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1812Z 281.400 ZDC-Calvert - SHADOW 20 (E-6B VQ-3) - checks in @ FL240
1822Z 270.350 ZDC-Shenandoah - SHADOW 20 (E-6B VQ-3) - FL270 cleared to FL290
then req. FL340 as final.

Nice catch Tony. That was 164407 from VQ-4. Just about the time you think they are no longer using ARTCC UHF...
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Three KC-135R tankers from the 756th ARS at Andrews are up this morning...62-3543, 62-3556 and 61-0307. That last one is a rare find that has been heard very seldom this year. It was heard March 14th and then not again until September 14th. I was beginning to wonder if it was gone from the inventory. Guess not.
KC-135s from the PA-ANG at Pittsburgh (59-1460) and from the NY-ANG at Niagara Falls (60-0358) also heard in the area this morning.
 

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ARIEL 34 KC-10 #79-1949 305thAW arrive McGuire around 2145z.
New McGuire KC-10 callsign for me here.

LIFTER 42 C-17 from Charleston landing Dover 1855 local.
mentions staying just a couple hours..

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ARIEL 34 KC-10 #79-1949 305thAW arrive McGuire around 2145z.
New McGuire KC-10 callsign for me here.

Mark

Funny you should mention that one Mark. I just finished an email to someone about that callsign just as you posted it.

The callsign is actually AREOL and I've heard two different types of tankers from different units using it now. As you said, AREOL 34 was the KC-10A from the 305th. The other one was yesterday when I had AREOL 32 (KC-135R, 62-3516, 197th ARS AZ-ANG.) I was wondering in the email whether it was another new tanker Coronet callsign. I was perhaps expecting (as you probably were too) to hear another Coronet mission earlier today so I've been looking for a new callsign for the tankers. Both tankers spelled it the same way. I have no idea where they got it since it doesn't seem to be a word. There's AREOLE and AREOLA (which I doubt they'd use) that are words but that's as close as I can come to a real word.

Edit: I should have explained something above. Although both tankers spelled it the same way, that spelling is from their flight plans which is limited to seven characters, including the suffix. So, they would only use five letters even if the callsign word was actually longer. That's what I meant when I said AREOLE/AREOLA are both words - either of which could be the actual callsign.
 
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The Coronet mission I was looking for yesterday did take place - but only partially. MAZDA 41-44 were the fighters from the 105th FW accompanied by GOLD 91 and 92. So, AREOL was not a tanker callsign for that flight at least. No idea what happened to the remaining cells of the MAZDA flight.

1106: EVAC 812 (C-130H, 78-0812, 758th AS AFRC Pittsburgh) reports airborne from Andrews on the hour....378.1
1110: BOXER 51 (or 55 - heard both) (C-40C. 02-0203, 201st AS DC-ANG) reports to BOXER Ops he'll be in the blocks in 5 minutes and is Code 1...314.25
1112: MARINE 474 (UC-35D, 166474, MAW-4) with ADW Approach...119.3
1113: BLACKJACK 2 (HH-65, USCG) with HUNTRESS...119.7
1118: MARINE 474 w/ADW Tower....gets option for touch and go...118.4
1118: SITKA 71 (C-17A, 00-0171, 62nd AW McChord) overflying area at FL 320...ZDC VHF (New callsign for me...adding to database. Not sure if it's a new unit call or a mission callsign. I think it's a unit callsign just because the suffix matches the tail number.)
1123: EVAC 134 (C-21A, 84-0134, 458th AS Scott) heading into Andrews...TRACON.
Andrews landings are from the south on runway 1 today.
1130: C-5B, 87-0045, 436th AW Dover climbing out from Dover and C-5B, 85-0001, 436th AW Dover also in the area (Heard both from another room - don't know freqs used)
1133: REACH 387T (C-17A, 98-0050, 62nd AW McChord) climbing out from Andrews...118.95
1147: REACH 386T (C-17A, 04-4132, 305th AMW McGuire)) reports departure from Andrews to Griffin Command at 45 after the hour...says he thinks they were early...378.1

