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[jetcrafter]

1902z BLUE 01 checking in with New York on 128.300. No idea which sectorthis is ......

Ref. Ed's question below, I think MAZDA 61 is 24h delayed and will try to make the crossing tomorrow.


René.

PS: Tin, nice catch on that AUX frequency !! Thanks, I corrected my times.

Rene,

Thanks for the heads up on these MAZDAs, really appreciate it!!!
To answer your question, I have 128.300 as a ZNY freq. The transmitter is at Ship Bottom.
Thanks for the answer about the 61 flight. Will try to listen tomorrow.

Dittos to Alan, thanks for finding the A/A freq!! Nice follow up posts Rene and Alan.
Love this list!

 

[coronet]

Thanks for the heads up on these MAZDAs, really appreciate it!!!
To answer your question, I have 128.300 as a ZNY freq. The transmitter is at Ship Bottom.
Thanks for the answer about the 61 flight. Will try to listen tomorrow.

Dittos to Alan, thanks for finding the A/A freq!! Nice follow up posts Rene and Alan.
Love this list!

Excellent Ed, and Alan thanks to both of you aswell. This list is indeed superb, real-time loggings and real-time comments at the same time !!

Will try to keep you guys updated on tomorrow's flight, signing off now.

Have a good weekend everyone !


René.

 

[TinEar]

[Continued from above...character limit reached so had to start new message. I also lost a couple of lines of comments during the switch from that message to this]

1507: TANKER 02 tells ARROW 13 that the Sentry is coming in to control this CAP...wants to know if they want fuel before he goes to the AWACS...269.5
1508: TANKER 02 asks HUNTRESS for the ETA of the next tanker since the ARROWs are going to come to him for gas...cleared to give them gas...139.7
1511: The carrier shuts down on 228.9 and comes up on Guard Dog freq 350.25...it's definitely from TANKER 02 since he comes up on 350.25 and tells Guard Dog they're not going to like it but they're going to top off the ARROW flight and then move to SENTRY 41 who is about 150 miles out.
1511: ARROW 13 and 14 make contact with TANKER 02 to begin the refueling...ARROW 13 says they won't need more than about 7K each...269.5
1517: TANKER 02 to HUNTRESS to say he's almost done refueling ARROW 13/14...wants a vector and freq for SENTRY 41...139.7
The carrier from TANKER 02's radio has stayed on the 350.25 freq so it isn't bothering anyone now. They bright guys at NORAD never did figure out why it was happening apparently or that it was coming from one of TANKER 02's radios.
1519: TANKER 02 to HUNTRESS repeats freq 228.9 and says he's standing by there...139.7 (He switches the radio that was on 350.25 to 228.9 and there's the carrier going with him)
1520: ARROW 13 clears off the boom and descends to FL 220...269.5
1520: TANKER 02 to HUNTRESS to say no joy on 228.9 (Hah!!!) so goes back to VHF...says they're (guess he means the E-3) holding over MOntebello and asks if they should go to that point...says with HUNTRESS' blessing he will proceed to SENTRY 41, off the gas and RTB to Seymour...139.7
1522: TANKER 02 to Guard Dog cleared to Montebello, Seymour Johnson and will work out the refueling clearance in a minute...269.5
1522: TANKER 02 moves to 260.9 (bringing carrier with him) and calls SENTRY 41...260.9
1523: TANKER 02 to HUNTRESS to say no joy with SENTRY 41 on 260.9 and he'll try to work it out with ATC...139.7
1524: TANKER 02 to Guard dog to say he'll use 269.5 if necessary...ARROWs are chatting on 228.9....TANKER 02 also on HUNTRESS freq 139.7 again asking for guidance.
The carrier has gone away from the 260.9 freq...wonder where it will show up...here it is on 269.5 as TANKER 02 tries to contact Guard Dog. This would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
1527: ARROWs decide to push 8 Prime and come up calling on 350.25
1527: SENTRY 41 trying to call on 260.9...makes contact with TANKER 02...all normal here since he left the carrier on 269.6
1528: ARROW 13 and 14 agree everything has quieted down since the tanker left...they're getting it figured out...228.9
1529: ARROW 13 and 14 go to 260.9 and call HUNTRESS where comms are loud and clear for both of them...260.9 (Just wait a minute guys!)
1530: SENTRY 41 calling TANKER 02...no joy...260.9
1531: ARROW are to come up on 288.35 according to TANKER 02...350.25
1532: TANKER 02 to HUNTRESS saying there's a stuck mic on 350.25 and they relayed to have ARROWs come up on 288.35...139.7 (They still don't know that stuck mic is them)
The ARROWs are happy as clams on 260.9 for now.
1533: TANKER 02 calling SENTRY 41...269.5 (carrier back there for now)
1536: SENTRY 41 calling TANKER 02...no joy...260.9
1536: ARROW 13 asking HUNTRESS for time of next tanker arrival...260.9
BT now, the carrier from TANKER 02 is down to 4 S meter bars as he moves south and out of this area.
1536: SENTRY 41 confirmed again as E-3C, 79-0003 (backend BANDSAW-Lima)...he's at FL 231 according to Mode-S and squawking 7203 just as was passed earlier by HUNTRESS to TANKER 02.

