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[Mark]

1250 MAPLE 47 with ZNY 122.400 req wx at Langley for next 45 minutes.. Odd freq.
1314 Sounds like TEXAS 91 F-16's up on Dover appch 282.325 holding at TIDY also A/A 140.150
1324 one of the TEXANS switching to airboss 342.000 which is Dover's metro.
1325 342.000 clear to Northwest and over the track.
1326 We will clear off North and hit burner
1331 "We want to come screaming by with burners" 140.150
1335 clearing off track with appch and rtb Dover,"Bet we looked good!" 140.150
sounded like was only flight of 2.

Mark

 

[TinEar]

Didn't get a chance to hear the TEXAS 91 flight. Had company show up and couldn't follow the rest of the MAD HOG flight either. I sure didn't expect TEXAS 91 up Mark since the race was postponed until tomorrow. Guess they were up "just in case" and made a pass anyway. Wonder if they're going to stay around until the race is run at noon tomorrow?

Oh yeah...I told you I was going to start a noise competition.

That TIGER 71 flight of F-16s from Shaw that came through here Friday on the way to Burlington was heard today going into Wisconsin after all. I mentioned I heard a reference to that in their chat which made me think that was their first stop. Turned out to be the second. Where next?

Add: Our regular Saudi Arabian Air Force A-340, tail HZ-124, was around again this morning.

KC-135R, 57-1412, from the 756th ARS Andrews took off a few minutes after 1500 as DC 91.

 

[Mark]

Oh yeah...I told you I was going to start a noise competition.

Yes maybe the TEXAS F-16's got the message as they seemed intent on making
some noise this time at Dover no matter what.
Good job! by you and the TEXANS.

The flyover wasn't even timed with anything on ground at race or TV.
Almost like it was a contractual obligation timing flyover race or no race.
I'm gonna take vacation day Monday and go to race as I saw today that there
was little chance of racing today due to weather.

Wouldn't surprise me if TEXANS call it a weekend and depart for home
but maybe they can hang around till noon Monday.
They haven't left yet tonite so far so hopeful about Monday.

1610 local REACH 5102 C-17 starts calling Andrews CP on 378.100 numerous times.
1620 REACH 5102 finally gets a reply 5 minutes out... Geez wish Andrews would fix their UHF reciever!

Mark

Monday 0732 AF-1 heard climbing up to 29k ZDC MIllville 125.400

 

[TinEar]

0930: Flight of three KC-10As from McGuire takes off and heads south. Heard with ZDC-Coyle 121.05 and on tanker interplane 139.875 (which they refer to as Victor-1.) The three are:
TEAM 10 -- 85-0028
TEAM 11 -- 85-0032
TEAM 12 -- 85-0031
0951: TEAM 10 calling Langley Command Post and then RAYMOND 16 (1st Fighter Wing)...no joy...311.0
0954: TEAM flight breaking up for individual missions...139.875
0955: TEAM flight with ZDC-Norfolk...in the block 28-29...133.825
0956: THUG 03 (C-17A, 04-4134, 6th AS McGuire) also w/ZDC-Norfolk 133.825 (heard on ZDC-Coyle 121.05 a couple of minutes earlier)
0958: THUG 04 (C-17A, 90-0534, 437th AW Charleston) also heading south w/ZDC-Coyle...121.05
There was also a THUG 01 (C-17A, 03-3127, 6th AS McGuire) just before 0900 as I was turning the radios on but I didn't have time to follow him at the time - was still setting volumes, etc.

