Sticky Thread For MilAir IV

[Mark]

The number of aircraft using ADS/B in the airline industry sure has increased since I got my unit a couple of years ago. I've had to make all the info blocks just one line on the radar screen so they all fit.

Yes I have noticed increase myself in last few months I've had mine but a long way to go.
Especially older smaller aircraft.
Sunday the Cecil Airport flying club took off near me and only one in five of the small personal planes had mode S.
Course if all those light aircraft get full ABS our screens may be a real mess. LOL

Had a couple unknowns today
ADFF00 and ADF7C7. Airframes says miscoded.

Mark

 

[JohnFB]

Tin, Ron et al

07-7173 RCH598 16:23:31.521 C-17A 3rdAS/436thAW (Dep DOV)
62-3556 DECEE21 12:42:51.365 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
58-0107 MAINE91 11:45:48.240 KC-135R ANG/ME/132ARS

I had:

1659L : RCH 598 wkg HUNTRESS on 364.200 - sweet & sour chk on 3643 .... copy, we're sweet

1044L : OPEC 23 [poss KC-10 NJ] wkg DC 21 on 228.000 AR777 - call for set-up and timing, later rqst switch to 2ndry 315.900

1057L : MAINE 91 wkg ZBW ATC on 123.875 - hold @ SYR 08/75 radial and wait for fighters [who turned out to be COBRAs & PYTHONs from 174FW NY]

I'm impressed that you could pick up MAINE 91 mode. They finished with the fighters [prob in AR609] and reported to HUNTRESS that they were direct ACOVE and RTB flight plan route to Bangor around 1119L, so they were northwest of my location.

 

[BM82557]

Course if all those light aircraft get full ABS our screens may be a real mess. LOL

Mark

Question for you guys that have boxes:

Is it possible to filter out ones you don't want to see? LIke the small civilian planes Mark noted above or specific ac types/tail numbers.

Brian


Ref below: Thanks for the responses Alan and Mark. Maybe one of these days I'll have a new piece of hardware.

 

[TinEar]

1057L : MAINE 91 wkg ZBW ATC on 123.875 - hold @ SYR 08/75 radial and wait for fighters [who turned out to be COBRAs & PYTHONs from 174FW NY]

I'm impressed that you could pick up MAINE 91 mode. They finished with the fighters [prob in AR609] and reported to HUNTRESS that they were direct ACOVE and RTB flight plan route to Bangor around 1119L, so they were northwest of my location.

Sometimes you get a hit on these things that defies logic - from well beyond what you'd expect even on voice. I guess there's something that affects signals at 1090 mHz that causes it. There are programs that plot the various hits and I keep seeing guys show plots out at several hundred miles. Of course it isn't a constant thing - just something that occasionally happens.

Question for you guys that have boxes:

Is it possible to filter out ones you don't want to see? LIke the small civilian planes Mark noted above or specific ac types/tail numbers.

Brian

No, there really isn't Brian. Personally, I can't think of a reason why I'd want to do that. I want to be aware of everything that's flying and want a log of that activity. Mind you, there are two parts to the system. One is just a running log of every aircraft detected that's flying within range of your antenna. It gives you the ID and all the basic info about that plane such as make/model, altitude, Mode 3 squawk and callsign if he's programmed it into the system. The second part is a radar screen that plots the flight of any aircraft that turns on another part of the Mode-S system called ADS/B. That provides coordinates of the aircraft's flight sent once a second so you follow the flight track just as they would in the ATC system. It also gives you speed, course, rate of climb/descent, etc. That's the part we're all waiting to become mandatory in this country as it is in other parts of the world. I'm not sure how everyone else sets up their radar screen but I keep a 150 mile radius so I'm looking at a rather large area which makes the screen cluttered if you're tracking a great number of aircraft. However, it's easy enough to separate them by cutting down the radius. For instance, when I wanted to follow that REACH aircraft into BWI this evening, I cut the radius to 100 miles, then 50, 25, 10 and finally on just one mile until he was the only aircraft on the screen and I could watch it right down to the runway. Oh, and I don't have to center the screen on my home. I have the ability to center it on just about anywhere I want - such as on Andrews or even Martinsburg.