[[If my friend at NORAD is reading, please relay to the Weapons Section guys that it's TANKER 02 causing the problem with one of his radios]]

TANKER 02 was supposed to give SENTRY 41 somewhere between 32 and 34K of gas so he could operate in this area in case HUNTRESS still couldn't contact the ARROW fighters to give them directions to TOIs if needed. Once TANKER 02 is totally out of the area, they should realize that bringing SENTRY 41 in this area for that purpose was not needed. SENTRY 41 never was able to make contact with TANKER 02 so I'm not sure what happened with the AR op scheduled between them.
1542: TANKER 02's carrier signal down to 2 bars at this time and starting to fade. It keeps going on and off like perhaps they're working on it in the tanker. Or perhaps it's going off when he switches that radio to a new ATC freq. I didn't even attempt to follow the tanker through the ATCs.
1544: ARROW 13/14 have good comms still with HUNTRESS as expected now...they went through a small problem with the datalink - especially aboard 14 but all seems fixed now they should both be timber sweet in the link...260.9
1544: In fact, ARROW 13 reports showing timber sweet on ARROW 14...260.9
Lost the Mode-S signal from TANKER 02 at 1542...he was at FL 250 and squawking 5311 as he left.
1547: ARROW 13 tells HUNTRESS they have "1 plus 30" (90 minutes) playtime and wants to know when the next tanker is arriving...260.9

1603: ARROW 13 reports "1+15" on the fuel...260.9
1603: SENTRY 41 is also working his way back up to this area from the south...he must have met up with TANKER 02 down around Montebello as planned, taken on his fuel and is coming back for duty - only to be told that everything is fine now, sorry, go home. :lol:
Time for a little break here. Nothing happening at the moment. As mentioned below, I'm expecting TANKER 03 to be 58-0008 from the 133rd ARS at Pease to be arriving soon. Will continue in a new message below.

I didn't log the departure of EGY 1101, the Egyptian AF C-130H, registration 1294/SU-BKT, that came into BWI. He departed at 1544. He took off with the callsign programmed as "00000000" in his transponder but quickly realized it and changed it to "EGY1101" as it should be. If only our guys were that observant.

Ref Ed (jetcrafter) below: Thanks Ed. Yes, TANKER 03 is airborne and his tail is 58-0008. I'm expecting him.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: 01.16.2009

Guys,

Tin did a great job of the HUNTRESS Guard Dog CAP freq scramble this afternoon, I monitored that activity between 1913Z when ARROW 13 checked in the PT GUARD DOG 350.250 @ FL230 and just a few minutes ago.

TANKR 02 said that the 149.325 freq had been given to them as a discrete; also requested HUNTRESS if in comms with ARROW 13 to come up on 288.350 - that was @ 2030Z on 350.250. Per TANKR 02, SENTRY 41 was holding at MOL VORTAC and T2 would proceed to MOL VORTAC to offload gas if req. then RTB SJAFB. 139.700 @ 2021Z.

Also impressive was the lineup of three KC-135Rs (BAT 52, RATS 44 and BAT 51) all in succession on 118.675 beginning 1905Z inbound Andrews. All three checked in one after the other on 378.100 with arrival messages, plus ROPER 90 on 139.300 @ 1903Z getting parking info and BISON 88 on 119.850 @ 1929Z for 1L.

C-37A 01-0028 @ IAD.

 

[jetcrafter]

1547: ARROW 13 tells HUNTRESS they have "1 plus 30" (90 minutes) playtime and wants to know when the next tanker is arriving...260.9

Alan,
GREAT LOGS!! Love reading them.

To answer ARROW 13's question.... TANKER 03 just took off from Pease now at 2048z He'll be there soon!
2056z 118.425 He asked ZBW if they could expedite due to mission and requested direct DCA instead of Hampton. ZBW said yes.
2107z 364.200 Calling HUNTRESS, didn't hear any conversation after two calls.
2111z 124.525 Check in with ZBW FL300 ....... He's getting close, Alan You should hear him by now.

 

[mdmonitor]

[Continued from above...character limit reached so had to start new message. I also lost a couple of lines of comments during the switch from that message to this]

1507: TANKER 02 tells ARROW 13 that the Sentry is coming in to control this CAP...wants to know if they want fuel before he goes to the AWACS...269.5
1508: TANKER 02 asks HUNTRESS for the ETA of the next tanker since the ARROWs are going to come to him for gas...cleared to give them gas...139.7
1511: The carrier shuts down on 228.9 and comes up on Guard Dog freq 350.25...it's definitely from TANKER 02 since he comes up on 350.25 and tells Guard Dog they're not going to like it but they're going to top off the ARROW flight and then move to SENTRY 41 who is about 150 miles out.
1511: ARROW 13 and 14 make contact with TANKER 02 to begin the refueling...ARROW 13 says they won't need more than about 7K each...269.5
1517: TANKER 02 to HUNTRESS to say he's almost done refueling ARROW 13/14...wants a vector and freq for SENTRY 41...139.7
The carrier from TANKER 02's radio has stayed on the 350.25 freq so it isn't bothering anyone now. They bright guys at NORAD never did figure out why it was happening apparently or that it was coming from one of TANKER 02's radios.
1519: TANKER 02 to HUNTRESS repeats freq 228.9 and says he's standing by there...139.7 (He switches the radio that was on 350.25 to 228.9 and there's the carrier going with him)
1520: ARROW 13 clears off the boom and descends to FL 220...269.5
1520: TANKER 02 to HUNTRESS to say no joy on 228.9 (Hah!!!) so goes back to VHF...says they're (guess he means the E-3) holding over MOntebello and asks if they should go to that point...says with HUNTRESS' blessing he will proceed to SENTRY 41, off the gas and RTB to Seymour...139.7
1522: TANKER 02 to Guard Dog cleared to Montebello, Seymour Johnson and will work out the refueling clearance in a minute...269.5
1522: TANKER 02 moves to 260.9 (bringing carrier with him) and calls SENTRY 41...260.9
1523: TANKER 02 to HUNTRESS to say no joy with SENTRY 41 on 260.9 and he'll try to work it out with ATC...139.7
1524: TANKER 02 to Guard dog to say he'll use 269.5 if necessary...ARROWs are chatting on 228.9....TANKER 02 also on HUNTRESS freq 139.7 again asking for guidance.
The carrier has gone away from the 260.9 freq...wonder where it will show up...here it is on 269.5 as TANKER 02 tries to contact Guard Dog. This would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
1527: ARROWs decide to push 8 Prime and come up calling on 350.25
1527: SENTRY 41 trying to call on 260.9...makes contact with TANKER 02...all normal here since he left the carrier on 269.6
1528: ARROW 13 and 14 agree everything has quieted down since the tanker left...they're getting it figured out...228.9
1529: ARROW 13 and 14 go to 260.9 and call HUNTRESS where comms are loud and clear for both of them...260.9 (Just wait a minute guys!)
1530: SENTRY 41 calling TANKER 02...no joy...260.9
1531: ARROW are to come up on 288.35 according to TANKER 02...350.25
1532: TANKER 02 to HUNTRESS saying there's a stuck mic on 350.25 and they relayed to have ARROWs come up on 288.35...139.7 (They still don't know that stuck mic is them)
The ARROWs are happy as clams on 260.9 for now.
1533: TANKER 02 calling SENTRY 41...269.5 (carrier back there for now)
1536: SENTRY 41 calling TANKER 02...no joy...260.9
1536: ARROW 13 asking HUNTRESS for time of next tanker arrival...260.9
BT now, the carrier from TANKER 02 is down to 4 S meter bars as he moves south and out of this area.
1536: SENTRY 41 confirmed again as E-3C, 79-0003 (backend BANDSAW-Lima)...he's at FL 231 according to Mode-S and squawking 7203 just as was passed earlier by HUNTRESS to TANKER 02.

