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1418: Flight of four COLT (A-10 MD-ANG Martin State) off the deck. 347.2
They are using squadron callsign RAVEN while on various TRACON freqs.
The COLTs went to Warren Grove Range. Over the past couple of weeks, they have gone there several times and I've never been able to find the range freq. Anyone have it? It's not on 286.2.
1427: VENUS 41 (99th Airlift Squadron) approaching Andrews for landing at 1445. 378.1
1429: COLTs switch to 142.3.
1430: RAVEN (A-10 MD-ANG) off the deck. 347.2
1444: MUSSEL 1 & 4 on 292.2.

1512: The A-10s check in at Kiowa Range 237.2 and then disappear. Not another peep.
1520: PACER 22 (89th Airlift Wing C-21 or C-12) reports he was airborne from Andrews at 1506. Says he'll be back in a few hours. 141.55
1528: EVAC 126, tail #118, arrival notice to Andrews in 25 minutes. 1 patient on board, needs ambo to meet acft. Parking on 10 row. 378.1
1531: Four COLTs back on 142.3
1534: RAVENs report in on 347.2 with Raven Ops...two Code 1s, two Code 2s.
1537: Raven 1 to Raven SOF wanting to know whether to use runway 15 or 33 for DM (maintenance crew). Mother Hen says whichever, she'll coordinate DM.
1541: COLT to Raven Ops reports all four are Code 1s. Apparently, both flights were of four aircraft.
1542. RAVEN flight landing runway 33, COLT flight on 15. But they want 33 also.
1543: COLTs approved for 33.
1546: Chat among the A-10 pilots indicates some are deploying or transferring. One pilot is told the three guys off his wing are more experienced but this flight will be the last time he sees more experienced pilots than himself on his wing. Talking about a bunch of lieutenants coming in. Also talking about their drinking exploits. Typical pilot chat.
1550: Switch to 297.2...COLT 2/3/4 will be full stop.
Must be a fantastic sight to watch eight A-10s coming in.
By 1600 almost all have landed or are in final approach.
END OF REPORT (Important stuff like cutting the grass must be done.)

NOTE-Right after takeoff, the RAVENs cleared through TRACON freqs 282.275, 291.625, 281.525. The first two freqs are BWI but I don't know which area the third one covers. Perhaps Philadelphia although it doesn't appear on the AIRNAV charts for KPHL.
 
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I also heard Colts earlier on 143.8, around 1100 enroute to "the Range"

281.525 is Harrisburg........
 

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Thanks Chuck. I didn't hear the handoff - just found them on that 281.525 so wasn't sure where it was. Usually, they just mention going to "the range" without specifying which but this afternoon they were specific. Warren Grove used to use 286.2 but apparently not lately.

[Edit] And there's 281.525 right in the midst of my Harrisburg list...just plain missed it at first look.
 
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Just caught ATAR-4 calling Mcguire Command Post on 319.4, Self id'ed squadron as VQ-4, so most likely a E-6!
 

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Excellent catch Chuck! Added ATAR to callsign list. It seems to be SOP for the E3 aircraft from Tinker AFB OK to deploy to McGuire and this would indicate that the E6A/B unit from Tinker is perhaps doing the same.
 

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Don't know if the exercise is going to happen tonight but I heard a transmission on the CAP air/ground freq 149.5375 shortly after 11 pm.
2318: And another transmission passing some checkpoint. (Which I couldn't hear - noise from other radios.)
 
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TinEar said:
Don't know if the exercise is going to happen tonight but I heard a transmission on the CAP air/ground freq 149.5375 shortly after 11 pm.

I just heard "Standby" loud and clear on 282.425.

Update: Omaha-03 is up. The other unit asked if they were on Network 1.
 
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1120 Omaha with THor on 165.2375
Same voice(Omaha) up on 121.5 as well, looking to move to the south
1127 165.2375 Omaha with Thor, heading south and "ready to go"
{edit} not hearing THor at all here in AA County, MD

CAP Flight ?25? up on ATC 124.55

Huntress is too weak for me to hear... THor is also just barely too weak.... Need to get that antenna higher.

1152 CAP Flight 2581 change to 119.85
 
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freqhopping said:
I just heard "Standby" loud and clear on 282.425.

And the Customs freq 163.2375 just became active so it looks like it's on.

[Edit] Are they having a problem or is that static really encryption that's not working correctly?
OMAHA 03
 
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I can hear Omaha but Thor is very weak - just the reverse of your reception.

HUNTRESS calling OMAHA for radio check on 228.90.
Same thing on 260.90.

Is this the height of excitement? NOT

2336: Radio checks continuing on HUNTRESS freqs with no response from OMAHA.

2338: THOR coming in fairly well now on 165.2375...THOR giving vectoring info to OMAHA for a target at 3000 feet.

THOR suddenly booming in here. Chuck, you reading him now?

OMAHA having radio problems..that static was static, not encryption.
2341: another vector being given for a target.

Chuck...tune into the website if you can't hear THOR.
freqhopping: how are you hearing both sides now?

2346: 149.5375 CAP Mission 2581 checking in...ops normal report.
He doesn't sound like he's part of this mission.
 
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Omaha has been covered with static the entire time. Thor is still 100%.