Addendum: We've got six people now that contribute to this thread that run a Mode-S receiver (that I know about).

 

[Mark]

Question for you guys that have boxes:

Is it possible to filter out ones you don't want to see? LIke the small civilian planes Mark noted above or specific ac types/tail numbers.

Brian

On the screen shot you can't filter traffic but on RadarBox in the running log which has
most of your info anyway you can filter by alltitude,types,airlines and even particular airport activity for aircraft with full mode signals.
For example, Say I just want to see 747's in the area on my log,you can easily filter running log for that type only and thats what will show up in log.
Or I only want to see aircraft below 5000 feet like helicopters,small planes and you can easily filter for that as well.

0900 REACH 2206 climbing up NWbound prob going to Scott AFB next showing as (AE1CB9) BULL 95 on box. C-130E?

Mark

 

[TinEar]

Virginia Pilot story on the F-22A deployment:

"...pilots are scheduled to fly out with 12 F-22s on Wednesday."
http://hamptonroads.com/2009/01/raptor-squadron-langley-deploying-japan
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Today's log moved to new post below.
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CANNON AIR FORCE BASE, N.M. — AC-130H gunships will begin moving to eastern
New Mexico’s Cannon Air Force Base in June.
...the Air Force has eight active AC-130H aircraft...

 

[Mark]

"...pilots are scheduled to fly out with 12 F-22s on Wednesday."

Maybe postponed due to wx?
Just had a TEAM 05 KC-10 #84-0192 climbing up westbound but he is headed to FL 360
direct HVQ Charleston WV vortac on ZNY Harrisburg 133.475.
I see on other board a CABAL 61 headed West towards Nellis but no report of chicks.

Mark

 

[mdmonitor]

F-22s

Posted on another list:

Monitored @ 1645z

On 227.8 (442nd FW CP "Groundhog) Cabul -61 (KC -10 tanker) to "goundhog CP" requesting if they had pp capability. "in flight with (6) f-22's". Need to contact home CP to
coordinate ops. with "cabul 62". Dont know if west or east bound.

Monitored from St. Louis

 

[mdmonitor]

F-22 Saga

Guys,

Another installment:

Posted on another list:

1932Z CABAL 63 KC-10A 87-0118 "XTNDR21" launched from Travis, asking ZOA
controller about airspace over BEBOP, wants to delay ... possible
rendezvous for 2nd leg. Requesting FL250 "for rejoin with formation"
... 83-0076 also part of the group ("62 FLIGHT").

San Francisco

Another bit of info:

1956Z CABAL 62 [KC-10A 86-0036] joining up with CABAL 63 over BEBOP;
KC-135R 57-1512 as CABAL 64 at FL400, not participating in the flight at
this time. CABAL 61 [KC-10A 79-0434] checking in at FL380.

San Francisco

 

[TinEar]

By the way, that CABAL 64 (57-1512) is the guy that departed Andrews yesteray as DECEE 95. He's been logged a few places on the west coast today.

The 83-0076 KC-10 is part of it but he's displaying CLEAN 21 in his transponder. It's leftover from his last mission.

1542: I'm hearing RAVEN Ops talking with an aircraft. Didn't hear a flight take off though from MTN...aircraft is weak and might still be on the ground...347.2

 

[mdmonitor]

F-22s

For those of you following these guys, here's a summary of the tankers from Jordan out in Calif:

Summary:

CABAL 61 KC-10A 79-0434 [FL380]
CABAL 62 KC-10A 86-0036 [lead until BEBOP, then 63 takes over lead]
CABAL 63 KC-10A 87-0118 [from Travis]
CABAL 64 KC-135R 57-1512 [FL400]

San Francisco

 

[mdmonitor]

Spar 30

1500- SPAR 30 (C-37A # 01-0030, 310thAS MacDill AFB FL)- w/PTC (128.35) for landing at ADW (118.4)

I think most of these SPAR flts from MacDill are carrying CENTCOM biggies up to Wash to keep the Aministration up to speed on the Middle East. In the current situation we should see quite a few of these

 

[mdmonitor]

Tin,

Your log:

78-23132 ------- 15:54:51.525 C-12C NTPS

The tail nr is actually 82-3132 should be Tester 39 or Navy TP 38.

