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Not sure if logging is going to work tonight since the site is moving at a crawl. However, as I turned the radios back on...

2027: MD-ANG A-10s working interflight...142.3
2027: U/I A-10s working Bollen Range...237.2
2030: U/I aircraft working interflight...140.5 (this is a new one for me)
2056: DC 24 (KC-135R, 57-1512, 756th ARS Andrews) calling LIBERATOR...no joy...378.1
2056: DC 24 w/TRACON...119.85
2057: MD-ANG A-10s still working interflight...they're at Pax at the Vienna range...142.3

2105: DC 24 still trying to call LIBERATOR...still gets squadoosh...378.1
2106: OPEC 01 calling OPEC 28 (Both KC-10As from the 305th AMW McGuire) on interplane...139.875
2107: CRAB 56 (C-130J, 98-1356, 135th AS MD-ANG) up with Crab Ops...10 minutes out, 16K on the fuel...385.9 (they are also on 148.925)
2111: DC 24 manages to reach LIBERATOR as they report 5 minutes out, A-1, 42K on the fuel...378.1 (took until they were about in the pattern before being heard at Andrews. This is a sorry event that they either haven't fixed it after a week or at least posted a NOTAM about the problem)
2118: BLACKJACK 1 and 2 up on primary...139.7
2127: DC 23 (KC-135R, 59-1469, 756th ARS Andrews) now trying to call LIBERATOR...no joy....transmits in the the blind...20 minutes out, A-1, 48K on the fuel...378.1
2134: AXEMAN reports to Raven Ops the two ship flight is 10 minutes out, both code 1...347.2 (This is the flight from 142.3)
2139: AXEMAN reports to MTN Tower they're 5 miles out, straight in for runway 33...297.2
2142: RAVEN flight also coming home to MTN (must have been the flight on 140.5 but I stopped hearing them about 30 minutes ago.)...297.2
2152: REACH 9008 (C-5A, 69-0008, 105th AW NY-ANG) to Dover CP...20 minutes out, needs parking...349.4

Site won't move...can no longer post.

Here's a strange one I forgot to log from this afternoon. Into the area at 1447, Algerian Air Force Gulfstream IV (tail 7T-VPC, 580 Squadron). And I thought they only had camels. Learn something new every day.
 
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Possibly another new callsign for Dover C-17...
RIDER 99 doing pattern work back in Dover airspace and landing will do practice combat offloads before parking at 2315 local on CP 349.400.

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Mark said:
Possibly another new callsign for Dover C-17...
RIDER 99 doing pattern work back in Dover airspace and landing will do practice combat offloads before parking at 2315 local on CP 349.400.

Mark

Mark, I ran into that callsign last night but couldn't post it because the site wasn't working properly. RIDER 99 was indeed our new C-17A (6165) but I guess we'll have to wait to see how they make use of RIDER/ROYAL in the future.
(Looked at my notes from last night and it was at 2204 local when I first heard RIDER 99 so he was up for a long time.)
 
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Mateo said:
This afternoon's 1700 hour, as heard from Gravelly Point:
DC91 arriving, DC24 departing, EVAC 33119 on the ground

Was the EVAC fligt the one bringing in wounded soldiers? Around 5:30 lastight as I was heading north on rt 29 in Silver Soring, I saw 2 military busses with flashing lights and sirens heading to Walter Reed.
 

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Mateo said:
This afternoon's 1700 hour, as heard from Gravelly Point:
DC91 arriving, DC24 departing, EVAC 33119 on the ground

Was the EVAC fligt the one bringing in wounded soldiers? Around 5:30 lastight as I was heading north on rt 29 in Silver Soring, I saw 2 military busses with flashing lights and sirens heading to Walter Reed.

Dan, I don't mean to speak for Matt but the answer is...yes. Those C-17As from the MS-ANG seem to have that job almost exclusively. I heard 33119 mention that he had several litter and ambulatory patients aboard as he was approaching Andrews. Every time I hear one of those EVAC planes coming in - and they come on a regular basis - I wish I could turn it around and undo what has happened to their passengers.

It has been an extremely busy morning in the MilAir world. The scanners won't scan...they keep stopping on busy freqs and won't move. And the F-22s from Langley are also busy out in the offshore areas with Giant Killer (370.925 Norfolk TRACON and 249.8 for Giant Killer to hear them entering/exiting...KING/DEFT/RODEO among the callsigns working at noon....233.525 interflight for one of the F-22 flights (KING)...391.2 tactical freq busy)
 
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Heard on the way in to work this morning...