1010: EVAC 50102 (C-17A, 95-0102, 437th AW Charleston) lifting off from Andrews...118.95

 

[BM82557]

Activity 06042007

1230 - visual on a B-17 that passed directly over my house heading north, nothing heard on Martinsburg freqs
1317 - wallked in the door to multiple ac on interflight talking about altimeter settings, runways 1L & 1R, 77 degrees , something about 319.0 and ROMEO -- 138.95 -- S1
1322 - talking about Reagan National, a C-130 is down low, something about targeting it I think -- 138.95 -- S2
1323 - "I was targeted while on the ground at McConnell" - 138.95 -- S4
1328 - mentioned 19L -- 138.95 -- Signal up to 5
1333 - talking about something they see that is under construction at Dulles - 138.95 - S5
1335 - ongoing chatter, "this is east coast sky clear'" - 138.95 -- S down to 3

and I'm out of here for now

 

[TinEar]

1320: TEXAS 91 flight (F-16 x4, 182nd Fighter Squadron TX-ANG Kelly AFB TX) leaves Dover on interflight...138.95
1322: TEXAS 91 w/ZDC-Brooke...327.0
1323: TEXAS 91 handed to ZDC-Montelbello...several calls, no joy...284.7
1325: TEXAS 91 back to ZDC-Brooke to report no joy with Montebello...sent right back to 284.7...327.0
1326: TEXAS 91 to ZDC-Montebello and check in at FL 260, non-standard formation...284.7
1333: TEXAS 91 handed off to ZDC-Gordonsville and check in FL 260...351.9

NOTE: I'm suddenly not sure about the 138.95 being interflight for the TEXAS 91 flight. At the same time they were leaving Dover and heading through this area, there was a REDEYE 91 flight of four F-16s (120th Fighter Squadron, CO-ANG Buckley AFB) coming into Andrews. It might have been that flight using 138.95. I'm up to my ears in construction here - saws running, hammers hammering and all kinds of noise (plus the Dover race in the background) so it's a bit difficult to follow anything full time.

Ref Above: Wow Brian! That must have been quite a sight - a Flying Fortress!

Mark: Hope you made it to the race. If TEXAS 91 flight did the flyby today, they didn't show it on Fox. I suspect they did just because of the time they pulled out of the area. Their departure would have been timed right to leave for home straight from the track flyby.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: B-17

Hi guys,

I don't pay any attention to warbirds, and this might have been at the AOPA meet in Frederick over the weekend, I have no clue, but a possibility?

http://www.collingsfoundation.org/menu.htm

Tony

1230 - visual on a B-17 that passed directly over my house heading north, nothing heard on Martinsburg freqs

 

[Mateo]

1230 - visual on a B-17 that passed directly over my house heading north, nothing heard on Martinsburg freqs

No rock-solid info, but "Memphis Belle" N3703G was over Culpeper, VA at 1210L this afternoon, and is headed for an airshow in Niagara Falls, ON this weekend. Can't tell where it was this past weekend. 50nm, 20mins = 150kts, which is about right for a B-17 cruise.

 

[Mark]

1320: TEXAS 91 flight (F-16 x4, 182nd Fighter Squadron TX-ANG Kelly AFB TX) Mark: Hope you made it to the race. If TEXAS 91 flight did the flyby today, they didn't show it on Fox. I suspect they did just because of the time they pulled out of the area. Their departure would have been timed right to leave for home straight from the track flyby.

Just got back from race...
Sorry TIN but no flyover,heard Dover Nascar tower race guy ask about one and NO was the word.
I did switch over my scanner to Dover air later during race when I saw the TEXANS
one by one about a mile apart departing up into the cloud deck.
They were on their normal squad 140.150 freq which is quite strong as 10 minutes later and they were prob 20k and miles away could still hear them on my handheld PRO-96.
Only eyeballed 3 of them on departure but maybe I missed one.

Did hear 0915 local ROYAL 1 Dover's new C-17 inbound alpha 1.
I would hope so...LOL

http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070604/NEWS/70604032/-1/updates

Mark

 

[TinEar]

Finally finished my construction project and can settle down and listen to the radios for a bit before crashing for the night.