 

[TinEar]

Tin,

Your log:

78-23132 ------- 15:54:51.525 C-12C NTPS

The tail nr is actually 82-3132 should be Tester 39 or Navy TP 38.

Correction made. Well, wait a minute....82-3132 is Navy? Plus, it doesn't compute in Scramble. Shouldn't it have a BuNo if it's Navy?

Okay...I think the number I had was correct. The Pax tail list I had showed TESTER 38 as 76-23132 but it should be year 78 instead of 76. So...I wound up making the correction on the Pax tail list and left my Mode-S tail/buno as it was. And now Scramble agrees with me that 78-23132 is a Navy C-12C.

Who is NELLIE 104?

 

[mdmonitor]

Correction made. Well, wait a minute....82-3132 is Navy? Plus, it doesn't compute in Scramble. Shouldn't it have a BuNo if it's Navy?

Okay...I think the number I had was correct. The Pax tail list I had showed TESTER 38 as 76-23132 but it should be year 78 instead of 76. So...I wound up making the correction on the Pax tail list and left my Mode-S tail/buno as it was. And now Scramble agrees with me that 78-23132 is a Navy C-12C.

Who is NELLIE 104?

Tin,

Quite a few of the NTPS acft have strange numbers---especially the T-38Cs which were all ex-USAF in a previous life. Same goes with the C-12s which may have been ex-Army. Noit sure about that.

here's what I have for those "un-Navy" tail numbers:

TESTER 09 T-38C 61-0825
TESTER 10 T-38C 158198
TESTER 11 T-38C 68-8158
TESTER 12 T-38C 15-8200
TESTER 13 T-38C 15-8201
TESTER 14 T-38C 67-4943
TESTER 15 T-38C 59-1604
TESTER 16 T-38C 70-1575
TESTER 17 T-38C 70-1579
TESTER 18 T-38C
TESTER 36 C-12C 76-0172
TESTER 37 C-12C 62-2563
TESTER 38 C-12C 82-3132

 

[TinEar]

Tin,

Quite a few of the NTPS acft have strange numbers---especially the T-38Cs which were all ex-USAF in a previous life. Same goes with the C-12s which may have been ex-Army. Noit sure about that.

here's what I have for those "un-Navy" tail numbers:

TESTER 09 T-38C 61-0825
TESTER 10 T-38C 158198
TESTER 11 T-38C 68-8158
TESTER 12 T-38C 15-8200
TESTER 13 T-38C 15-8201
TESTER 14 T-38C 67-4943
TESTER 15 T-38C 59-1604
TESTER 16 T-38C 70-1575
TESTER 17 T-38C 70-1579
TESTER 18 T-38C
TESTER 36 C-12C 76-0172
TESTER 37 C-12C 62-2563
TESTER 38 C-12C 82-3132

Ron, we agree down the line until you get to TESTER 37 and 38. Neither of those tails computes in Scramble but the 78-23132 does. I can't get any combination to make 62-2563 work. Oops...yes I can. 76-22563 shows as a C-12C at USNTPS. So, my analysis is that both TESTER 37 and 38 have had the first number left off on your list. For what it's worth.
TESTER 37 = 76-22563, C-12C, USNTPS
TESTER 38 = 78-23132, C-12C, USNTPS

 

[freqhopping]

B-1B 86-0112 has been showing up occasionally, seems to be descending slowly.
1742- Down to 9800. Originally it was at 20k.

E-6B 164388 is heading west.
GAF462 was transmitting mode-s briefly, showed 285ft. Must be sitting at Dulles.

