo]

Thought I was on break but heard this....
1441: Somewhere along the line here, DEEJAY 21, flight of two, entered GK's area again on 238.1 following DEEJAY 23. He's ready to RTB and climbing from 12 to 20,000 feet.
Leaving W-386, the Langley aircraft are routing Snow Hill, Cape Charles and then somewhere that sounds like TURIN before Langley. I can't find it at Airnav in the airborne fix section and haven't really had time to search thoroughly for it. Can anyone save me the trouble?

There's a TURET which is an initial approach fix for the HI-TACAN and HI-ILS approaches to Langley. It's on the LFI 110 radial, 28 DME. Crossing altitude is 12,000.

 

[TinEar]

There's a TURET which is an initial approach fix for the HI-TACAN and HI-ILS approaches to Langley. It's on the LFI 110 radial, 28 DME. Crossing altitude is 12,000.

Thanks Mateo...much appreciated. That's got to be it. This is the first day I've ever heard them use that fix.

Additional info on the TREND 87 and 88 I had arriving at Andrews this morning shows them to be F-16s. I was informed that TREND 87 had tail number 85-1486 and belongs to the 175th FS, SD-ANG and TREND 88 was tail 86-0234 belonging to the 107th FS, MI-ANG. They were probably stragglers from the group mentioned below. Either that or they'll go out tomorrow under another group using TREND 81-88.
Edit: I'm told 87/88 were just airspares so they won't be going anywhere (except maybe back to their units) since 97/98 made it all the way.

Sometime early this morning in the 0600 hour, there was a flight of eight ANG F-16s that departed Andrews for duty in Iraq. I don't know the units they belonged to for sure, however, they worked 139.15 for air-to-air which more than likely made them part of the DC-ANG. They met up with tanker GOLD 41 for the trip across the Atlantic. Their callsigns were TREND 91-98. They left before I logged on - even though I was especially early this morning. Early for me, that is.
Edit: I thought I remembered recently reading that the DC-ANG was heading for Iraq. I searched and found the story again from a couple of weeks ago on the WUSA web site:
The District of Columbia Air National Guard's 113th Wing is preparing for a major overseas deployment of over 300 personnel, including F-16 Fighting Falcon pilots, maintenance and support personnel.

F-16 aircraft from the 121st Fighter Squadron and other Air National Guard units from around the country, including Sioux Falls, S.D., Syracuse, N.Y., and Selfridge, Mich. will combine to form what is known as a "rainbow deployment," to fight the Global War on Terrorism.
I logged some FAST F-16s from Syracuse coming into Andrews last week that were no doubt part of the deployment too.

Also confirmed that the CUBE 91 ad 92 I logged yesterday were EA-6B Prowlers from VAQ-209 at Andrews coming home from Iraq via Moron, Spain. There are three more due to return that are somewhere between Iraq and Spain.

 

[gcgrotz]

Tin, Mateo:

They've recently changed some fixes around here. One was FIXAD on the CHO ILS3 approach and I heard another one the other day but didn't write it down.

Thanks for the tip on the Cobra speaker. Just what I need for my FT100 ham rig, it doesn't have a headphone jack and the speaker is tinytiny.

 

[CitationJet]

09/15/2006

1303Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 1268 (C-12T 85-1268 OSACOM VA RFC Davison) - going missed app.
1304Z 119.300 Potomac APP - TREND 01 () - for the ILS to 1R.
1313Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - BELGIAN AIR FORCE 620 (C-130) - deps ADW enroute STJ dir LDN QSY 118.675. Also passes requested PIREP to Andrews TWR 118.4 after dep.
1323Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - SAM 0658 () - deps ADW dir LDN QSY 123.825.
1331Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - PAT 256 (C-12) - deps DAA QSY 118.950 to 8000' initial alt. QSY 126.650.
1334Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PACER 98 (C-21A) - deps ADW.
1349Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - DC 51 Flight () - deps ADW to initial block alt 10000-11000', to 16000' dir LDN QSY 123.825. DC 52 also up.
1349Z 378.100 DC 51 clg LIBERATOR here passing t/off time of 47 past the hr.

1431Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - VENUS 31 () - deps ADW to 15000'.
1434Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - JOSA 425 (C-21A) - deps ADW to 15000'.
1438Z 141.550 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - JOSA 425 (C-21A) - dep time 1432Z.