2158: Refueling...no IDs on players heard yet...235.1
Potomac TRACON simulcast of VHF 121.05 ground controller is booming on 257.2 tonight. Almost sounds like a BWI transmitter instead of DCA. Controller is IDing as "Potomac Departure"
2205: BLACKJACK 1 and 2 (USCG HH-65) doing practice intercepts on Marine Channel 21A...157.05
2208: BLACKJACK 1 and 2 also with Andrews Tower...118.4
2212: DC 12 (KC-135R, 57-1487, 756th ARS Andrews) w/ADW Tower...6 miles out for the option...118.4
2219: DC 12 going around again...looks like he's serving time in the pattern...118.4/119.3
2221: BLACKJACK 2 w/ADW Tower for practice ILS on runway 19...118.4
2221: BLACKJACK 1 now on 139.7 (Didn't hear if he called HUNTRESS)
2224: U/I ground station asking someone, "Do you have mission 11524 up on your screen yet?" It's P-25 voice. I hear this a lot on the CRAB Ops freq at MTN but not usually as loud and clear as tonight...it sounds like another net feeding across this freq...385.9
2227: DC 12 tells ADW Tower he'll do one more ILS...118.4
2227: DC 12 calling LIBERATOR several times, no joy...378.1
2228: JOSA Control tells JOSA 907 (C-21A, 84-0092, 457th AS Andrews) that she called his maintenance but no one is answering (I only hear ground)...141.55
2229: Griffin Command calling 33118....141.55 (She's booming in tonight also)
Didn't hear aircraft 33118 but it should be a C-17A, 03-3118, 183rd AS MS-ANG - possibly on the ground ready to go airborne.
2232: DC 12 still calling LIBERATOR/Andrews/Griffin but no one replies...378.1
2232: Griffin Command tells 33118 they have another pax - a one star general...141.55
It appears Andrews still has a bad receiver on 378.1 for the fifth straight day.
2240: P25 voice is back on 385.9....someone asking another if the parking spots for tomorrow have been set yet (does he mean airplane parking?)
2250: Have had a couple of REACH contract aircraft go through the area on the ZDC VHF freqs...one currently and one about 30 minutes ago. The first was REACH 291 (reg. N633AT - an L1011) and this one is REACH 774 (reg. N506MC - a B747-200)

2307: TEAM 15 Heavy (KC-10A, 305th AMW McGuire) w/McGuire Approach asking if they're cleared to runway 24...124.15
2317: And here he is...REACH 3118 (C-17A, 03-3118, 183rd AS MS-ANG) reports airborne to Griffin Command...141.55
2320: Activity on AR freq...387.8
Reception is unbelievable tonight...now I'm hearing the VHF ground controllers from the DCA area.

Time to call it a night.

 

[HuubRoem]

Hi,

Yesterday POTUS was overhead the Netherlands for his EU trip, just after the AF1 and SAM93 there was a c/s BALLS 69 with Mode-S Hex code AE1BAC. Is anyone of you familiar with this c/s?

another 45 minutes later the RCH 2500 were overhead (62-3500, KC-135R)

 

[CitationJet]

06.05.2007 am

Back after a few days of new baby care...

06.05.2007 am

1048Z 139.700 HUNTRESS - BLACKJACK 1 (HH-65B CGAS Washington) - advises will RTB in 05 mins. to refuel.
1050Z 139.400 Davison AAF Ops "DAVEY OPS" - NAVY 7C 437 (UC-12B NAS Oceana NFD) - on the morning shuttle, req. fuel on file about 10-15 mins. out.
1052Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - NAVY 7C 437 (UC-12B NAS Oceana NFD) - @ 6000' for the ILS rwy 32 at Davison. Down to 3000' then cleared to 2000' at 12 nms., QSY Davison AAF TWR 126.300 for the landing.

1100Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - NAVY 7C 437 (UC-12B NAS Oceana NFD) - on the ILS rwy 32 gear down full stop.

