Sticky Thread For MilAir IV

[TinEar]

AE1190 is seen sometimes too. One DB has it with the flight ID VVSD534

Yes, AE1190 has been confirmed as SALTY DOG 534 - an EA-6B from VX-23 at Pax. BuNo is 156481. I have a long record for that one.
And for those not familiar with Mode-S callsign designators...
VV=Navy (VM=Marines) (R=Army) (S=SAM) (E=Air Evac)
SD=SALTY DOG

 

[mdmonitor]

Hi Ron,

Good to see you back on the "regular freqs" again...)

Felker AAF is Ft. Eustis.

Tony

Tony,

thanks for the correction. Will put it in my notes. Sparky had a very distinctive xmitter---hard to describe--clear but "scratchy" at the same time.

Went back to using my trusty old RS Pro-2045--- my first scanner. Has only 200 chnls but has ability to changes modes (AM/FM) on all freqs.

Did a "study" on what I've been hearing from my QTH and found that there really only about 150-200 freqs that I was hearing most of the " good stuff" on with any regularity. So decided to move back to the Pro-2045 which has always been a very sensitive receiver with extremely fast scanning capability. It's an old warhorse, without all the " bells and whistles" of the newer scanners but it is easy to use, covers the freqs, does a very good job on Milair.

 

[Mark]

2253 KC-10 #79-1948 Travis thru area at 39k callsign showing XTNDR 15.
comes up on McGuire metro as BLUE 91 req wx at Lajes for 0900z.
2305 RCH 877 KC-10 McGuire 84-0188 Eastbound on ZNY North Mtn 128.575
req Oceanic clearence freq.No readback.
2314 REACH 877 on ZNY Matawan 125.325 again req Oceanic clc freq, didn't read back..
2324 REACH 877 checks in on Boston Ctr 135.800 direct Dovey.
Again he asks for Oceanic clc freq,again no read back.He is triple checking!
2328 RCH 877 trying BLUE 91 on 138.875,no joy and their gone.

Mark

 

[JohnFB]

1313: DARKSTAR to DEVIL Ops (NJ-ANG)...understand you don't need us for control of your fighters from 1950-2030Z but would like to get information (blocked)...261.0

FWIW ... a few other points:

SENTRY 50 was in Boston airspace before switching to ZNY Broadway sector on 133.500

1315L : SENTRY 50 wkg ZNY on 133.500 - [x] heading for Alpha Whiskey 710 orbit [never heard that before] @ FL260. Orbiting btwn N4015 W7200 & N3958 W7128

1318L : DARKSTAR wkg GK on 255.000 - understand that 119FS [NJ] not launching due to ??sea state?? (or maybe c-state or see state). Waiting on 121FS ... can you contact DSN 857-4190 [DC ANG 113WG]

1320L : DARKSTAR wkg GK on 338.100 - 119FS is a no-go, please call 121FS 857-4190 [He did sound a tad agitated, now that I've seem Tin's comment RE: rookie GK]

1323L : SENTRY 50 wkg ZNY on 133.500 - rqst 15nm circle around that point.

1338L : DARKSTAR wkg ?WILD 1? on 320.600 - rgr, radar cntc WILD 1 (range & alt)

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1436L : DARKSTAR wkg GK on 338.100 - [x] Sea Isle 090/77 FL260 SCAREY 1 & 2, switching to 255.000

1445L : DARKSTAR wkg GK on 338.100 - all aircraft exited from W107, DARKSTAR RTB


^^^^^^^^^^^^

Nice to hear the AWACS even if I couldn't hear the fighters except for one brief xmsn on 143.600

 

[TinEar]

SENTRY 50 was in Boston airspace before switching to ZNY Broadway sector on 133.500

Nice to hear the AWACS even if I couldn't hear the fighters except for one brief xmsn on 143.600

Thanks for the additional info John. Much appreciated. I figured the E-3 would be in a standoff area where he could also troll for possible New England activity and your info proved it.

As soon as I get my 500 foot antenna tower built....
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Ref below: You've got it right for ADFE32 Mark.

 

[Mark]

1100 Had a ADFE32 thru the area.Only thing I can find is.
Coast Guard HU-25A 2120 ATC Mobile Alabama.

Not exactly Mil related but next Saturday should be a hoot in this area.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090108/ap_on_go_pr_wh/inauguration_obama_by_train_3

Mark

 

[TinEar]

I don't remember if I ever posted this information. If so, I can't find it so here goes...