[[If my friend at NORAD is reading, please relay to the Weapons Section guys that it's TANKER 02 causing the problem with one of his radios]]

TANKER 02 was supposed to give SENTRY 41 somewhere between 32 and 34K of gas so he could operate in this area in case HUNTRESS still couldn't contact the ARROW fighters to give them directions to TOIs if needed. Once TANKER 02 is totally out of the area, they should realize that bringing SENTRY 41 in this area for that purpose was not needed. SENTRY 41 never was able to make contact with TANKER 02 so I'm not sure what happened with the AR op scheduled between them.
1542: TANKER 02's carrier signal down to 2 bars at this time and starting to fade. It keeps going on and off like perhaps they're working on it in the tanker. Or perhaps it's going off when he switches that radio to a new ATC freq. I didn't even attempt to follow the tanker through the ATCs.
1544: ARROW 13/14 have good comms still with HUNTRESS as expected now...they went through a small problem with the datalink - especially aboard 14 but all seems fixed now they should both be timber sweet in the link...260.9
1544: In fact, ARROW 13 reports showing timber sweet on ARROW 14...260.9
Lost the Mode-S signal from TANKER 02 at 1542...he was at FL 250 and squawking 5311 as he left.
1547: ARROW 13 tells HUNTRESS they have "1 plus 30" (90 minutes) playtime and wants to know when the next tanker is arriving...260.9

Tin,

Even had some xmissions from Potomac w/unid helo on 126.55 about the stuck mikes.

 

[BM82557]

Guard Dog stuck mic

Rgr everyone above:

260.9/228.9/350.25/269.5

next to impossible to follow the 4 freqs above due to Tanker 2's problem.

 

[freqhopping]

1148- Raven Ops (165.2375)-w/N593PC advising they have talked to "Guardian" and that Guardian is waiting to hear from them. N593PC advises that they have their UHF freq 350.025. They obviously mean Guard Dog (DC CAP controller) rather than Guardian.

Not necessarily. "GUARDIAN" is the callsign used by the U.S. Army Military District of Washington JNCR HQ. GUARDIAN is suffixed with NATO phonetics for the various units that comprise it. I heard GUARDIAN-XRAY on one of the DC IO frequencies yesterday. They will also be heard on the 4## range of talkgroups on the JNCR 380mhz system. Talkgroup 450 is "GUARDIAN OPS".

1640- FBI N2092S Cessna 210 is airborne at ~3200ft and descending.
1648- IDAHO-92 landing at Manassas.
OMAHA-10 is busy trying to ID a boat heading up the Potomac near Ft. Washington. Can't make out any ID. 350.025 Blue-3
They did say they it had a Union Jack on it.

DC-52 and 96 are inbound to ADW. I have 10 mil flights showing on my RB. Busy day.

 

[TinEar]

Back with a fresh cup of hot coffee in hand...

1630: TANKER 03 (KC-135R, 58-0008, 133rd ARS NH-ANG Pease) entering the area at FL 300. (Mode-S hit, not following him on VHF ATC freqs)
1635: BLACKJACK 2 (female...HH-65C USCG Station Washington/DCA) up with HUNTRESS...139.7
1638: TANKER 03 starting his descent to the area...through FL 290 and dropping. He's squawking 1413 in his Mode 3 transponder.
1643: TANKER 03 only got down to FL 280 and is proceeding to the Guard Dog area....starting down again, must have just gotten clearance for lower....down to 270 by 1645....260 at 1646 and that's where he stops for now.
1648: TANKER 03 now at FL 250 and continuing to 240 which is entry altitude for Guard Dog (when there isn't another tanker in there or he'd be stopped at 250).
1650: ARROW 13 just repeated "SKATER 7, tanker of choice"....260.9 (I suspect they launched SKATER 07, the Alert Tanker on duty at McGuire since TANKER 03 was so long getting here. I've got 62-3508, a KC-135R from the 108th ARW at McGuire in the area at FL 230 and I'd bet he's the SKATER 07)
1650: And here he is...TANKER 03 checks in with Potomac at FL 240...126.55
1651: ARROWs report 12,800 and 12,700 fuel remainders...13 tells 14 he'll clear him off first to go to the tanker when he gets in...260.9
1653: TANKER 03 checks in with HUNTRESS...260.9
1654: Yup...SKATER 07 checks in with Guard Dog at FL 230...126.55 (SKATER 07 squawking 1512 in his Mode 3)
1655: SKATER 07 asking Guard Dog if he's cleared into the airspace...says he'd like FL 240 but is told to stay at 230...126.55 (Guess he doesn't know about TANKER 03 being here too. He's going to be delighted to know he was launched for nothing.)
1656: ARROW 14 asking HUNTRESS if that's SKATER 07 off to his right...260.9
1658: SKATER 07 gets cleared into the area in the block 210-250...126.55
Okay, so we've got two KC-135 tankers in the Guard Dog area...let them duke it out I guess to see who's the alpha dog of tankers.
Oh hell...just noticed on Mode-S that both tankers are now at FL 240. Not good.