 

[mdmonitor]

Ron, we agree down the line until you get to TESTER 37 and 38. Neither of those tails computes in Scramble but the 78-23132 does. I can't get any combination to make 62-2563 work. Oops...yes I can. 76-25563 shows as a C-12C at USNTPS. So, my analysis is that both TESTER 37 and 38 have had the first number left off on your list. For what it's worth.
TESTER 37 = 76-22563, C-12C, USNTPS
TESTER 38 = 78-23132, C-12C, USNTPS

Tin,

Thanks---I've changed my listing.

 

[TinEar]

Moving today's log down from above. Got too tedious scrolling back to find it for each edit.

Activity for 07 January: (edits throughout the day)

79-1713 FORCE37 22:09:14.942 KC-10A 305th AMW (Rtrn KWRI)
N138WA WOA8010 21:56:14.208 DC-10 World Airways (KBWI to ETAR)
N404LC LYC201 21:54:29.208 C-130 Lynden Air Cargo (KCHS to KWRI)
94-0070 RCH4070 21:29:59.333 C-17A 437th AW (Departing, arrived as RCH240)
166378 NAVY700 20:54:13.942 C-37B VR-1 (Arr ADW 128.35)
83-0081 TEAM 35 20:53:24.254 KC-10A 305thAMW (All 3 out of WRI...Comm1-139.875) (Up to FL225, Mode3-4000)
79-1713 FORCE37 20:53:15.301 KC-10A 305thAMW (With above) (Up to FL220) (Mode3-4000)
83-0082 TEAM36 20:52:45.239 KC-10A 305thAMW (With 2 above) (Up to FL230) (Mode3-1540) (121.675 @2114 wants block 220-240 for AR, currently 220-230, cleared for random AR ops-TEAM36 to FL230, 35 to FL235, FORCE37 to FL225...TEAM36 will be tanker, other 2 receivers...dropped off Mode-S by altitude at 2120/2121/2122-each 500 feet worth an extra minute...ops still on 139.875...@2127 TEAM36 reports dropping 1000 feet at 500 ft/minute, lvls at 220)
59-1469 DECEE32 20:31:40.395 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
03-3113 RCH3113 20:23:07.973 C-17A 172AW/183AS MS-ANG (Arr ADW-378.1/128.35)
96-0006 RCH1821 19:46:37.239 C-17A 437th AW (Arr ADW 378.1/128.35)
02-0202 BOXER44 19:31:36.958 C-40C 201AS/DC-ANG
84-0107 JOSA829 19:19:12.989 C-21A 311thAS
165159 ------- 19:17:08.942 C-130T VR-53
166767 VM-161 19:16:35.223 UC-35D VMR-2
161319 7W-932 19:16:01.504 UC-12B WillowGrove
59-1469 DECEE32 18:58:55.942 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS
68-0222 RCH8222 18:57:46.989 C-5A 167thAS/WVANG
01-0028 SPAR28 18:33:52.176 C-37A 310th AS (Dep ADW 118.95 -Display SPAR35 at takeoff, then SPAR28 couple of minutes later/ADS-B)
97-0400 S4037 18:28:17.223 C-37A 89AW/99AS (Dep ADW 118.95 w/ADS-B) (S=SAM)
99-0004 S4022 18:22:30.489 C-32A 1st AS (Dep ADW 125.65)
164407 JASPER37 18:20:14.176 E-6B VQ-4 (Arr Pax..called LABOR DAY but missed backend call on 311.0...front callsign fm 133.9)
166378 NAVY700 18:15:22.489 C-37B VR-1 (Dep ADW 125.65)
01-0187 RCH1187 18:03:18.973 C-17A 62nd AW (Fm Europe)
84-0140 JOSA073 18:01:59.301 C-21A 458th AS (Dep ADW)