1155: SHAKY 1 (unknown - don't know if it's military) reporting over W29 (Bay Bridge Airport) heading for 2W5 (Maryland Airport, Indianhead)...ADIZ South...125.125
1156: SHAKY 1 handed off to ADIZ East and makes the same report...126.75
Aircraft are reporting static on the Potomac TRACON (Chesapeake area) freqs. Controller says he understands it's around the Frederick area where they're having the problem and it should get better as they get nearer to Westminster. Says they are working on the problem.
1200: TRACON controller calls SHAKY 01 and tells him to switch to 125.12(5)....126.75
1200: SHAKY 01 checks in with TRACON...125.125
First couple of calls the suffix was just 1 and then 01 later which must be the way he's filed.
There's also a FREIGHT TRAIN 11 zipping around the area.

1200: 407 (E-6B, 164407, VQ-4) appears to be departing Patuxent...310.15
1225: ROCCO 71 (KC-135E, 62-3527, 108th ARW McGuire) climbs out of McGuire and comes across this area continuing the climb...at FL 280 by 1229...FL 330 by 1233...and settles in at FL 340...ZDC VHF
1240: FAST 51 (?F-16 138th FS, NY-ANG Syracuse?) climbing...w/Harrisburg A/D climbing from 8 to 10,000 feet...273.525
1241: FAST 51 handed to ZNY-Middletown and checks in at 10,000 climbing to 15K...cleared to 17K...322.4
1242: FAST 51 handed to ZNY-Modena and checks in at FL 170 and cleared to FL 210...335.6
1243: FAST 51 requesting direct Seymour Johnson when able...cleared to FL 240...335.6
1245: FAST 51 cleared direct Richmond...335.6
1245: FAST 51 handed to ZDC-Potomac and checks in at FL 240, request direct Seymour when able...307.025
1246: FAST 51 handed to ZDC-Brooke...checks in, is cleared from FL 240 to 250...327.0
No indication this is more than a single ship flight...no interflight detected.
1248: FAST 51 cleared direct Pope but requests direct Seymour...he is...327.0
1253: FAST 51 cleared from FL 250 to 240...327.0
1255: FAST 51 handed to ZDC-Blackstone and checks in at FL 240...235.625
1302: FAST 51 handed off to ZDC-Franklin and checks in at FL 240....cleared to 16,000...say they can start descent now...290.425 (that's last heard)

1257: Have an aircraft climbing out of Andrews w/Potomac TRACON on 257.2. Believe his callsign is KATO 312. If so, it may be a T-45 from NAS Kingsville TX. First heard at 2000 feet climbing. His transmitter is crap.
1300: KATO 312 handed to TRACON on 343.7 and continues his climb
1303: KATO 312 handed to ZDC-Montebello continuing the climb...eventually cleared to FL 260...284.7 (still on this freq as of 1309...handed off at 1314 and I don't care to follow him)

1315: EVAC 134 (C-21A. 84-0134, 458th AS) reports airborne at 1711Z...378.1
1315: JOSA 828 (C-21A, 84-0075, 457th AS) with TRACON...123.825
1319: ARMY 1944 (C-37A, 97-1944, PAT) climbing out of Andrews...118.95

1321: BULLY 1 flight of four (F-16 DC-ANG Andrews) off the deck at Andrews...w/TRACON 348.725 and on interflight 139.15
1323: BULLY 1 flight handed to ZDC-Calvert and check in in the climb...281.4
1325: BULLY 1 flight cleared to Harcum...281.4
1325: WILD flight of two (F-16 DC-ANG Andrews) airborne from Andrews...TRACON 348.725 and interflight 143.6
1327: WILD flight to ZDC-Calvert...requests direct HATIE (VA)...281.4
Something tells me our DC-ANG unit is soon heading for the desert. They've been training hot and heavy recently at various ranges.
1332: BULLY flight handed to ZDC-Franklin and request R-5314 when able (Dare County NC Range)...290.425
1336: WILD flight over to ZDC-Franklin and check in at FL 230 requesting direct HATIE...290.425

It's football time. Seems to be very busy in the MilAir world for a Sunday.