There have been changes in the ZNY Low Sectors between this area and Bollen Range and places north of here. The old ZNY Sector 11 (Hyper 132.5/322.5) no longer exists. It was mostly absorbed into Sector 26 (Lancaster 133.675/239.05) and a piece of it into Sector 25 (Modena 135.45/335.6). A lot of numbers there but the end result is that you can remove the 132.5/322.5 freqs from taking up valuable space in the scanner. The area I'm talking about juts well down into Maryland - almost to the Baltimore area.

In addition to 239.05, there is also a Secondary UHF freq 285.65 for the Lancaster Sector. That one doesn't seem to be published anywhere but it was confirmed for me quite awhile ago by an ARTCC employee. I hear activity on it occasionally by the MD-ANG A-10s.

 

[TinEar]

1353: HURON 71 flight (F-16s to Shaw from 52nd FW Spangdahlen) w/ZDC-Sea Isle...281.45 (Coronet flight returning to the U.S.) (1353 local = 1853Z for those on the other side of the pond reading this)
1354: HURON 71 trying to contact ZDC-Salisbury...257.7
1355: HURON 71 reports in the block 260-280...257.7
HURON flight working interflight freq...138.025
They sure aren't doing much talking with ZDC or on interflight. Probably not much left to say after flying with each other half way around the world. The little chat heard on interflight was just about their location.)
1407: HURON 71 flight handed off to ZDC-Norfolk and report checking in in the block 260.280...327.8 (And that's all he had to say - same as last freq)
1409: HURON 71 apparently not heard so calls twice more and repeats above info but adds - flight of three...327.8 (Started as a flight of six in the UK but heard some returned to RAF Leuchars due to mechanical problems)
1414: HURON 71 chat on interflight indicates they're around the Norfolk area...138.025
Guess that's all I'm going to hear from them. They should be out of range by now (1423).

 

[mdmonitor]

T-6s

Mark,
Alan,
Travis

The other day you guys were trying to figure out some strange Mode-S stuff---had Tester 961 up this afternoon at 1616 EST doing vertical maneuvering over the Potomac River working w/Bay Watch (280.0)

Any of your weird hex codes up at that time?

 

[freqhopping]

Mark,
Alan,
Travis

The other day you guys were trying to figure out some strange Mode-S stuff---had Tester 961 up this afternoon at 1616 EST doing vertical maneuvering over the Potomac River working w/Bay Watch (280.0)

Any of your weird hex codes up at that time?

That's when I had them.
TROUT-98 appears to be inbound to ADW now.
1638- With ADW tower for 1R.

1645- SAM-4096 displaying SAM-3663 inbound ADW for 1L. 119.85>124.7
1656- REACH-43 C-130 91-9143 passing south of Leesburg at 7k, leaving behind a dirty trail.


Could this http://www.militaryindustrialcomplex.com/contract_detail.asp?contract_id=1534 be TROUT-98?

1751- VADER-41 inbound to ADW. 335.5

 

[CitationJet]

Re: TROUT 98

Hi guys,

Heard this one as well inbound 118.675 and 119.850 and nearly got home in time to run up and get my scope. However, I was a bit too late as I pulled into the driveway, but eyeballed it as it passed over the house: C-20.

Tony

That's when I had them.
TROUT-98 appears to be inbound to ADW now.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: TROUT 98

Travis, forget the USMC C-20G then, it's sounds like it's a C-20E so maybe 87-0139/-0140 in a new low-vis color scheme. I have someone who I can ask about this, I'll see what I can find out.

 

[mdmonitor]

Logs, 9 Jan

ACY-Atlantic City NJ
ADW- Andrews AFB MD
BW- Bay Watch-NAS PAX Area Advisory Control
DOV- Dover AFB DE
GK- Giantkiller (FACSFAC, Virginia Capes)
MTN-Martin State Airport, Baltimore
NGTF-Northrop-Grumman Test Facility, Baltimore
NXX- Willow Grove JRB PA
PAX-NAS Patuxent River MD
PTC- Potomac Area TRACON
WRI-McGuire AFB NJ
ZBW-Boston ARTCC
ZDC- Washington ARTCC
ZNY- New York ARTCC