00-0175 RCH023 17:56:54.973 C-17A 62nd AW (From Europe..80 lines on the log of monitors-starting in Budapest-getting him today)
10+22 GAF 462 17:51:17.973 A-310 FBSBMVg (German AF) (Dep KIAD w/ADS-B)
165835 CNV4670 17:37:23.504 C-40A VR-59 (Arr ADW-Need Customs)
96-0112 R60112 17:37:13.551 C-12 Army (133.9)
05-0932 SPAR 20 17:26:55.942 C-40C 73rd AS (Dep ADW)
84-0077 PACER50 17:23:26.004 C-21A 457th AS (Rtn ADW)
164388 ------- 17:21:23.926 E-6B VQ-4 (Dep Pax)
94-0070 RCH 240 17:21:15.942 C-17A 437th AW
86-0203 S4054 17:20:18.317 C-20B 89AW/99AS (Dep ADW 125.65/133.9)
N14075 WOA8000 17:10:10.551 DC-10 World Airways
69-0002 RCH9002 17:08:21.926 C-5A 68th AS/AFRC (Arr DOV)
59-1469 DECEE32 17:07:32.317 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS (Dep ADW 125.65/133.9)
01-0030 SPAR30 17:06:21.942 C-37A 310thAS (Dep ADW)
84-0107 JOSA829 17:00:31.942 C-21A 311thAS
06-6164 RCH271 16:34:13.254 C-17A 21AS/60AMW
84-0095 JOSA113 16:24:03.051 C-21 457th AS
70-0465 RCH0465 16:22:56.223 C-5A 155thAS/TNANG
01-0028 SPAR35 16:22:49.520 C-37A 310thAS
84-0140 JOSA073 16:22:29.942 C-21A 458thAS
------ ------- 16:17:52.129 C-130 USAF
74-1674 HAZRD74 16:02:09.944 C-130H 317AG/40AS
N138WA WOA9627 15:58:35.456 DC-10 World Airways (EDDP to KBWI)
78-23132 ------- 15:54:51.525 C-12C NTPS
161319 7W-932 15:53:04.073 UC-12B WillowGrove
91-0505 PAT851 15:41:36.249 C-26B USARMY
05-0932 SPAR20 15:39:43.937 C-40C 932ndAW
166376 NAVY376 15:34:01.955 C-37B VR-1
01..... CG101 15:30:27.972 C-37A CGASWashingtonD.C.
RA82045 VDA4693 15:24:20.452 AN-124 Volga-Dnepr Airlines (UWLW to KCHS)
85-1270 ------- 15:15:34.946 C-12T OSACOM/Ar.NG
01-0030 SPAR30 14:55:55.626 C-37A 310thAS (Arr ADW)
07-7178 RCH280 14:22:37.100 C-17A 3rdAS/436thAW (Arr ADW)
62-3542 RCH2542 14:19:44.992 KC-135R AFRC/916ARW/77ARS
68-0222 RCH8222 13:59:03.071 C-5A 167thAS/WVANG (Thanks Ron for the c/s - missed it)
N621FE FDX9076 13:57:13.123 MD-11 FedEx (KMEM to KWRI - 134.1)
160049 JT-966 13:42:25.243 C-9B VR-52
01-0041 VENUS31 13:38:57.419 C-40B 1stAS
58-0107 MAINE91 13:29:43.041 KC-135R ANG/ME/132ARS
74-1670 HAZRD71 13:27:09.076 C-130H 317AG/40AS
84-0172 PAT---- 13:07:47.094 C-12T OSACOM Det6 CT-ArNG
98-0001 VENUS91 13:04:06.117 C-32A 1st AS (Rtrn ADW area)
83-0082 TEAM34 13:00:51.623 KC-10A 305th AMW (Rtrn WRI - 139.875/319.4/124.6)
83-0081 TEAM33 12:59:35.657 KC-10A 305th AMW (Rtrn WRI - 139.875/319.4/124.6)
166376 NAVY376 12:55:03.480 C-37B VR-1 (Dep ADW 118.95)
84-0077 PACER50 12:52:01.487 C-21A 457th AS (Dep ADW late @1750Z)
166377 VM 377 12:47:27.154 C-37B VR-1 (Arr ADW - Land 1318) (VM=MARINE)
02-0042 HOOK 40 12:37:39.632 C-40C 76th AS (Return ADW/Land 1251 118.4)
N54.... N54.... 12:35:25.123 LJ60 FAA