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Wasn't 00-0171 part of the series from McChord scheduled to be transferred to Elmendorf? The Alaskan-theme callsign would fit, then.
I don't know Matt. I don't have that info if it is. Is it Sitka, the town in Alaska, or the Sitka spruce found also in Washington?
The only C-17A I know for sure that went to Alaska was the one named "Spirit of Denali" but don't know its tail number.

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Here is list of 8 formerly 62AW McChord C-17's now with Alaska 517th AS
courtesy of Kev's C-17 web site.
A big DUH! on my part. I had his list with the new Elmendorf C-17s marked and didn't pull it up to check. Thanks for the reminder Mark.
At Elmendorf, they are jointly flown and maintained by the 249th AS of the AK-ANG and the 517th AS of the regular Air Force.
By the way, I've now changed the SITKA callsign to the 249th/517th AS Elmendorf AFB AK in my callsign database.
 
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TinEar said:
1118: SITKA 71 (C-17A, 00-0171, 62nd AW McChord) overflying area at FL 320...ZDC VHF (New callsign for me...adding to database. Not sure if it's a new unit call or a mission callsign. I think it's a unit callsign just because the suffix matches the tail number.)
Wasn't 00-0171 part of the series from McChord scheduled to be transferred to Elmendorf? The Alaskan-theme callsign would fit, then.
 

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Mateo said:
Wasn't 00-0171 part of the series from McChord scheduled to be transferred to Elmendorf? The Alaskan-theme callsign would fit, then.

I had #00-0172 thru our area the other day headed for Ramstein and
confirmed he was also Alaska ANG C-17.

Here is list of 8 formerly 62AW McChord C-17's now with Alaska 517th AS
courtesy of Kev's C-17 web site.

http://www.c-17aglobemaster.bravehost.com/Fleet.html

AE080D P-67 99-0167 AK 517AS w Elmendorf
AE080E P-68 99-0168 AK 517AS w Elmendorf
AE080F P-69 99-0169 AK 517AS w Elmendorf Spirit of Denali
AE0810 P-70 99-0170 AK 517AS w Elmendorf
AE0676 P-71 00-0171 AK 517AS w Elmendorf
AE0677 P-72 00-0172 AK 517AS w Elmendorf
AE0678 P-73 00-0173 AK 517AS w Elmendorf Spirit of the Aleutians
AE0679 P-74 00-0174 AK 517AS w Elmendorf


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Slow Monday as usual..

REACH 6168 C-17 arrive Dover 2130z,req customs.

TEAL 89 C-130 arrive Dover 2210z,ron overnite. I assume a WC-130 53WRS/403 AW
out of Keesler AFB

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DC-ANG F-16s working this morning...
0910: BULLY 1, single ship off the deck at Andrews...348.725 TRACON, to ZDC-Calvert 281.4 , to Patuxent Check-In 305.2 where he announces work in R-4006 up to FL 250 and then back to Andrews.
0925: WILD flight of two airborne from Andrews...interflight 143.6 and TRACON 348.725 for the climbout, to TRACON 317.425, ZDC-Swann 360.7, ZDC-Coyle 254.3, ZDC-Sea Isle 281.45 and finally over to Giant Killer on 255.0 to enter W-107 on event A-1605 from 6,000 to 50,000 feet and IDs as a flight of two F-16s MARSA with SCARY 2-ship F-16 flight. It was 0940 by the time they got to this freq.
0927: SCARY flight of two F-16s airborne from Andrews...interflight 139.15. They followed a few minutes behind the WILD flight and used all the same freqs except they were handed off directly from TRACON 348.725 to ZDC-Swann 360.7 (skipping 317.425). They got to Giant Killer's 255.0 freq at 0944. They announce they'll all be working freq 337.225
0940: BRAVE 61 and 62 airborne from Andrews...they go to the Patuxent area and check in with BayWatch on 354.8 to work R-4006/4008 for 45 minutes. They are also working HUNTRESS on 139.7 and will be doing some ACM practice activity. They also have comms with CAPITOL on the 139.7 freq.
So...we've got seven F-16s up at this time from Andrews. I haven't figured out what the BULLY flight is doing since he's a single ship and therefore no interflight comms.