 

[BM82557]

Activity 06052007

0831 - JOSA 877 to Langley, will be picking up A3 + 1 -- 141.75
1030 - MUSSEL 06 to WHEELHOUSE requesting phone patch with MUSSEL Control, patch initiated but lots of broken comms from 06, did hear ops normal then Mount Weather at 1100. Control back with "need you there at 1130, 1100 won't work, call them at 1050 and see if that's ok with them if not come on home" -- 287.6

 

[md_p97]

Hi guys,

I don't pay any attention to warbirds, and this might have been at the AOPA meet in Frederick over the weekend, I have no clue, but a possibility?

http://www.collingsfoundation.org/menu.htm

Tony

G**D*** It.....I missed the Reading Airshow again.....

I thought it was this coming weekend.....

That's where the warbirds all were.....the AOPA fly-in did have some nice light sport planes and Honda showed up with their new business jet....

But I would have rather been in Reading

 

[TinEar]

Hi,

Yesterday POTUS was overhead the Netherlands for his EU trip, just after the AF1 and SAM93 there was a c/s BALLS 69 with Mode-S Hex code AE1BAC. Is anyone of you familiar with this c/s?

another 45 minutes later the RCH 2500 were overhead (62-3500, KC-135R)

Hello Huub and welcome. I feel fairly sure the BALLS 69 is not a valid callsign. I know the callsign BALLS is being used by F-15s in the U.K. but that one looks like it's a joke by the maintenance people that put it into the callsign block. It's the combination of 69 with the callsign that makes me believe that.
*********************************************************

1000 hour: There is a lot of activity this morning after all those rainstorms yesterday that kept the fighters home for the most part. F-22A activity from Langley active on interflight 252.775. There are also Willow Grove A-10s at the Bollen Range 237.2 using callsign UGLY. Other Langley fighters are out in W-72 working with Giant Killer and just mentioned AR-636....it was callsign BOBCAT. Of course, the tankers and transports are all over the place. Heard a C-5B from Dover a few minutes ago heading for the AR track. It was HAGAR 70.

DC 22 (KC-135R, 59-1469, 756th ARS Andrews) went airborne early in the 0900 hour. DC 21 (KC-135R, 57-1512, 756th ARS) appears to have just taken off at about 1005 too. He's trying to call LIBERATOR on 378.1 to report his takeoff time but is getting no reply. Sixth day in a row for problems with that freq.
1020: SAM 1520 (C-20B, 86-0202, 99th AS Andrews) off from Andrews...118.95
1025: VENUS 40 (C-37A, 97-0400, 99th AS Andrews) working the pattern at Andrews...118.4/119.3
1025: BOXER 32 (C-40C, 02-0201, 201st AS DC-ANG) doing the same...118.4/119.3
1033: MOVER 22 (KC-10A, 84-0190, 305th AMW McGuire) with Giant Killer exiting W-107 area...255.0
1037: MOVER 22 calls "Command Post" and says he's off the coast of W-107 and is heading for AR-206 and wants to know the status of his receiver...(missed freq)
1045: MOVER 22 to Giant Killer...says he checked on the status of his receiver and would like to maintain his current position until 1510Z and then proceed on course to AR-206...looks like his Start Point for 206 will be at the Syracuse 094/35 DME...course will be current position to JFK to DUEYS to J37 to Albany and then the SP on the Syracuse radial...wants confirmation he's still cleared for the block 240-270...255.0