06.06.2007 am

1457Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - WAMO 51 - deps ADW 1700' for 3000' then cleared to 12000' QSY 121.050.
1455Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - NAVY 358 - deps ADW 3000' for 5000' then cleared to 15000'.

1508Z 378.100 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - EVAC 19144 (C-130H 91-9144 96th AS AFRC) - dep msg airborne ADW at this time.
 

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He's (NZ7572) taking his sweet time getting here...nothing yet and he's had all of four hours to make the trip. Guess he isn't using burners.

No Kiwi, but German Air Force C-160D showed up (tail 50+08) around 1530 local.
 

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1743: AXEMAN flight of two A-10s airborne from Martin State as reported to Raven Ops...347.2....and they're using 142.3 for interflight.
1748: And another MTN A-10 flight on interflight...this pair is already working ground targets...140.025
I'm beginning to think these are the AXEMAN pair - just changed freq after takeoff.

1800: Coming up on six hours since NZ7572 left SFO...still nothing here. Must have stopped for a long lunch along the way....or went somewhere else.
1825: And MTN A-10s now using 140.0 for interflight. Thes guys just seem to pick a freq and go to it whether it's been assigned or not. I've heard them mention these are not presets in the past. (140.0/140.025/141.0/143.0)
Or...it could be three flights of A-10s working...AXEMAN/RAVEN/COLT but AXEMAN was the only flight I heard report their airborne time to Raven Ops.
1839: Bearing fruit....COLT flight of two A-10s to MTN Tower for landing...297.2
1842: COLT 1 and 2 report "base, gear, stop" and touch down...297.2
COLT must have been the flight using 140.025 since 140.0 and 142.3 are still active.

1905: RAVEN flight to Raven Ops...10 out, two Code 1s...347.2
This is the flight from 140.0
1905: AXEMAN flight to Raven Ops...10 out, two Code 1s...347.2
This is the flight from 142.3
Transports have been calling Griffin/SAM/Andrews all day on 378.1 with the same results they've been getting for the past week -- just about no results until practically on top of the field and even then they're spotty. They have neither fixed the problem nor posted a NOTAM to warn pilots of the problem. Last year I got word to them through channels when this happened and they found a faulty receiver and replaced it to fix the problem. Is this my job? I don't think so.
1912: RAVEN, flight of two to MTN Tower...15 miles to the south, holding hands for full stop landing...297.2
1914: RAVEN flight 5 miles out, full stop for two (aircraft)...297.2
1916: AXEMAN flight reports approaching Hart-Miller (Island) for tactical initial...(two Cessnas in the pattern holding them up)...297.2
1918: AXEMAN says they're going to go back out to Hart-Miller and then re-enter...297.2
1919: RAVEN flight cleared to land...297.2
1921: AXEMAN flight cleared to land...both report "gear down, full stop"...297.2
And we're done with the COLT/RAVEN/AXEMAN flights of A-10s. (except for the chat while on the ground as they taxi over to meet up with the maintenance crew.)

1941: And here (S)HE is...KIWI 568 (New Zealand Defense Force B752, NZ7572) finally showed up with TRACON. (7.5 hours from SFO - that's crawling)...128.35 (into Dulles she goes...except it's a HE talking)
1941: U/I on AR freq...will be at ACK (Nantucket) at 0020Z...341.75
1948: REACH 517 (C-17A, 99-0170, 62nd AW McChord AFB WA), after calling Andrews for 20 minutes with no reply, finally makes contact when 10 minutes out...no pax or cargo, needs crew trans for 8 and will take fuel when he lands.
1954: REACH 517 tries to get back to Andrews but gets no reply (and he's practically over the field now)...378.1

2004: BOXER 07 (C-38A, 94-1570, 201st AS DC-ANG) in the pattern at Andrews...119.3/118.4
2005: CRAB 56 (C-130J, 98-1356, 135th AS MD-ANG) at Martin State...w/CRAB Ops...385.9
2008: CRAB 52 (C-130J, 97-1352, 135th AS MD-ANG) reports off at 5 past the hour...385.9
2012: POLO 7?1? (C-5A, 69-0012, 105th AW NY-ANG) to Dover CP (fades)...349.4
Should be POLO 74 per message from Mark below.
2017: BATON 52 (EC-130J, 193rd SOW, PA-ANG) with Giant Killer getting clearance back to Harrisburg from W-107...cleared to Sea Isle at FL 180 and gets 281.45 freq...pilot asks if that's the same as 133.125 (it is for ZDC-Sea Isle) and off he goes...255.0
2023: PACER 24 (C-21A, 84-0077, 457th AS Andrews) to Griffin Command to report he was airborne at 0015Z...141.55
2039: Raven Ops talking to aircraft on the ground at MTN...might have another A-10 flight upcoming...347.2
She's talking to RAVEN 1.
2046: PACER 24 (see above) to Griffin Command to say they'll be landing in about 5 minutes...please call their maintenance to let them know and need crew trans...141.55
2047: BOXER 44 (C-40C, 02-0202, 201st AS DC-ANG) working the ADW pattern....119.3
2051: BATON 52 giving arrival message to Baton Ops...395.1

