Sticky Thread for MilAir II

[TinEar]

Jordan, what are all those CT-156 Harvard II (T-6A) Canadian Air Force trainers doing out there in your area?

Speaking of Canadian Air Force, there was a CC-144, tail 144616, from 412 Squadron into this area at 1041 and out at 1211.

 

[jmhayes]

Jordan, what are all those CT-156 Harvard II (T-6A) Canadian Air Force trainers doing out there in your area?

Going home, I think

I had a gaggle of them in April, too. I think they like to do x-country trips here, I wonder why

 

[jmhayes]

So...JEST for Coronet West.

BTW, CACTI 61 just dragged BA 1-4 to Hawaii, so that one is still in use. Also had a WOODEN 11 with ARINC, so ...

 

[TinEar]

BTW, CACTI 61 just dragged BA 1-4 to Hawaii, so that one is still in use. Also had a WOODEN 11 with ARINC, so ...

...either thay haven't changed the Coronet West tanker callsigns yet - or aren't going to.

I think the 555th left this morning for the trip across the Atlantic. Heard there were some BOBBY tankers off the coast of Massachusetts around 1300Z.
BOBBY 21 and 31 KC-10As for the long haul and BOBBY 24 and 34 KC-135s for the off-the-coast fill up.

 

[jmhayes]

...either thay haven't changed the Coronet West tanker callsigns yet - or aren't going to

Well ... BOBBY is new, no?

 

[TinEar]

Well ... BOBBY is new, no?

I guess it is for trans-Atlantic but these guys are for the unusual situation of both trans-Pacific and Atlantic flying gas stations. BOBBY has been used in the past but I'm not sure for how long. It's not usually heard here on the East Coast. The KC-135s from Mildenhall have used it.

Just looked at what I have for BOBBY in my records and had a Robins KC-135R using it in this area this past May - May 4th to be precise.
The KC-10As using it this morning were both from McGuire and the KC-135s from the NE-ANG and PA-ANG.

Other records show BOBBY being used back to at least January 2006 so, no, it isn't new.

 

[jmhayes]

the unusual situation of both trans-Pacific and Atlantic flying gas stations

I read somewhere that this is actually two separate missions: a CORONET WEST followed by a CORONET EAST. Interesting they are using BOBBY for both ...

 

[BM82557]

Activity 10082007

1900 hour - BLUE 01 with McGuire CP reporting 1/2 hour out, write ups -- 319.4

 

[Mark]

Well ... BOBBY is new, no?

BOBBY along with QUID is usually used by the 100th ARW KC-135's at Mildenhall RAF base.
I notice lately though that McGuire and Travis KC-10's supporting aircraft into
Europe also now use that callsign.

Mark

 

[Mark]

BTW, CACTI 61 just dragged BA 1-4 to Hawaii, so that one is still in use. Also had a WOODEN 11 with ARINC, so ...

WOODEN 11 arrived McGuire around 0050z.Mentioned he was alpha 3 as reported
out of Hickam by his flying crew chiefs.Crew of 7.
Req engine run up spot.
You were right Jordan.They used the B-track to Hawaii.

BLUE 01 arrived hour earlier at McGuire from the West.
Prob more tanker support for remaining 555thFS headed home to Aviano.
Some more JEST flights heard eastbound by others today,prob to Burlington VT again.

Mark

 

[Mateo]

Just a single military aircraft heard this afternoon:
1617: -119.85- BOOT 46 (E-4 seen) over ELDEE vectors to Andrews. To 119.3

 

[TinEar]

Just a single military aircraft heard this afternoon:
1617: -119.85- BOOT 46 (E-4 seen) over ELDEE vectors to Andrews. To 119.3

That one was 73-1677. There was another E-4B in the area in the 1200 hour...75-0125.

BLUE 01 arrived hour earlier at McGuire from the West.
Prob more tanker support for remaining 555thFS headed home to Aviano.
Some more JEST flights heard eastbound by others today,prob to Burlington VT again.