1702: ARROW 14 tells 13 that he'll be the first into the tankers since he's tally with it...260.9
1702: ARROW 13 trying to establish comms with SKATER 07 on both 260.9 and 350.25 but no joy...not sure where 07 is operating.
1703: TANKER 03 to Guard Dog asking the altitude for SKATER 07...oops...says they're both at co-altitude 240 and wants to get a message to SKATER 07...126.55
1704: SKATER 07 makes contact w/HUNTRESS and says he'll be at FL 235...260.9
1705: SKATER 07 is answering calls on the CAP refueling freq (277.35) which is why no one is hearing him...ARROW 13 calls him on 260.9.
1705: SKATER 07 to HUNTRESS to tell him to have the fighters come up on 277.35....ARROW 13 tells HUNTRESS he's pushing boom freq 277.35 in the AUX...260.9
1706: ARROW 13/SKATER 07 make contact on the boom freq...13 tells boomer he's looking for 13K which will be a topoff...277.35
Meanwhile, TANKER 03 must be up there wondering why the hell he came out in this freezing weather just to fly circles with no work.
By the way, SKATER 07 has dropped back down to FL 230 to deconflict with TANKER 03.
1713: ARROW 13 off the boom and going back to HUNTRESS...277.35
1714: ARROW 14 reports he's going to begin running an intercept on the boom...shows tanker at 163 degrees, 36 miles....13 tells 14 he's cleared to boom freq 277.35 when necessary...260.9
1714: ARROW 14 and SKATER 07 make contact on boom freq...14 says he's coming south for rejoin...07 says he's coming north...277.35
1716: ARROW 14 reports radar contact...07 tells him he's cleared for pre-contact...then 14 reports tanker is visual...277.35
1717: SKATER 07's boomer asks ARROW 14 for his Mode 3...reply is 3414...277.35
1718: ARROW 14 asks 07's boomer if he's the lead tanker or the trailing tanker....07 replies that he's the one at FL 230....ARROW 13 pops in to say SKATER 07 is the lead tanker and 14 says he figured that out...277.35
1720: SKATER 07 to HUNTRESS to say he's got TANKER 03 behind him...wants to know if he's going to be released after refueling these guys...also says he's got a long way to go (Not sure what that means since he's from McGuire or maybe he meant until his shift is done or even that he's got another mission somewhere else. Who knows?)...260.9
1724: SKATER 07 to HUNTRESS to say that after giving this fuel to ARROW 14, he has another 10K to give away...says he was scheduled to be up there another hour unless they can give it away to another receiver (meaning the extra 10K)....told something by HUNTTRESS and then says he'll stay up here in case he's needed....ARROW 13 pops in to say in another half hour they can take about 5K each and that will let SKATER 07 slide on out of here....SKATER 07 jumps in with a, "thanks ARROW."...260.9
1727: ARROW 14 off the boom and reports going back to HUNTRESS...277.35
1728: ARROW 13 tells 14 of the plan to take about 5K each in about a half hour so SKATER 07 can land...260.9
1730: TANKER 03 to HUNTRESS..."Just curious, did TANKER 02 break?"...260.9 (He doesn't want to know!)
1736: ARROW 13 and 14 report fuel remainders of 19,600 and 20,700 pounds respectively...260.9
1737: TANKER 03's boomer trying to contact SKATER 07's boomer...no joy...277.35 (guess he was getting lonely and wanted a little chat)
1741: ARROW 13 trying to contact "SKATE 7" ...says he's ready for an offload of 6000...asks if posit is 138/12/230...SKATER 07 says. "That's us"...260.9
1743: SKATER 07 and ARROW 13 make contact on boom freq...13 reports tally the tanker 6 miles to the west...277.35
1745: ARROW 13 reports in 1/2 mile trail...07 clears him for pre-contact...13 asks 07 to confirm if he's at 230 or 240...230 is the reply and 13 confirms posit...277.35
1747: ARROW 13 says he's at FL 240 behind the tanker...07 advises him that he's the LOW tanker...13 still isn't sure he's got the right guy so asks him to confirm heading...13 says he's turning left through 270...13 has him...277.35
1749: BLACKJACK 1 for a check on HUNTRESS freq...139.7
1749: ARROW 13 reports he has only one tanker at FL 240...wants to know where TANKER 03 is....07 tells gives him his current course...asks if 13 wants to come up 29Y (Yankee) TACAN (for positive ID)...277.35
1751: After a few more position comments from SKATER 07, ARROW 13 says he has him at 188/25/230 and SKATER 07 confirms that's him...07 reports starting a left hand turn and 13 reports he is in a 7 mile trail...277.35
1752: SKATER 07 to HUNTRESS to say if TANKER 03 wants to monitor them, they're on 277.35...TANKER 03 pops in to say, "3's up"...260.9 (He's been listening in the entire time)
1755: ARROW 13 reports in 1/2 mile trail...07 clears him for pre-contact...277.35