***1458Z 119.300 Potomac APP - CHINA AIR FORCE 3701 (B737-800 3701) - @ 11000' requesting 1R. Callsign correction.***

1509Z 378.100 SAM CP Andrews - EVAC 118 (C-21A 84-0118) - off at 1501Z.
1516Z 120.650 ZDC-Linden - REACH 6105 () - FL210 - FL230.

Nothing heard since returning to lunch but what the controller on 118.950 just told a flight he was working on another freq that JFK had just shut down all arrivals...

OK, I spoke too soon...

1642Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - ARMY 5009 () - deps ADW initial alt. 2000' then to 12000'.

1729Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - BOXER 813 (201st AS DC ANG) - deps ADW dir LDN to 11000'.
1740Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 274 () - deps ADW QSY 125.65.
1743Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - EASY 374 (prob. UC-35A 166374 MASD) - deps ADW.

1813Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - JOSA 769 (C-21A) - deps ADW to 11000'.

1900Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - VENUS 41 (C-40B 01-0041) - deps ADW dir GVE to 12000'.
1955Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - ARMY 01052 (UC-35C 00-1502) - deps ADW dir FLUKY QSY 121.050.
1959Z 378.100 SAM CP Andrews - JOSA 777 (C-21A) - dep time ADW 1955Z.
1959Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - JOSA 777 (C-21A) - deps ADW dir LDN.

 

[freqhopping]

Undetermined MUSSELL flight just passing Leesburg, heading to the east. No comms heard yet.

At 1549, BOBCAT-77 was loud and clear calling Navy Ops on 122.85.

 

[Mateo]

119.3 seems to have fallen off the map. ADW arrivals today were going straight from 128.35 to tower on 118.4. Heard this afternoon from Gravelly Point

1654: -119.85- TRACK 32 vectoring for ADW. To -118.4- where he wants to set up a "4 mile initial for an overhead break to 1R."
1655: -319.4- TEAM 06 is 25 mins out from McGuire, A-1, no pax, no cargo, and 95K lbs of fuel left over.
1700: -128.35- VENUS 41 (C-40 01-0041) is vectoring for ADW [or not, see below]
1701: -378.1- JOSA 796 (C-21A) is 30 mins out, A-1, with an R-4 and an R-5 on board. Self IDed as 84-0128.
1712: -118.4- VENUS 41 wants to know if the runway's wet because he's in some pretty heavy showers on final. (Nothing more than a momentary drizzle at DCA).
1713: -118.95- ARMY 21863 (C-37 02-1863) vectoring for the climb. To 118.67.
1716: -118.95- PAT 964 is cleared for the approach to DAA and handed to 126.3.
1724: -119.85- GULFSTREAM 1 (G-IV N1 FAA seen) vectors for DCA
1730: -119.85- NAVY 3E 295 wants 2x GPS 32 at DAA and then an ILS. About 15 minutes later, a CRJ inbound over OJAAY was given a traffic pointout for a T-34. This may have been it.
1741: -378.1- ROCK 87 (C-130H 92-3287 seen) will be in the blocks at 2150z, will RON, and wants a crew bus for 7. Gave the tail# in the message [thank you!]. Available info shows ROCK as a Willow Grove call, but this Herc as a Niagara machine.
1756: -118.4- NAVY AX 174 (C-130T seen) landing 1R.
1802: -349.4- REACH 7599 (KC-135R 57-2599 Seymour Johnson) is inbound DOV with 9 people, 45K lbs of gas, and no mx writeups.
1807: -128.35- JOSA 769 vectors for arrival.
1807: -124.55- BOXER 45 vectors for climb.
1811: -124.55- "JOS, err, REACH 1" vectors for climb. To 133.75. Could this just be a C-21 whose pilot is used to calling JOSA?
1820: -118.95- ARMY #0108 direct GVE. Probably UC-35 96-0108.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: ROCK 87

1741: -378.1- ROCK 87 (C-130H 92-3287 seen) will be in the blocks at 2150z, will RON, and wants a crew bus for 7. Gave the tail# in the message [thank you!]. Available info shows ROCK as a Willow Grove call, but this Herc as a Niagara machine.

Hi Mateo,

Don't bet on it - this Herc is now a Little Rock machine thanks to BRAC 2005. Recent report from IAG found no C-130s present.