2102: BOXER 07 still working the pattern at ADW...asked tower controller about the upcoming ramp freeze...118.4
AIR TERMINAL RAMP FREEZE 07 JUN 01:45 2007 UNTIL 07 JUN 02:15 2007 (2145-2215 local time)
2112: RAVEN 1 flight (A-10 MD-ANG) did sneak out of MTN...with Harrisburg Approach...281.525
2112: RAVEN flight working interflight...142.3
2115: And it sounds like another A-10 flight is about to take off from MTN...347.2
2116: COLT flight of A-10s off the deck at MTN and with TRACON departure...290.475
2118: COLT flight handed off to TRACON as they climb out to 7000 feet...317.425
2120: COLT flight working interflight freq...140.025
2125: COLT flight handed off to Patuxent Approach...314.0...then to BayWatch and say they'll be at Pax for the next hour...354.8
2126: AXEMAN flight reports airborne to Raven Ops...347.2
So...all three flights are back up...RAVEN north, perhaps to Bollen Range...COLT to Pax and it remains to be seen where AXEMAN heads.
2127: AXEMAN to TRACON 290.475 and then 317.425
2130: Confirm...RAVEN flight is at Bollen Range...237.2
2131: AXEMAN flight being handed off by TRACON to Patuxent Approach...317.425 (So...AXEMAN and COLT will be at Pax)
2132: AXEMAN checks in with Pax at 7000 feet...314.0....then "Push 10" and come up with BayWatch on 354.8 to say they'll be there for the next 40 minutes working up to 20,000 feet.
The only place I've heard AXEMAN chatting has been on Raven Ops freq 143.8. They must be doing their work on low band FM.
2146: And here's that contract REACH aircraft yet again...REACH 0286 (MD-11, N277WA) heading northeast...currently in Virginia about to cross the Potomac into Maryland at FL 330.
2154: RAVEN tells Bollen Range controller BALKY he can notify Harrisburg they'll be leaving in about 5 minutes...237.2

2200: RAVEN flight leaving Bollen Range...237.2
2200: AXEMAN leaving Pax...or working clearance for when they do leave...354.8
2204: SALTY DOG 102 (single F/A-18 from Pax) with ZDC-Sea Isle...281.45 (He did a round-robin flight to Brunswick, Maine where he did a single touch-and-go on runway 1 and turned around for home.)
2205: SALTY DOG 102 handed off to ZDC-Salisbury...257.7
2206: RAVEN flight reports 10 minutes out...347.2
2206: There has been some interesting activity at Pax on freq 310.55...U/I aircraft has been working tactical targets on the ground. He's lighting up targets on the ground with a laser apparently ("sparkle on middle target", etc.)
2212: SALTY DOG 102 with Pax Approach at 8000 feet...wants ASR to runway 32 and then full stop...not gonna work so he asks for full stop...281.8
2214: RAVEN to MTN Tower asks lighting be reduced to a minimum...297.2
2218: RAVEN flight touching down at MTN...297.2
2220: COLT flight leaving Patuxent...281.8
Didn't hear anyone take off from Andrews or land during the ramp freeze period. Not sure what that was all about.
2223: COLT 2 to Raven Ops to report 10 minutes out and both Code 1...347.2
Where'd AXEMAN go? Did I miss them coming back?
2225: No I didn't...AXEMAN to BayWatch at Pax to say they'll be departing in about 5 minutes...354.8 (guess they were just working their return clearance at 2200)
2232: COLT flight to MTN Tower for landing...2 mile trail formation...297.2
2233: AXEMAN 1 to Potomac TRACON for approach to MTN at 6000 feet...then cleared to 3000...317.425
2233: AXEMAN 2 to Raven Ops to report 10 minutes out, both Code 1...347.2
2235: COLTs touching down at MTN...297.2
2236: AXEMAN cleared for visual approach to runway 33 at MTN by TRACON...317.425
2240: AXEMAN handed off to MTN Tower...10 mile straight in approach followed by #2 two miles back...297.2
2241: CRAB 52 back in the area...with TRACON (heard the ground simulcast on 317.425 only - acft was using VHF)
2243: AXEMAN 1 gear down, full stop....AXEMAN 2 three miles, gear down, full stop....and they both touch down.
Never did hear the AXEMAN interflight freq. I scanned the low band presets during takeoff and landing approach and heard nothing. I wonder if they have a new one. The 41.95 freq always has static on it so I have to leave that one locked out but put a receiver on it anyway....heard nada.
2248: REACH 5001 (C-5B, 85-0001, 436th AW Dover) to Dover CP with arrival message...A-2, 18 pax and 6000 pounds of cargo on 1 pallet to offload...349.4
2251: CRAB 52 landing MTN...121.3...and w/Crab Ops...385.9
2253: _____ 90 calling McGuire Command Post but on 349.4...someone answers him - probably Dover and 90 asks for a relay to McGuire CP. Apparently, Dover told him he's on the wrong freq so he tries 319.4. Nothing there and immediately back to 349.4 asking again for a relay. Silence.