0953: EXECUTIVE ONE FOXTROT (C-40B, 01-0041, 1st AS Andrews) airborne from Andrews....TRACON (Thought this might have been the First Lady starting her trip to the Middle East but checked and that doesn't happen until the 20th.)

1002: MAPLE ?? (F-16 VT-ANG) descending from FL 200 to 12,000 feet for Langley arrival w/ZDC-Salisbury...257.7
1003: BANK 51 flight (F-22A Langley) checking in with Giant Killer to work offshore area...249.8
1004: Royal Air Force...ASCOT 2334 (VC-10, XV105, 101 Squadron) in the area....climbing out from somewhere (WRI?)...ZDC VHF

1008: LOCKHEED 11 (U/I) with Dover CP apparently with a maintenance problem and is returning to base...349.4
I think this might be 86-0025, one of the new C-5M types.

1004: GEMINI 4063 landing at Dover w/Tower....126.35
1016: SALTY DOG 534 [female] with ZDC-Azalea...263.1
1017: SALTY DOG 534 (EA-6B, 156481, VX-23 Patuxent NAS) handed to ZDC-Irons and checks in at 15,500 feet...360.85
1025: WILD and SCARY flights heading back to Andrews...ZDC-Casino 285.4
1025: BRAVE flight say they'll RTB in 10 minutes....139.7
1029: BULLY 1 flight with ADW Tower for landing..."base, gear, stop, left"...349.0
1030: TESTER 14 (T-38C, 67-4943, USN Test Pilot School) with Patuxent...270.8
1031: SCARY flight with SOF giving mission report...69 miles east of field...139.9

1032: Commercial aircraft telling TRACON controller he's got a hole in his plane and needs to stay below 10,000 feet....118.95 (No ID heard yet)
Nothing further heard.

1036: WILD flight to SOF with mission report...139.9
1036: Two KC-135R tankers off the deck at Andrews...DC 22 (62-3556) and DC 21 (62-3543)....TRACON
1039: DC 21 repeats ground's advice that refueling has been cancelled...then asks 22 if he heard that...he did...378.1 (They're continuing their climbout however.)
1043: SCARY flight w/TRACON 270.275 and then over to ADW Tower for the overhead and then eventual landing...349.0
1044: WILD flight with TRACON and told to follow behind SCARY 1 and 2...270.275
1045: WILD flight to ADW Tower for initial contact...349.0
1045: SCARY 1 "base, gear, stop, 19L"....SCARY 2 gives the same report and they're down...349.0
1046: WILD flight cleared to land 19L...WILD 1 "base, gear, stop, left"...WILD 2 same report and they're also now done...349.0
1049: DC 21 and 22 agree they'll keep flying the flight plan until they get word about what to do...21 will await instructions from 22...talking about speeds and altitudes and call this freq Comm 1...378.1 (They're also talking to ground - LIBERATOR - but not saying much, just acknowledging what they're being told.)
1051: BRAVE 61 w/ADW Tower checking in...reporting initial for runway 19L...349.0
1053: BRAVE 61 reports gear down, full stop, left...349.0 (I don't know if I missed BRAVE 62's landing earlier or if he's still holding out at Nottingham as they usually do since there can't be both alert aircraft out of service at the same time.)
1059: DC 21 tells DC 22 that ACK (Nantucket) might be a good place to turn around and come back....22 says he may go a bit further and tells 21 to work his own clearance to head on back whenever he's ready....378.1 (They are using this freq for interflight...said earlier they couldn't establish comms on interplane freq...apparently 21 has one bad radio and is asked if he's going to declare an emergency...no, he isn't. He just won't tie up one radio trying to call "Halfwick" - meaning Gatwick - on his HF radio).