1800: ARROW 13 off the boom...says ARROW 14 is 50 miles to the south and tells 07 if he wants to turn that way (and leaves it there)...277.35
These guys are obviously using the boom intercom when they meet up with the tanker.
1801: ARROW 14 cleared to head to the boom of SKATER 07...14 asks if the tanker is in the north...he is...260.9
1804: HUNTRESS asks TANKER 03 about is fuel offload amounts...03 replies that he's got about 70K but how much they can offload depends on how long they'll be here...he also stresses he has 70K now but that doesn't take into account if they have to be here for six hours burning 10K an hour themselves...260.9
1805: ARROW 14 makes contact with SKATER 07 trying to establish his position...07 tells him 180/39 but then 14 says he's in 5 mile trail...07 will begin a left hand turn...277.35 (The 180 degrees, 39 miles is from the bullseye, not from the fighter)
1807: TANKER 03 says he's going to come up about 15K short on fuel (based on what HUNTRESS must have told him his VOL time is going to be) and asks if SKATER 07 can stay in the area...260.9
1808: ARROW 13 asks HUNTRESS if he has any words if more fighters are coming....then replies that the fuel they took should be the last they'll need...260.9
1814: ARROW 14 off the boom after taking 6,000 pounds...back to HUNTRESS freq...277.35
1815: TANKER 03 has been trying to figure his offload...just said 48K is it (based on what HUNTRESS must have given him for on station time)...260.9
1816: ARROW 13 tells 14 to go into "max endure" mode (slow down, conserve fuel)...says ARROW 15 is about 20 minutes out...wants to get by with the fuel they've got currently on board...also adds that they're having maintenance issues he guesses and SKATER 07 has to stay around...260.9

Time for more coffee. If/when I return, I'll start a new message since this one is getting buried.

Late 1700 hour I have a BK117 Eurocopter (N461AE) belonging to EADS North American Defense. No idea what he's doing other than flying at 9,000 feet.
Also have 13 Canadian registered aircraft being logged as we come up to the 1800 hour.

Ref Ed below: I didn't have anything that matches up with TURF 31 that I see to help with the ID.

 

[jetcrafter]

Help Please - Mode S people

I have a TERRA or TURF 31 passing through here now just switched from my local ZBW 128.200 to
133.450. My question is - have any of you heard or had him show up on you boxes??
It is really hard to understand his callsign. Sometimes it sounds like TURF 31. Hoping
you guys had either TERRA or TURF pass through to help me clear this up!

**UPDATE**
2207z Heard him check in with Moncton Center on 123.900 and it was clear..... TURF 31.

Thanks anyway guys. I answered my own question.

 

[mdmonitor]

Not necessarily. "GUARDIAN" is the callsign used by the U.S. Army Military District of Washington JNCR HQ. GUARDIAN is suffixed with NATO phonetics for the various units that comprise it. I heard GUARDIAN-XRAY on one of the DC IO frequencies yesterday. They will also be heard on the 4## range of talkgroups on the JNCR 380mhz system. Talkgroup 450 is "GUARDIAN OPS".

1640- FBI N2092S Cessna 210 is airborne at ~3200ft and descending.
1648- IDAHO-92 landing at Manassas.
OMAHA-10 is busy trying to ID a boat heading up the Potomac near Ft. Washington. Can make out any ID. 350.025 Blue-3

DC-52 and 96 are inbound to ADW. I have 10 mil flights showing on my RB. Busy day.

Travis,

Thanks for the clarification on Guardian & Guard Dog. When the talked about Guardian and 350.25 I just thought they had confused it w/Guard Dog

 

[bmlure]

ARROW guys are using 277.35

 

[LPReppert]

Not necessarily. "GUARDIAN" is the callsign used by the U.S. Army Military District of Washington JNCR HQ. GUARDIAN is suffixed with NATO phonetics for the various units that comprise it. I heard GUARDIAN-XRAY on one of the DC IO frequencies yesterday. They will also be heard on the 4## range of talkgroups on the JNCR 380mhz system. Talkgroup 450 is "GUARDIAN OPS".

1640- FBI N2092S Cessna 210 is airborne at ~3200ft and descending.
1648- IDAHO-92 landing at Manassas.
OMAHA-10 is busy trying to ID a boat heading up the Potomac near Ft. Washington. Can make out any ID. 350.025 Blue-3

DC-52 and 96 are inbound to ADW. I have 10 mil flights showing on my RB. Busy day.

Anymore follow-up on OMAHA-10?

 

[CitationJet]

01.16.2009

Some other items while I was out and about the latter part of this afternoon...

2104Z 118.675 PT A/D - BAT 51 - to FL190 dir EYTEE QSY ZDC-Linden 133.550.
2108Z 118.950 PT DEP - PAT 8009 - off Davison 1200'-2000'-5000' to 11000' dir HAFNR.
2112Z 118.950 PT DEP - PAT 267 - off Davison 1300'-2000'-5000' QSY PT DEP 125.650.
2117Z 119.850 PT APP - PAT 2402 - ILS rwy 32 @ Davison.
2135Z 141.550 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - JOSA 116 - C-21A 84-0130 arr. msg.
2139Z 128.350 PT APP - JOSA 116 - vis. app rwy 1L @ Andrews.
2149Z 119.850 PT APP - NAVY 376 - 10000' ILS 1L @ Andrews.
2150Z 128.350 PT APP - DC 52 - 16700'-12000' req. 5 nm. init. o/h rwy 1R then fs.
2151Z 378.100 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - BISON 88 - dep Andrews 2145Z.
2153Z 351.200 LIBERATOR CP Andrews - DC 96 clg DC 52, then relay arr. msg. for DC52, then 52 pops up with the call as well. Some of the discussion faded but one ship asked the other something about Alpena.

That's it for me, off bizjet spotting tomorrow through to Tuesday!

 

[freqhopping]

Anymore follow-up on OMAHA-10?

Like what? All I know now is that it's not flying around anymore. I don't see any other DHS/ICE/CBP aircraft around either.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: OMAHA 10

He was up on 119.850 w/PT DEP asking to "check something out" in the 2130Z-2145Z timeframe.