2301: YANKEE 1 (C-21A, 84-0079) off from Andrews...125.65 (This aircraft serial shows assigned to the 457th AS at Andrews. However, the YANKEE callsign is being used by the new C-21A mission at the CT-ANG Bradley outfit. It might have been reassigned to that unit.)
2309: ?WB? 305 to Giant Killer...233.7 (Too weak)

End of log.
 
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Nah, Tin needs to do what I suggested some time ago - run a leased line from one of his scanners to Andrews, and charge a fee plus for use. . That would be in line with how the government works in any case (I know, 'cause I work for them...). Would be a nice chunk of change, no doubt :.>> Or perhaps get onto Teamspeak via Mark's server....(yeah, like that's going to happen anytime soon....) 73s Mike
 

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ka3jjz said:
Nah, Tin needs to do what I suggested some time ago - run a leased line from one of his scanners to Andrews, and charge a fee plus for use. . That would be in line with how the government works in any case (I know, 'cause I work for them...). Would be a nice chunk of change, no doubt :.>> Or perhaps get onto Teamspeak via Mark's server....(yeah, like that's going to happen anytime soon....) 73s Mike
in the fall,just need a pc to run the feed and time to set it up.rs dumped there 2055's up here for 149.00 so i pick up 4.ones in place running on teamspeak the next one should be up in july.*note no charge but thanks for the idea!
 

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Rough evening for C-5's

HAGAR 71 Dover C-5 rtb Dover after hitting Fox on runway departure,need to check for damage before we go meet our tanker a half hour late now.

2100 local POLO 74 C-5A Stewart ANG was working the local pattern as well and now declaring emergency on CP 349.400 with fluid leaking from #1 engine pylon area.

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I think you might be there only hope Tin!! Either that, or we just aren't going to hear anything on 378.1 anymore...again :roll:

Yeah Nick...guess I really should call them. I just can't imagine they've gone a week in this condition without addressing the problem. All the controllers there must be aware of the problem because Approach and Tower certainly have been hearing about it from incoming aircraft. Most of the JOSA aircraft have already made the change to the 141.55 freq but that was probably on their own because they're familiar with the freq - not so the visitors who just keep calling and calling on 378.1.

ka3jjz/Mike said:
Nah, Tin needs to do what I suggested some time ago - run a leased line from one of his scanners to Andrews, and charge a fee plus for use. . That would be in line with how the government works in any case (I know, 'cause I work for them...). Would be a nice chunk of change, no doubt :.>> Or perhaps get onto Teamspeak via Mark's server....(yeah, like that's going to happen anytime soon....) 73s Mike

Not a bad idea Mike. Let's see...leasing the radio should be worth a grand a month, watching over it to make sure it keeps working is worth...oh....about a grand a week. Use of the antenna and other overhead (electric/workspace) is another grand a week. I'll just round it out to $10K a month. Small price to pay for keeping aircraft safe in the sky. And I'll need to hire office help to fill out the 172 forms they'll want completed each month. And an attorney to make sure everything is in compliance with the law. And a building to put them all in. I figure once we put it all together it shouldn't run more than 1% of the annual federal budget.
 
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06.07.2007 am

The usual...

06.07.2007 am

1052Z 139.400 Davison AAF Ops "DAVEY OPS" - PAT 1202 (C-12T 85-1268 Davison RFC) - morning shuttle tail #268 arriving in 10 mins.
1053Z 118.950 Potomac DEP - PAT 1202 (C-12T 85-1268 Davison RFC) - cleared for the vis,. to rwy 14 and over to Davison AAF TWR 126.300 for the landing.
 
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