1115: NJ-ANG F-16s active on interflight...138.425
1117: U/I aircraft on Pax freq 291.15...sounded like they were setting up for ACM activity but not sure now what they're doing..
There are also Navy fighters maneuvering in the Pax north spin area working 270.8 and w/BayWatch on 354.8
1120: BANK 41 flight (Langley) to Giant Killer for entry to W-386 A-J for the next 30 minutes...249.8
1128: _____61 flight (Langley) w/Norfolk TRACON 370.925 and then w/Giant Killer 249.8 to enter W-386 (two chances at the callsign and I missed it both times)
1135: YODA 51 flight (F-22A Langley) to Giant Killer to enter W-386...249.8
1137: YODA flight working interflight freq...238.825
1142: Langley interflight freq active...315.85 (No ID yet)
1146: ROYAL 50 calling Dover Command Post...349.4 (Another new C-17A to Dover? Or is it the one they got yesterday as ROYAL 01 working with a different suffix? Last question: Is ROYAL going to be the new callsign for the squadron of C-17As being put together at Dover?)
1150: BANK 41 flight leaving W-386 and heading direct HEELS on the way back to LFI...249.8

Back later. Time to clean up all the branches and junk that blew off the trees in last night's storm.

 

[TinEar]

1319: UGLY flight (A-10 Willow Grove PA-ANG) up with Philadelphia TRACON at 13,000 feet...291.7
1320: UGLY flight handed off to ZNY-Pottstown (Preset 16 in UHF radio) and cleared up to 16,000 feet...278.3
1320: UGLY requesting direct Slate Run (heading for the Duke MOA)...278.3
1320: UGLY flight on interflight...142.25
1321: UGLY flight mentions to Ops they were scheduled 1430-1500 (local) at R5802 (Bollen Range)...wants to know if Ops can get that time extended...says they may have to blow off the tanker (in the Duke I imagine)...141.8
1324: UGLY flight cleared direct Slate Run...278.3
1326: UGLY handed off to ZNY-Williamsport (Preset 17)...338.3
And I guess they're now out of my listening range....all yours Dave.
1332: SUNNY 23 calling Williamsport Radio on FSS freq...no joy...255.4
1333: SUNNY 23 calling Any Radio...no joy...255.4
SUNNY=RC-12, 224th Military Intelligence Btln, Hunter AAF Savannah GA
1350: REACH 4756 calling Dover Command Post...several calls, no replies...349.4
1356: REACH 4756 makes contact with Dover for arrival msg...says he's a single C-130, tail 0552, 15 minutes out, 2 pallets, no pax, needs 25K on the fuel, parking and fleet service...349.4
REACH 4756=C-130H, tail 92-0552, from the 50th Airlift Squadron at Little Rock AFB AR. Home station callsign is BULL. The unit has a great history. Look them up sometime.

1405: Sounds like the UGLY flight back with ZNY-Williamsport...(Must be returning from the DUke but it seems too early...could be another flight)...338.3
1437: Willow Grove A-10s with ZNY-Williamsport 338.3 and then mention going to R5802 and changing freq...then heard them on Bollen Range freq talking to BALKY (range controller)...mention playtime at range of 30-40 minutes... confirm it's the UGLY flight...237.2
1440: BOXER 78 (C-40C, 02-0201, 210th AS Andrews) working the pattern at Andrews...118.4/119.3 (And then I think the same guy calls himself BOXER 13 although it might be a different aircraft)
1442: UGLY pilot tells BALKY he's a new guy here and wants some info about the range...237.2
1445: UGLY talking with WARCRAFT - a FAC at the Bollen Range...237.2
1457: CRAB 56 (C-130J, 98-1356, 135th AS MD-ANG) to CRAB Ops at Martin State with arrival message...gives fuel remainder as 9440 in the outboard tanks, 7720 in the inboards and 5720 in the "aux"...385.9 (I can't remember ever hearing them give fuel remainders that way.)