1103: DC 21 tells DC 22 to go to 239.4 to get away from the chatter on 378.1....they go to 239.4 and establish comms.
1107: Here he is...BRAVE 62 to ADW Tower for landing runway 19L...349.0
 
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Lots of MilAir this afternoon from everywhere. Want to mention that C-32B from the 227th Special Operations Flight, PA-ANG McGuire, tail 00-9001 came into Andrews and landed at 1417 with Tower 118.4. He tried for about 20 minutes to contact Andrews CP on both 141.55 and 378.1 without success. He was noted using yet another new callsign - SWAMI 07
 

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1431 - VENUS 40 joining the final for RWY 25 at RIC <126.4>
1433 - VENUS 40 mentions he will be landing on RWY 25 then circling west for an approach to RWY 16 at RIC. <126.4>
1435 - VENUS 40 cleared to land RWY 25 <121.1>
1442 - "Potomac APP, VENUS 40 with you at 1.3 for 3,000 heading of 140". VENUS 40 is instructed to turn to 020. Mentions after final clearance, would like to pick up the outbound for their destiantion Patrick Henry. (Heads up Newport News) <126.4.>
1443 - VENUS 40, after take off, excpect vectors to HARCUM. <126.4.>
1447 - VENUS cleared for the VOR 16. <126.4>
1449 - VENUS 40 switch to tower. <126.4>
1449 - VENUS 40 7.5 out from the VOR to Rwy 16, option, then turn to the 140 to Patrick Henry. <121.1>
1453 - VENUS 40 climb to 3,000 switch to 126.4. <121.1>
1453 - VENUS 40 climbing through 3,000 to 5,000 direct HARCUM. <126.4>
 
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2300z/1900 local NAVY X-RAY-170 with dsn phone patch on (HF 11175 Offutt) enroute Norfolk eta 0145z req customs.

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MUSSEL helos have been active in the 20:00 hr timeframe, one comm was 03 & 08 to MUSSEL OPS on 141.7 (20:04) reporting ops normal, location Upperville.
MUSSEL 06 in the blind with ops normal, location Harper's Ferry @ 20:35 on 292.2
 
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I hearing MUSSELL-02, CHARGER-1, CHARGER-2 and FREIGHT TRAIN on 303.0

MUSSELL-02 mentions hovering over a reservoir in order to act as a comm relay for someone.
2103- I think there may be FREIGHT TRAIN-72 and CHARGER-75

2108- CHARGER mentions 'clear for extract'.

2224- RIDER-85 tail#066167 refueling with DC-23. 327.6 (AR205)

2320- REACH-2292 on 305.5 (AR219) looking for 80k.
 
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1144 - BATON 20 (EC-130J, 193rd SOW, PA-ANG Harrisburg) with HUNTRESS, level at 8000 feet - 295.8
1148 - SLUFF 63 (KC-135, Rickenbacker AFB OH) with HUNTRESS and BATON 20 - 295.8
 
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Re: Halfwick

Just a thought Tin, might actually be referring to Shanwick as opposed to Gatwick?

TinEar said:
earlier they couldn't establish comms on interplane freq...apparently 21 has one bad radio and is asked if he's going to declare an emergency...no, he isn't. He just won't tie up one radio trying to call "Halfwick" - meaning Gatwick - on his HF radio).
 

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NIGHTHAWK-18 has made several attempts to contact BLUEGRASS on 126.2. He ought to try UHF.
2059- BLUEGRASS calling NIGHTHAWK-18 on 241.0. 18 is too weak to make out but apparently said he already came and left.
2100- AR action on 274.45 too weak though.

2110- ACE-18 on 318.9, whatever this is. Hoping to hear more.
2115- "Jiggity, Marco, 18 inbound." I think this could be NIGHTHAWK-18 calling BASE, and not ACE as a callsign.
2123- Weaker. I think he said he's six minutes out. An HMX-1 Ops freq?
 
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