Good old radio...))

Like what? All I know now is that it's not flying around anymore. I don't see any other DHS/ICE/CBP aircraft around either.

 

[mdmonitor]

Logs, 16 Jan

Gonna call it quits for now---long day at the radio

ACY-Atlantic City NJ
ADW- Andrews AFB MD
BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
DOV- Dover AFB DE
GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
MTN-Martin State Airport, Baltimore
NGTF-Northrop-Grumman Test Facility, Baltimore
NXX- Willow Grove JRB PA
PAX-NAS Patuxent River MD
PTC- Potomac Area TRACON
WRI-McGuire AFB NJ
ZBW-Boston ARTCC
ZDC- Washington ARTCC
ZNY- New York ARTCC

1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EST))

((Thanks to Tin Ear for several acft idents))

0716- Navy 648-depart ADW (125.65)
0730- Army 301 (UC-35 # 01-0301, OSACOM ADW)-depart ADW (118.95) Returns to ADW in the early 1500 hour.
0947- Nighthawk 5 (prob H-3, HMX-1 MCAF Quantico VA)-check in w/Wash helo (134.35)
0958- Devil 01 (F-16, 119th FS NJ ANG ACY)-check in w/PTC (317.425). Sqdn cmndr ?
1006- Rider 75 (C-17, 3rd AS 436th AMW DOV)-w/unheard acft Soda 82 (KC-135R 134th ARW, TN ANG Knoxville TN) trying to arrange AAR rendezvous (274.45).
1009- Venus 94 (C-32A # 99-0004, 1st AS ADW)-check in w/ZDC (133.9) cleared up to FL250---enroute to Wilmington NC
1011- N360TL (Britten-Islander, NGTF)-w/Northrop Base (123.225)
1012- Scary flt (F-16s, 121st FS DSC ANG ADW)-on W386 common (312.3) and on sqdn freq (143.6) in ACM training.
1013- Convoy 4342 (US Navy C-40)-w/Griffin CP (141.55)--land at ADW (118.4)
1015- Huntress (228.9)-w/Pelican 01 (prob P-3C VP-45 NAS Jacksonville FL). Huntress advises Pelican 01 that the downlink freq is 145.2 GHZ (sic). Pelican asks Huntress to relay to Colonel 1 (unid) that they
have tried all satellite links w/no joy.
1023- Goliath (E-3B AWACS, Tinker AFB OK)-check in w/GK (255.0) advising that their acft, Wild (F-16s, 121st FS DSC ANG ADW) & Scary (F-16s, 121st FS DSC ANG ADW) flts have all left the area and
that the Devil (F-16s, 119th FS NJ ANG ACY) & Bison (F-16s, 119th FS NJ ANG ACY) flts are not with them. Goliath advises that they will be orbiting in W107 for a few more minutes.
1029- Tester 14 (T-38C # 6704943, NTPS PAX--foreign Slavic sounding pilot) & Tester 12 (T-38C #15-8200, NTPS PAX)-working w/BW (256.5)
1037- PAT 67-w/Leesburg Radio (255.4) requesting wx for Hagerstown MD.
1042- N139HS (US Customs AB139,MTN)-w/Baltimore Sector (165.2375) reporting they are airborne off of MTN enroute to North Philly and asks Sector to notify Customs AMOC.
1058- Titus 52 (C-130T, VR-53, ADW)-w/PTC (119.3)
1059- JOSA 157 (C-21, 457th AS ADW)-w/Griffin CP (141.55) w/departure msg.
1104- Huntress (228.9)-w/Goliath Alpha (E-3B AWACS, Tinker AFB OK) asking if they have contacted Pelican 01 ---Goliath advises no joy w/Pelican 01. Huntress advises Goliath to contact Pelican 01 on 324.0
1107- Pelican 01-w/Jaguar (unid-unheard) on discrete (324.0) advising that Pelican 01 has1hr 20 mins of time left on station. Pelican 01 avises Jaguar that they will be "down here" in about 2 hours to work
w/Sand Hog (unid)
1109- Goliath Alpha-calling Pelican 01 on 324.0. Goliath asks Pelican 01 if they can go "green" on this freq to which Pelican 01 advises that they can but it'll take a couple of mins to set it up.Goliath signs off
w/Pelican 01 advising that Huntress has nothing further but that they will be standing by.
1118- N593PC (US Customs PC-12)-called by Raven Ops (165.2375). N593PC advises that the ATC controller was not aware of their filed flt plan. N593PC advises that they personally had filed flt plan with the ATC supervisor but that the word was not handed down.N593PC is using callsign Omaha 10 advises that the controller was just handed the paperwork so they are good to go.
1122- NASA 967 (T-38C Johnson Space Center, TX)-w/PTC (128.35)
1123- Goliath-w/Pelican 01 (324.0) askling kind of unit that callsign Sand Hog is---Pelican 01 advises that Sand Hog is a Rover TC (???). Goliath responds that they are an Echo 3.
1134- Pelican 01 (324.0)-w/Jaguar (unid) asking about distance between them the Rover so that they can ensure that the live video feed is good.
1139- Pelican 01 (324.0)-responding to unheard question states that they are operating under command of the Air Force North supporting the Nat'l Capitol Region Joint Task Force.
1148- Raven Ops (165.2375)-w/N593PC advising they have talked to "Guardian" and that Guardian is waiting to hear from them. N593PC advises that they have their UHF freq 350.25. They obviously mean
Guard Dog (DC CAP controller) rather than Guardian. Raven Ops also passes freq of 157.15 (chnl 23A) to contact Coast Guard.
1208- N4784M (BEECH 95-B55)-w/BW (119.275) for entry into R4005 to work w/Echo Control.
1247- Omaha 10 (Customs PC-12 N593PC, MTN)-w/PAX approach (120.05) wants to transit area to Point Lookout then refuel at Salisbury Airport.
1255- N160W (T-39 Sabreliner NGTF)-w/Northrop Base (123.225).
1306- Northrop Base (123.225) calling N164W (BAC-1-11, NGTF).
1312- Venus 23 (C-20B # 86-0203, 99th AS ADW)-depart ADW (118.4 & 125.65).
1314- Pelican 01-w/PTC (124.55) cleared direct to ADW for further instructions.
1317- Mad Dog flt (F-22 LANGLEY AFB)-check into W386 (249.8) then on discrete (292.3) in ACM training.
1318- Lobo 06 (C-9B VMR-1, MCAS Cherry Point, NC)-w/PTC (128.35) land at ADW (118.4)
1320- Tanker 02 (DC CAP tanker)-w/Huntress (260.9) checking in early at FL250.
1321- Pelican 01-w/PTC (125.65) for clearance to orbit over ADW for 45 mins to perform operational checks with unid ground units.Pelican 01 working w/unid station(s) on 324.0 reporting they are streaming
directional to the ground position and they QSL the "handshake."
1454- Tanker 02 and Arrow flt (DC CAP-F-15, Tyndall AFB FL)-checks on CP discrete (269.5). Tanker 02 also w/Huntress (139.7)
1500- Tanker 02 and Arrow 13- trying to contact Huntress (228.9)
1508- Tanker 02 and Arrow 13 on discrete (269.5) arranging AAR before Tanker 02 RTB's.
1514- Evac 33115 (id as C-17 # 03-3115, MS ANG, 172AW)-w/inbound msg. Needs Customs & Ag. Departs ADW (125.65) at 1718.
1522- Coast Guard 6501 (HH-65C, CGAS ACY)-w/MTN tower (121.3) enroute to Baltimore for pax drop off then will return to MTN to refuel.
1524- Tanker 02-calling Sentry 41 (E-3C AWACS # 79-0003 , Tinker AFB OK) on DC CAP primary (260.9)
1533- Arrow 13-wGuard Dog (350.25) advises they are trying to contact Huntress on 260.9. For the last 30 mins or so there have been open carriers/stuck mikes on 260.9, 269.5 & 228.9
1535- N161NG (BAC-1-11, NGTF)-check in w/PAX approach (120.05) for clearance to work at low level in the Smith Island/Vienna areas.
1542- Pacer 08 (C-21, 457th AS ADW)-w/PTC (119.3) land at ADW (118.4)
1548- Baton 91 (EC-130J, 193rd SOG PA ANG Harrisburg)-w/Baton Ops (395.1) w/inbound msg.
1556- Raven Ops (165.2375)- calling Omaha 40HS ((US Customs AB140 #N140HS) w/no response.
1602- BAT 51 (Unid, several poss, sounds like KC-135 type)-w/Griffin CP (378.1) w/departure msg.
1608- PAT 2402 (C-12, Davison AAF)-w/PTC (119.85) land at Davison.
1615- ???? (call missed)-w/BW (270.8) reporting completion of speed run at Mach 1.06.
1616- PAT 267-Depart ADW or Davison AAF (118.95)
1621- Raven Ops (165.2375)-w/unid acft (call missed) who reports ETA at MTN of 20 mins. Raven Ops advises they are having trouble w/another acft so there might have to be an another trip to Philly when they get back to MTN..
1623- Ethyl 1 (McGuire tanker)-w/unid acft (prob tanker) on interplane freq (139.875)
1630- Reach 0415 Id as heavy)-depart ADW (125.65) then w/PTC (124.55) & ZDC (134.5).
1631- Navy 648-w/PTC (119.85 land at ADW (118.4)
1637- JOSA 116 (id as C-21)-w/Griffin CP (141.55) w/inbound msg & DV drop off.
1656- DeeCee 96 & DeeCee 52 (KC-135Rs, 756th ARS ADW)-w/Liberator CP (35.2) w/inbound msg.
1702- Navy 276-w/PTC (119.3) land at ADW (118.4)
1704- JOSA (C-21, 457th AS ADW)-w/Griffin CP (141.55) land at ADW (118.4)
1705- Tanker 03 (KC-135R, 58-0008, 133rd ARS NH-ANG Pease)-w/PTC (126.55) asking for altitude of Skater 07 (KC-135R #62-3508, 108th ARW McGuire AFB NJ). Turns out they are both at FL240.
1710- Navy 376 (C-37B # 166376, VR-1 ADW)-w/PTC (128.35) lkand at ADW (118.4)
1732- Army 1944 (C-37A # 97-1944, OSACOM ADW)-depart ADW (118.95)
1740- JOSA ???? (number missed-C-21 # 84-0129, 457th AS ADW)-w/Griffin CP (378.1) reporting mission complete & land ADW (1184.)
1741- JOSA 019- w/Griffin CP (378.1) w/departure msg.