The info I got on yesterday's 555th flight was wrong. They went into Wright-Patterson instead of Burlington. Only part of the flight left this morning. The remainder of the flight is supposed to depart tomorrow morning. Look for a BOBBY KC-10A flight bright and early in the a.m. out of McGuire to meet up with them. It's doubtful I'll be able to hear the fighters from my location but anyone 50-100 miles north of me has a good probability of getting a hit on them.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: PICANTE 10/TACO 12

Hi Mateo,

According to another monitor, this was TECATE 10 (he spelled it TACATE 10 but I'm pretty sure it's TECATE as it has been for this unit in the past), T-6A 05-3798/XL from the 84th FTS/47th FTW, and VACKA/VOCKA (my bet is on VACA) 12, T-6A 97-3017/XL 85th FTS/47th FTW.

Best regards,

Tony

Then, around 1845, I heard what sounded like PICANTE 10 and TACO 12 heading towards ADW on 119.85 and 119.3.

 

[TinEar]

0822: Langley F-22s operating offshore with Giant Killer...249.8 and 292.3
0825: REACH 391T (C-17A, 04-4132, 305th AMW McGuire) calling Quantico Base Ops...no joy to several calls...355.3
0827: Hearing Oceana Tower traffic this morning...360.2
0829: REACH 391T to Quantico Base Ops...reports 15 minutes out, A-1, needs parking and wants a message passed "to the user" that they want to upload upon arrival...355.3
0846: GINZU 21 (F-22A Langley) tells Giant Killer his 3-ship flight is ready to RTB Langley...249.8
0856: BLACKJACK 1 (HH-65 USCG) to Andrews Tower to let them know there will be a two ship flight working in the area...118.4
0857: NAVY SD-121 [female] (F/A-18F, 166449, VX-23 Patuxent NAS) with ZDC-Irons...checks in as a two-ship flight at FL 220...360.85

0901: NAVY SD-121 handed off to ZDC-Montebello and checks in at FL 220....requests lower (altitude)...284.7
UHF simulcasts of Potomac TRACON ground controllers VHF transmissions loud and clear this morning on 257.2 and 270.275.
0911: VENUS 24 (C-20B, 86-0204, 99th AS Andrews) to Andrews CP reports they'll be going to Patrick Henry and Richmond after playing in the pattern at ADW for a bit...378.1
0916: VENUS 24 doing an approach at Andrews with the option and will depart...118.4
0916: MARINE 474 (UC-35D, 166474, MAW-4) departing Andrews...118.95 (I think - didn't look fast enough)
0918: ROYAL 50 (C-17A, 06-6167, 436th AW Dover)...(heard on one of the Dover freqs...talking on the phone while listening to the radio are not compatible activities )
0920: NAVY AX997 (C-130T, 164997, VR-53) departs Andrews w/TRACON....118.95
0930: NAVY 299 departing Andrews (no idea who/what this one is)...w/TRACON...118.95

I thought it was going to be a busy day. It started out with the Raptors from Langley. False signal. 'Tis not a busy day....so far. I'll check back in a bit to see if it picks up. Almost 100% LBE activity at the moment.

0955: BOGEY (sounds like but not in my database) 99 with Philadelphia TRACON climbing (from Willow Grove?)....mentions he's got to maintain a speed of 320 - below that is not safe...291.7
0956: BOGEY 99 cleared from 8 to 10,000 feet and direct Modena...291.7
0957: BOGEY 99 handed to Philly TRACON and checks in passing 9 for 10,000 feet, requesting higher...319.15
1000: BOGEY 99 handed to ZNY-Modena and checks in at 10K requesting higher...cleared to FL 210 and then 260...335.6
1003: BOGEY 99 handed off to ZNY-Harrisburg and checks in at FL 240 climbing to 260...270.3
1004: BOGEY 99 requests direct FFO (Wright Patterson)....270.3
1009: BOGEY 99 cleared direct Wright-Patt...270.3
1011: BOGEY 99 handed to ZOB-Altoona RCAG and checks in at FL 260....363.075
And that was apparently the last heard transmission from BOGEY 99
Anyone from the Willow Grove contingent see that aircraft so we can slap an ID on him????

And now it's time to go back to the "I'll check back in a bit to see if it picks up" mode.