1. VHF/UHF: ((Times are EST))

0758- PAT 1203 (C-12, Davison AAF VA)-depart Davison (118.95)
0759- Reach 542T (id as heavy)-w/PTC (124.55 & 119.85). Land at ADW (118.4)
0800- Crab 58 (C-130J # 98-1358, 135th AS MD ANG MTN)-w/Crab Ops (384.1)
0804- Venus 40 (VC-37 # 97-0400, 99th AS ADW)-patterns at ADW (119.3 & 118.4)
0819- Reach 18 (tail # 4-0065)-w/DOV CP (349.4) w/inbound msg. Also w/PTC (128.35 & 124.55)
0832- JOSA 654 (C-21A # 84-0127)-w/PTC (119.85) land at ADW (118.4). Also w/Griffin CP (141.55)
0900- CAP Flight ???? (number missed, prob Cessna 182)-w/BW (119.275) advising they are part of the " airport exercise" this morning and that they'll have a couple of F-16s working with them.
0902- Scary 1 flt (2 x F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG ADW)-on sqdn freq (143.6). Also w/ZDC (254.3)
0909- N360TL (Britten-Islander, NGTF)-depart BWI (124.55)
0911- Brave 1 Flt (2 x F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG ADW)-depart ADW (348.725) requesting clearance direct to PAX area. Working w/Huntress (260.9). Also w/BW (119.275 & 270.8)--working the exercise w/CAP
Flight.
0918- Wild flt (4 X F-167s, 121st FS DC ANG ADW)-check in on sqdn freq (139.15). One of the Wilds having difficulty with his SADL unit.
1213- Coast Guard 102 9C-143, CGAS Washington)-w/PTC (119.85) land at Reagan Nat'l.
1304- Jena 33 (FBI acft N933PB,CESSNA 560, Manassas, VA)-w/PTC (119.85)
1309- SAM 4096 (99th AS ADW)-depart ADW (118.95)
1311- Belgian Air Force 613 (C-130/A-310)-w/PTC (128.35) land at ADW (118.4).
1322- Crab 57 (C-130J # 98-1357, 135th AS MD ANG MTN)-w/PTC (124.55)
1616- Tester 916 (T-6 Texan II # 165961, NTPS PAX)-w/BW (270.8)
1619- Salty Dog 326 (F-18B # 162857, VX-23 PAX)-depart BW areas (270.8) RTB PAX " according to course rules."
1621- PAT 451-depart ADW (125.65).
1627- PAT 442-w/PTC (119.85)
1629- Wardog 1 flt (A-10Cs, 104th FS MD ANG MTN)-w/PTC (124.55) for landing at MTN (297.2)
1633- PAT 559-land at Phillips AAF (126.15)
1640- Trout 98 (C-20,ADW)-land at ADW (1184.). Will park on the Navy side.
1641- Evac 21112-w/PTC (128.35, 119.85 & 119.3). Also w/Griffin CP (378.1/141.55) w/inbound msg. Land at ADW (118.4)
1657- Navy 751 (poss C-20G # 165151, VR-48 ADW)- w/Griffin CP (141.55) w/inbound msg.

2. HF: ((Times UTC, Freqs KHz))

09025.0 160022 (C-5B # 86-0022, 22nd AS Travis AFB CA): 191 USB/ALE sounding.

09025.0 430080 (KC-10 # 83-0080, 60th AMW Travis AFB CA): 2001 USB/ALE sounding.

09025.0 240067 (C-17 # 94-0067, 437th AMW Charleston AFB SC): 2317 USB/ALE sounding.

Ron (mdmonitor1@verizon.net)
Baltimore MD (390747N 763711W)
VHF/UHF: BC-895XLT/RS Pro-2045
Diamond D-130J discone
HF: Icom R75 & Sangean ATS 909
45-ft EF-SWL & 70-ft random wire

 

[JackTV]

I don't remember if I ever posted this information. If so, I can't find it so here goes...

There have been changes in the ZNY Low Sectors between this area and Bollen Range and places north of here. The old ZNY Sector 11 (Hyper 132.5/322.5) no longer exists. It was mostly absorbed into Sector 26 (Lancaster 133.675/239.05) and a piece of it into Sector 25 (Modena 135.45/335.6). A lot of numbers there but the end result is that you can remove the 132.5/322.5 freqs from taking up valuable space in the scanner. The area I'm talking about juts well down into Maryland - almost to the Baltimore area.

In addition to 239.05, there is also a Secondary UHF freq 285.65 for the Lancaster Sector. That one doesn't seem to be published anywhere but it was confirmed for me quite awhile ago by an ARTCC employee. I hear activity on it occasionally by the MD-ANG A-10s.

Tin,
I am up here in Timonium. So when I look up during the day or night and I see aircraft usually heading in all directions leaving con trails (usually heading west or south west) can you tell me what VHF and UHF freqs to put in? According to different sector maps I should be under New York Center air space.