2. HF: ((Times UTC, Freqs KHz))

09025.0 571487 (KC-135R # 57-1487,756 ARS, Andrews AFB, Md): 1557 USB/ALE sounding.
09025.0 290168 (C-17 # 99-0168 517AS,Elmendorf AFB AK): 1616 USB/ALE sounding.
09025.0 DL0001 (E-3B # 79-0001, 964th AACS Tinker AFB OK): 1740 USB/ALE sounding.
09025.0 160025 (C-5M # 86-0025,9th AS/436th AMW Dover AFB DE): 1809 USB/ALE sounding.
09025.0 510315 (KC-135R #61-0315, 319 ARW,Grand Forks AFB, ND): 2019 USB/ALE sounding.
09025.0 220101 (C-17 # 02-1101, 436th AMW Charleston AFB SC): 2155 USB/ALE calling ICZ (Sigonella IT)

Ron (mdmonitor1@verizon.net)
Baltimore MD (390747N 763711W)
VHF/UHF: BC-895XLT/RS Pro-2045
Diamond D-130J discone
HF: Icom R75 & Sangean ATS 909
45-ft EF-SWL & 70-ft random wire

 

[JackTV]

I just saw and heard a flight of 5 helicopters heading east.
They were flying over Lutherville. Just heard H-60 helo's heading to Weide. They were on 126.2
Jack

 

[freqhopping]

He was up on 119.850 w/PT DEP asking to "check something out" in the 2130Z-2145Z timeframe.