1049: A pair of KC-10A tankers from the 305th AMW McGuire on interplane chatting. They are 79-1947 (HOIST 93) and 79-1949 (HOIST 94)...139.875
1053: HOIST 94 to ZDC-Norfolk reporting at FL 240...133.825
1055: HOIST 94 to 93 to say they should call Dispatch since they're 30 minutes out...93 asks for the freq and 94 gives him 372.2...139.875
1056: HOIST 93 calls Dispatch...is answered by Andrews but says he wanted Seymour Johnson....SJ answers him and HOIST 93 says they are two KC-10s 30 minutes out...gives his own tail as 1947 and is A-1...then says HOIST 94 is right behind him, also A-1 and his tail is 1949....372.2 (Wish they'd all give their IDs so completely...wishful thinking.)

1102: BANK 51 flight (F-22A Langley) to Giant Killer to report RTB...249.8 (entered W-386 at 1028, same freq)

1111: COSMIC 41 flight (F-16, NJ-ANG Atlantic City) with Giant Killer to work in W-107..255.0
1112: COSMIC 41 reports switching to 312.3 for their work...255.0

If you hear a fixpoint in Virginia that you can't find at your favorite lookup site, there's a new one announced today:
WENBA (VA)
37-09-28.44 N
076-07-57.63 W
ARTCC: ZDC
Fix Type: MIL-WP
Charting: MILITARY IAP
(I converted it to decimal which gives me 37.1579 / -76.132675 and plotted it in the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay, roughly about halfway between Langley and the southern tip of VA's eastern shore. We may start hearing this one used by Langley jets coming in from the offshore areas although it's much closer to Langley than the other four fixpoints I hear them using - HEELS/RAPTR/TURET/ATLIC - all of which are out in the ocean.)

 

[BM82557]

Activity 10092007

1002 - somebody reporting mach 1.1 at FL 350 - 354.8

 

[CitationJet]

10.09.2007 am

Hi guys,

Just one from this morning's drive in...

PT = Potomac Consolidated TRACON
ZDC = Washington ARTCC

10.09.2007 am


1156Z 257.200 PT DEP - POISON 44- deps ADW 3000'-5000'-9000'-17000' dir LDN join J149 QSY ZDC-Linden 322.550..

Tony
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QTH: 6 nm. S KIAD/mobile around Northern Virginia
Radios: BCD396T, PRO-97, PRO-2055, BC3000XLT
Antennas: Maldol AL-500H, Watson W-901, Watson WSM-1900, RS Mobile, Comtelco Mobile

 

[jmhayes]

Anyone catch a callsign on the spooky C-32 this morning? I think he made a fuel stop at Travis; I had him descending out of FL200 to 11,300 over the course of a half an hour, so that looks like a descent into Travis. Usually if they come in from the ocean, I pick them up at FL370, so I'm not sure where he came from: maybe SoCal, but then that would usually be behind me ... hmmm.

 

[TinEar]

Anyone catch a callsign on the spooky C-32 this morning? I think he made a fuel stop at Travis; I had him descending out of FL200 to 11,300 over the course of a half an hour, so that looks like a descent into Travis. Usually if they come in from the ocean, I pick them up at FL370, so I'm not sure where he came from: maybe SoCal, but then that would usually be behind me ... hmmm.

I get fairly good distance with my antenna Jordan but that's a tad out of range for me - the best part of 3000 miles out of range. Was it meant for another forum perhaps?
On second thought, we DO have a worldwide list of readers of this thread. :roll:

 

[Bobcat091]

And that was apparently the last heard transmission from BOGEY 99
Anyone from the Willow Grove contingent see that aircraft so we can slap an ID on him????

Tin, Bogey was an F-5 from NAS Fallon, VFC-13. He came in last Friday.

 

[TinEar]

Tin, Bogey was an F-5 from NAS Fallon, VFC-13. He came in last Friday.

Thanks very much CJ. Much appreciated. Now I can add that callsign to my database with an ID.
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1155: SLAM 94 (C-17A, 05-5139, 729th AS March AFB CA) reports airborne from Andrews at 55 past the hour....late due to maintenance issues they were working...378.1
He flew south....a listener in Georgia heard him just after 1300 in that area.

Forgot to mention earlier that the remaining F-16s of the 555th Fighter Squadron did not leave Wright-Patterson this morning as planned. Apparently, there was a problem with their tanker. I was wondering why I didn't see anyone report BOBBY tankers active.