Thanx,
Jack

 

[coronet]

Coronet deployments

Hi, good evening everyone,

Due to some family emergencies, I wasn't able to post any updates here lately, sorry ....

The final 52nd FW F-16s should be arriving at Shaw AFB tomorrow as HURON 91-96.
Supporting tankers are CAFE 41-43.

The 391st FS F-15s are returning to CONUS from Afghanistan next week as MAZDA 41,
MAZDA 51 and MAZDA 61 flight. Supporting tankers are BLUE 91, 01 and 11 flight.

The AFRC F-16s are deploying to Balad this weekend, but their flightplan is protected.

Happy listening !!


René.

 

[TinEar]

Mark,
Alan,
Travis

The other day you guys were trying to figure out some strange Mode-S stuff---had Tester 961 up this afternoon at 1616 EST doing vertical maneuvering over the Potomac River working w/Bay Watch (280.0)

Any of your weird hex codes up at that time?

Not here Ron. I had nothing anywhere near that time that was unidentified that would match up with that TESTER doing that type maneuvering. I've never been able to cross reference any of those NTPS T-6s with that gaggle of unidentified hex codes that don't seem to talk - at least not yet. Back when someone decided those AE13xx hexes might be T-6s instead of C-130s, I immediately thought of those TESTER 959-967 birds but checking them over a course of flights they just didn't seem to match up. I can't say with 100% accuracy it isn't them but I don't think so at this point. I'd love to be proven wrong just so we can finally ID them. I do appreciate your help though.

 

[TinEar]

Tin,
I am up here in Timonium. So when I look up during the day or night and I see aircraft usually heading in all directions leaving con trails (usually heading west or south west) can you tell me what VHF and UHF freqs to put in? According to different sector maps I should be under New York Center air space.

Thanx,
Jack

Jack, I can do you one better. If you'll send me your email address, I'll send you a PDF document with a map of ZNY sectors with the freqs posted on each sector. It's the updated 2008 map put out by New York Center itself. I don't have a similar map for ZDC (Washington Center) but all the freqs in the database here are correct. The database also will show you the map depicting the dividing lines between the various Centers. I don't think I can post the PDF map here on the thread in a size that could be read or would do it the easy way.

Add: For the couple of quick emails I got asking why I don't just post the link to the PDF files, it's because I can't. They are no longer available to the public.

Alan

 

[JackTV]

Jack, I can do you one better. If you'll send me your email address, I'll send you a PDF document with a map of ZNY sectors with the freqs posted on each sector. It's the updated 2008 map put out by New York Center itself. I don't have a similar map for ZDC (Washington Center) but all the freqs in the database here are correct. The database also will show you the map depicting the dividing lines between the various Centers. I don't think I can post the PDF map here on the thread in a size that could be read or would do it the easy way.

Alan

Tin,
PM sent

 

[TinEar]

Tin,
PM sent

And the email sent.
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A couple of KC-135R tankers from the 22nd ARW at McConnell AFB on the way through the area heading east/northeast for a Coronet mission. They are:
BLUE 12 = 63-8000 at 2157
BLUE 92 = 58-0042 at 2228
Wonder if they're heading across the pond to pick up the MAZDA flight mentioned by René above?
The 63-8000 BLUE 12 has been logged now in the Nantucket (ACK) area about 2230 so it looks like they will cross the Atlantic.

Ref below: Good catch Mark. Guess I left just a few minutes too early. Call me impatient. When the HURON 71 flight got out of range, I scooted out the door around 1425-1430. You got them just a couple of minutes after that.
I don't see that 197th ARS tanker on my log. He must have been too far north for me to get a hit. I'm about 40-50 miles too far south to catch that west-east route leading out to ACK unless they come from the south.

 

[Mark]

1353: HURON 71 flight (F-16s to Shaw from 52nd FW Spangdahlen) w/ZDC-Sea Isle...281.45 (Coronet flight returning to the U.S.) (1353 local = 1853Z for those on the other side of the pond reading this)
(1423).

Checking my tape tonite Alan also had second group
HURON 81 with ZDC 281.450 check in as flight of 6 at 1431 local/1931z
Thought they lost a couple as well.
I think those GUNMAN 1 and 2 flights that did rtb over there were not part of the HURON 81 group.

Also rare Tanker logged tonight in this area.
AE049C KC-135T #59-1517 197 ARS Arizona ANG at 1434 local.

Mark