Good old radio...))

The boat that I mentioned in post 368.




Something I've noticed is that 134.35 seems to work better than 120.75. Heard BLACKJACK-2 more clearly than I have been and it was about to RTB.

 

[jetcrafter]

Maine logs - Jan 16

1523z 238.200 MAINE 85 (x2) Air to air comms
1523z 133.450 BLUE 04 Eastbound.
1523z 133.450 NAVY BK-152 check in.
1523z 133.450 NAVY BK-165 check in.
1536z 128.750 MAINE 85 (x2) check in.
1537z 135.225 MAINE 85 wkg Giantkiller request Picture. Looking for block 24-25 in W-105 to refuel KILLER 1 & 2 (F-15s).
1541z 123.900 BLUE 04 check in with Moncton Center.
1602z 135.200 REACH 0803 check in with Moncton Center headed East.
1632z 118.150 LANCER 42 off Navy Brunswick.
1636z 128.750 CONVOY 9190 check in FL390.
1638z 128.750 MAINE 85 (x2) check in.
1648z 134.950 MAINE 85 (x2) check in block 33-34 heading back to Bangor.
1649z 238.200 MAINE 85 flight A-A.
1650z 124.250 REACH 334 climb out of Bangor.
1653z 273.800 TRIDENT 23 wkg Goldenhawk TSCC at Brunswick in the red and green.
1657z 135.200 CONVOY 9190 heading East check in with Moncton Center.
1659z 139.875 TEAM 51 and 54 Random AR A-A comms.
1704z 311.000 MAINE 85 with Maineiac Control, will be in the pattern for an hour.
1719z 134.950 REACH 334 check in.
1732z 133.450 BLUE 94 descending to 16,000ft.
1740z 290.300 MAZDA 41 flight check in.
1743z 128.200 BLUE 94 descending to Pease.
1756z 125.050 BLUE 94 will do two ILS approaches.
1800z 135.700 TEAM 51 flight Check in with ZBW, turning southbound random AR with TEAM 54.
1802z 128.400 BLUE 94 working Pease tower.
1803z 134.700 CAPFLIGHT 3876 check in with ZBW.
1805z 128.325 TEAM 51 flight wkg ZBW towards home. 1817z/135.325 then 1822z/125.575
1834z 321.000 BLUE 04 inbound Pease will do some pattern work.
1838z 128.200 BLUE 04 check in with ZBW.
1839z 269.300 MAZDA 51 flight Check in, direct EMJAY-J174-SNOW HILL-Destination.
1840z 133.450 BLUE 01 wkg ZBW.
1843z 133.450 BLUE 01 with ZBW, direct MANTA-COYLE-McGUIRE.
1929z 132.000 REACH 806 off Bangor at 1920z, ETA Leipzig (EDDP) 0159z. 131 pax.
2009z 238.100 BUZZARD 08 wkg Buzzard OPs.
2010z 118.150 BUZZARD 08 inbound Brunswick runway 1R.
2027z 135.800 TURKISH 1 check in. (Mil or civil?)
2028z 125.050 ROD 04 wkg Pease A/D.
2032z 128.400 ROD 04 wkg Pease tower.
2039z 125.050 CAPFLIGHT 2821 wkg Pease A/D, couple landings at Sanford then back to Pease.
2040z 257.500 CONVOY 4410 with Brunswick OPs, 20 minutes out.
2048z 125.050 TANKER 03 just off Pease to Guard Dog CAP.
2049z 118.150 CONVOY 4410 inbound Brunswick runway 1R.
2054z 128.200 TANKER 03 with ZBW direct Marconi.
2055z 134.950 REACH 5103 Check in ZBW FL340, direct TOPPS-EMJAY-J174-ORF-Charleston AFB.
2056z 118.425 TANKER 03 With ZBW, need to expedite for mission, can we get direct DCA if able? (Yes!)
2102z 128.200 ROD 04 climb out of Pease to FL130.
2107z 364.200 TANKER 03 calling Huntress a few times.
2111z 124.525 TANKER 03 check in with ZBW, FL300.
2112z 124.250 ROD 04 check in ZBW, FL130.
2116z 128.200 NAVY BK-165 wkg ZBW inbound Brunswick NAS.
2130z 118.150 NAVY BK-165 with Brunswick approach.
2135z 128.200 ROD 04 check in with ZBW.
2141z 128.200 LANCER 28 climb out of Brunswick to FL140.
2141z 128.200 TURF 31 check in with ZBW.
2146z 135.700 LANCER 28 with ZBW going to Burlington, VT.
2148z 133.450 TURF 31 check in with ZBW.
2202z 128.750 REACH 415 check in.
2203z 118.150 NAVY LK-05 inbound Brunswick 1R.
2206z 123.900 TURF 31 check in with Moncton Center FL230.
2207z 135.700 REACH 796 with ZBW.
2225z 135.325 REACH 796 check in FL350.
2229z 135.200 REACH 415 check in FL350.
2243z 125.575 REACH 796 with ZBW heading to McGuire.
2343z 118.150 LANCER 42 declare emergency with Brunswick approach. #1 engine out, 13 souls on board, 4 hrs. fuel left.
2347z 385.250 LANCER 42 base, 414 here. We're coming back #1 engine out. Same problem as past two nights.
2347z 119.600 LANCER 42 6 miles out, runway 1R.