1502: BACKY 91 calling Andrews Command Post for the past several minutes...378.1 (Of course no answer on this freq) Changes to 141.55, makes contact and reports 60K of fuel on board....no pax.
BACKY 91=KC-135R, 62-3577, 77th ARS Seymour Johnson AFB SC
1505: CRAB 56 landing at Martin State w/Tower...121.3
1518: Coast Guard Helo 6585 (HH-65 and probably one of the DCA BLACKJACKs) with Coast Guard Station Baltimore. Wants Baltimore to assume Guard for him..will check in every 15 minutes...Marine Channel 23A/157.15
1520: FELIX 88 airborne from Wilmington...343.0 (See note below for ID)
1530: EVAC 3119 (C-17A, 03-3119, 183rd AS MS-ANG Jackson) calling Griffin Command...378.1 (yeah, good luck)
1544: RAVEN flight of MD-ANG A-10s reports airborne at 43 past the hour to Raven Ops...347.2
1545: RAVEN flight on interflight freq...142.3
1546: EVAC 3119 still trying to contact Griffin Command...finally does...15 minutes out, A-1, 1 baggage pallet, 3 pax and request 100,000 pounds of fuel...378.1 (actually made contact when they got close enough...I'm surprised)
1549: SAM 1511 [female] (C-37A, 97-0401, 99th AS Andrews) to SAM Command with departure report...airborne at 1936Z, ETA 2045Z, Code 2 plus 8...378.1 (has to repeat it a couple of times and loses contact while just a few miles from Andrews)
1551: RAVEN flight with Harrisburg Approach...281.525
1551: MD-ANG A-10s working different interflight...not sure if this is the RAVEN flight or another...140.025
1553: RAVEN request descent VFR...281.525 (going to Bollen Range perhaps)
1554: EVAC 3119 trying to reach Griffin again but can't...378.1

That's all for now.

Early in the 1200 hour on one of my stops in the house, I heard a FELIX 88, a C-130E from the 2nd AS Pope AFB, calling CB Ops at ILG (Wilmington) with an arrival message....freq 343.0

MOVER 22 (from the above post in the 1000 hour) eventually worked with FUZZY 23, a NY-ANG KC-135 from Niagara Falls on AR-206 freq 235.1 per a message from a New York listener.

 

[Mark]

1146: ROYAL 50 calling Dover Command Post...349.4 (Another new C-17A to Dover? Or is it the one they got yesterday as ROYAL 01 working with a different suffix? Last question: Is ROYAL going to be the new callsign for the squadron of C-17As being put together at Dover?)

Good question Tin,I remember McGuire adding JINX callsign when they got their
C-17's for local training missions.
Maybe Dover trying to differentiate new callsign so no mixup between HAGAR etc.
One local paper said that first place Dover was flying their new C-17 today was to
Atlantic City.
I'm sure ROYAL 50 is same as yesterday's tail except General of AMC is not at throttles..

Mark

 

[CitationJet]

Re: GILLY/GILLEY 1

Hi Paul,

See post #1812.

Best regards,

Tony

Who's Gilley (?)

I keep hearing DCA Twr warn others of his presence (120.7500), but never have never seen him.


Paul

 

[Mateo]

That's where the warbirds all were.....the AOPA fly-in did have some nice light sport planes and Honda showed up with their new business jet....

Whooooaaaa. If the HondaJet was there, I completely missed it (as did another spotter who undoubtedly would have said "Holy s#!t, the HondaJet," albeit in a very understated way). The VLJs represented were the Citation Mustang, the Eclipse 500, and a mockup of the DiamondJet.

This afternoon's 1700 hour, as heard from Gravelly Point:
DC91 arriving, DC24 departing, EVAC 33119 on the ground, REACH 369 on the ground, JEDI 20 somewhere in the air, JOSA 651 arriving, NAVY JT 400 departing. Callsigns, types, frequencies, etc, were all standard, although DC91 to 378.1 said "We've been calling for 20 minutes, and now we're on final. I guess you're still having radio problems."

I only saw the 2 DCs, although of note, DC91 was trailing the drogue behind its boom. Refuelling some non-USAF assets, perhaps?

 

[nightwatch]

sts117 ops

looks like there ops will again be on satcom nbfm 252.150 and 261.875 ,they have been testing most of the day jollys kings cape radio.