Best regards,

Tony

 

[gcgrotz]

Mateo:

I see Venus 41 in your log, He was here around 16:00 today at CHO. It is the Gulfstream with all white paint and just a small tail#. No blue and white advertising. He left here for Lynchburg 'cause CHO was getting busy like it does on football weekends.

I also saw a Navy T38 landed (something 84, I have the call in the truck) and another Navy King Air departed. All between 16-16:30.

 

[Mark]

1811: -124.55- "JOS, err, REACH 1" vectors for climb. To 133.75. Could this just be a C-21 whose pilot is used to calling JOSA?

Rgr Mateo heard REACH 1 arrive Dover on their dispatch freq 269.1250.
dropping off A-3 + 3 pax then departed to Scott AFB as JOSA 194 at
2335z
Must have been a big shot with that callsign REACH 1, a new one for me here.

Mark

 

[Mateo]

Re: above:

So VENUS 41 must also be used for C-37 97-0401. Veery intelestink. I'll knock that one out of the presumed and into the "need a visual" pile. Thank you very much.

Thank you for also confirming REACH 1 as a JOSA/C-21 on the outbound. I imagined the head of AMC was onboard, and the second sighting lends it a bit of creedence.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: VENUS 41

Hi GC,

Thanks for this id as well - I had been assuming without a visual that this was the C-40B. Glad to have confirmation of type from the both of you.

Best regards,

Tony

Mateo:

I see Venus 41 in your log, He was here around 16:00 today at CHO. It is the Gulfstream with all white paint and just a small tail#. No blue and white advertising. He left here for Lynchburg 'cause CHO was getting busy like it does on football weekends.

I also saw a Navy T38 landed (something 84, I have the call in the truck) and another Navy King Air departed. All between 16-16:30.

 

[CitationJet]

Remember our HAKAR/HOTCAR logging?

From KBKF on Sep. 4, apologies if this was already uncovered...

239.025; HOTCAR-1, (T-38C, Moody), takeoff Colorado Springs.
Switch 387.15.

 

[Dank]

2 Chinooks

Abouut 12:00 noon today I saw a low flight of 2 Chinooks following rt 95 north through the Laurel, MD area. Did anyone hear any radio comms?

 

[Mateo]

Three quick ones from Dulles in the early afternoon:
1225: -141.55- PACER 01 on Victor...
1226: -378.1- Griffin Command, this is PACER 01. Can you mark us off at 1618z?
~1250: -128.45- ASCOT 2135 (RAF VC-10 XV109 seen) cleared for takeoff runway 1L.
1500: -126.1- GERMAN AIR FORCE 488 (Luftwaffe C160 50+90 seen) vectors for arrival IAD 1R. To 125.8 and 120.1. Also called Signature on 131.875 with an arrival message.

There was also a lot of low chatter on 378.1 over the course of the afternoon, but nothing that was decipherable.

 

[CitationJet]

China United Airlines/Chinese AF 733 B-4018 was noted yesterday at PHL. I should have stuck with my gut on my log from Friday, because I originally had the callsign as China Air Force 401, but changed it to 3701 thinking that's what I heard the crew state. I believe it was the former so I wanted to correct that as soon as I saw the PHL sighting.

More later,,,

09/18/2006

1300Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - SPIRIT? 11 () - cleared to land rwy 19L.
1334Z 141.550 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - JOSA 967 (C-21A 84-0100) - i/b ADW req. update on ramp freeze. Tail #40100.
1340Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - NAVY 7C 208 (UC-12B NAS Oceana Norfolk Flt. Det.) - 5000' for 2000' cleared for the vis. to rwy 32 @ DAA.
1357Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - EVAC 2107 () - just departing ADW...

 

[carbineone]

1433 Pitman 21 and 25 up with huntress 260.9 secondary 139.7
1510 CAP a/a switch to v8 -143.8
1515 Pitman a/a now 141.750
1520 cap replaced by pitman 32 and pitman 31
1205 cap a/a 140.375 boom 327.9
0113 cap still going strong pitman 35 260.9 (V-4 a/a 141.675)


I think this is the start of a CAP in NYC

 

[Mark]

GOLD 01 and GOLD 91 self id as Travis KC-10 tankers arrived McGuire
late 2345z and 0510z this am on CP 319.400.

Sounds like possibly setting up for Pond crossing soon.

Mark