I've been focusing on my BC250D, but I paid a little more attention to my Icom R10 (which was sitting on 165.2365) just before things went quiet. On the Icom I could hear Omaha just fine, with its original antenna no less. :confused:


0027-Comms on 282.425 have sucked for me. Fairly weak and lots of static if anything at all.
No comms received on the Icom at this point, even with my supplemental antenna attached (speaker wire run out the window and tossed up onto the roof, that connected to a Ratshack mag mount is my BC250 ant.)

0101-Finally receiving comms again on 282.425, both scanners. I think I finally got the recording sorted out on my other computer. It never works right on this one, new laptop.
Figures they are now RTB.
 
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Sure got quiet. (That should make them start up again now that I said that)

2350: It did. THOR got weak again. OMAHA is going to "mosey" back to the north.

I wonder if that "moseying" back up north meant they were done. The patching to 165.2375 was lousy and didn't allow them to perform the mission it seemed.
 
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1155 282.425 Thor to Omaha-3 "Setup for ....."
I'm only hearing THor on this one.....

0001 CAP 2581 to 119.7

0006 (Same as TinEar, Thor only on 282.425) Starting Run in 5 Minutes

Panama-34????? I sure didn't hear that... Omaha-3,Thor might sound like 3 4 ..

OK, I maybe heard "Panama' that time or maybe "AND,omaha"

Now I have both sides....

JUDY = Aircrew has radar/visual contact on the correct target. Don't know where I first heard that.. It might be a Navy thing.


CAP2581 is probably the target aircraft, he' s on 119.7, which is the 131-180 sector of BWI, and thats pretty much where the intercept was if Omaha had to go around Andrews to go back to the south.... That wouldn't involve a lot of comms...

0036 CAP 2581 to 119.85.. 2516 shows up here too... This is a National approach freq so they moved south, where Thor told omaha the next run would be, 2581 mentioned going to IP 4 during his ops normal checkin...

0042 Potomac looking for 2581 on 119.7 telling him to come up 119.85
0046 Now calling on Guard asking him to come up 125.65

0050 new target 282.425 , hearing Thor only


0100 sounds like there going to run one more intercept, then again maybe not - Exercise terminated.
Did it sound like Omaha-2 this time?

 
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I put all these freqs in a spare bank. Just realized I entered 282.45 rather than 282.425 so was missing any traffic on that freq. Have it fixed now.

0006: Have THOR loud and clear on 282.425 but not hearing OMAHA at all on that freq. And he's now calling the aircraft PANAMA 3 (or that's what I'm hearing)
Got rid of the 34 almost immediately after realizing the 4 was THOR. Still hearing PANAMA though.

0012: Now hearing both sides of the conversation on 282.425. Getting a new target.

0015: THOR says they issued a Capitol Scram(ble). Let's see if something actually flies.

Well, aircraft is definitely calling himself OMAHA 03 but darned if I don't still hear PANAMA from THOR.
0019: OMAHA has a "JUDY"...and what might that be?

0022: CAP flight 2581 doing his 30 minute check in...still doesn't seem to be part of this.
For the exercise...bogie not responding to visual. (Will they shoot him down? Exercise, of course.)
0026: tfc on 121.5...OMAHA asking if bogie is up on that freq.
Terminating exercise at that point.
Turning to the south after going around Andrews for another run.

Chuck, never heard JUDY before from Air Force...wonder if that's another service's term?
freqhopping: You getting both sides from your location in Loudoun?
(See your edit freqhopping...maybe go back to the 250?...both sides loud and clear for that northern run...they are going back to the south so maybe it'll get better down your way.)
Two CAP flights up - 2581 and 2516. 16 needs a new watch though.

0039: Starting again...OMAHA weaker but can still hear him.
0046: THOR on 121.5 telling CAP2516 to come up on 125.65. Guess that seals the deal that he's part of the exercise...da target.
0050: New target run starts..can't hear OMAHA. THOR booming.
0053: OMAHA far enough north to be heard again.
0100: OMAHA getting itchy to go home. Perhaps low on fuel? THOR tells him to hang on..exercise is still ongoing...awaiting word from the powers that be.
0104: Exercise is terminated
0113: CAP 2516 on 149.5375 tells CAP control he's coming home and will be in Annapolis in 10 minutes.
That was a rather boring exercise.
Goodnight everyone.
 
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1430-1435: 319.40 McGuire Command Post...AMUSE 22 reports awaiting DEUCE 92 and will be at IP point in 45 minutes (approximately 1945Z). DEUCE is a KC-10A tanker. No listing for AMUSE although he's starting to sound like a tanker also.
 

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Lots of morning activity today. DEVILs from NJ-ANG and COLTs from MD-ANG currently trying to share airspace in the Pax River training area. The A-10 COLT flight had above 10,000 feet and the F-16 DEVIL flight had below 10,000. The F-16s tried to get another chunk of airspace because of bad weather in their assigned zone and couldn't so they decided to RTB. (Sounded a bit whiny.) Earlier there was a flight of F-22 Raptor aircraft reported to be working in GIANT KILLER's area on 249.8 and 312.3 per message from Ron on Scan-DC. I don't usually have the scanner on real early in the day and missed them.

The COLTs from Martin State are working the Kiowa Range in the 14-1500 hours on 237.20.
 
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351.2 DeeCee 23 with another DeeCee aircraft, Andrews AFRC 756 ARS KC-135s discussing fuel weight at landing issues.

Quite a bit of chatter on this freq this evening

Alan, Thanks for the interplane freq!
 
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