------- ------- 12:34:31.671 C-130 Unknown (hex AE13E6)
84-0137 JOSA051 12:24:31.199 C-21A 457th AS (Arr ADW)
160290 SCORE04 12:08:01.547 P-3C VX-20/WB
84-0192 TEAM05 11:54:03.257 KC-10A 305thAMW (Dep WRI & to FL380 quickly)
160049 JT-966 11:48:19.175 C-9B VR-52 (Dep ADW 125.65 to 133.9)
98-0001 VENUS91 11:43:23.320 C-31A 1st AS (Dep ADW 125.65 to 133.9)
59-1469 DECEE31 11:42:10.951 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS (Return ADW...w/Twr @1208)
04-4133 RCH511T 11:38:48.654 C-17A 6th AS (Dep ADW 125.65/124.55 to KPHL)
91-0505 PAT851 11:13:54.656 C-26B OSACOM Det 17 NC-ArNG (Arr ADW)
02-0042 HOOK 40 11:06:52.374 C-40C 76th AS (Dep ADW 125.65)
74-1674 E41674 10:53:40.359 C-130H 317AG/40AS (Dep ADW to KNGU 349.5) (Display HAZRD74)
160049 JT-966 10:50:42.359 C-9B VR-52 (Arr ADW)
160290 SCORE04 10:41:42.359 P-3C VX-20/WB (Working Pax)
84-0137 JOSA 051 10:36:47.359 C-21A 457thAS (Dep ADW)
161309 7N-812 10:26:20.015 UC-12B Washington (Arr ADW)
83-0081 TEAM33 10:24:26.406 KC-10A 305thAMW (With 34) (Display DUCE16)
83-0082 TEAM34 10:24:24.812 KC-10A 305thAMW (Fm WRI on Comm 1-139.875)
84-0131 JOSA063 10:22:54.406 C-21A 457thAS (Dep ADW) (Display PACER88)
N123DN RYN7794 10:21:48.375 B-767 Ryan Intl.
57-1507 ROCCO64 10:20:52.359 KC-135E ANG/NJ/108ARW/ (Dep WRI)
01-0041 VENUS31 09:58:12.921 C-40B 1stAS
HZ-101 HZ101 09:31:45.890 B737-7DP/BBJ SaudiAF
01.... CG101 09:31:30.453 C-37A CGASWashingtonD.C.
89-1192 RCH9192 09:30:42.234 C-17A 437thAW
59-1469 DECEE31 09:20:23.593 KC-135R AFRC/459ARW/756ARS (Dep ADW)
84-0137 JOSA 051 09:16:11.234 C-21A 457thAS (Arr ADW)
62-1834 RCH2206 08:49:16.281 C-130 314thAW/61stAS (BULL 95 displayed)
161309 7N-812 08:45:30.375 UC-12B Washington (Dep ADW)
04-4133 RCH511T 08:42:57.843 C-17A 6thAS (Arr ADW)
N810AX RCH290 08:37:23.234 DC10 OmniAirInternationa\\
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B-1B 86-0112 has been showing up occasionally, seems to be descending slowly.
1742- Down to 9800 and gone. Langley maybe? Originally it was at 20k.

Travis, I think you have a wrong ID in your system for that guy. If it was ADFF00, the tail should be 96-0112, an Army C-12. I heard him on 133.9 calling himself "Army 112." I've never seen a B-1B turn on a Mode-S transponder.
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Yikes!!!! No other words for this...
http://www.inauguration.dc.gov/pdf/InaugJIC_PressRelease_TransportationPlan_FINAL.pdf
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Ref below: Thanks Tony for the NELI info.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: NELI 104

Hi Tin,

NELI 104 = JS32 FAA DCA-ACY shuttle. Also NELI 101/102/103.

Tony

NOTE: See also post #4348 in III.

Who is NELLIE 104?