What is "emergency communications"?

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The Skywarn groups in Southwest Michigan are still very active, and the NWS office in Grand Rapids has told us on a regular basis how much they appreciate us and the service we provide.
We hear that from the NWS offices in my area, too. But, during severe weather events, they still take phone calls from the public and monitor social media. The pipe that the information flows through is not nearly as important as the information itself. As I said, when I first got involved in Skywarn, amateur radio was much more important to the NWS than it is now, in my opinion.
 

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I think the public is, for the most part, completely unaware of or apathetic towards any service amateur radio in this day and age of the ubiquity of cellular and wifi network coverage.

I find it interesting that the FCC/FEMA web page to the general public doesn't mention amateur radio in any of their advice. There is nothing like, "if you need to get a message through, go find a ham radio operator." :D


Having said that, hams are often involved in large scale disaster communications. Katrina for example. Local emergencies, other than Skywarn spotting, not so much. Local law enforcement and fire departments generally consider the ARES brigade to be a nuisance if they show up to "help."

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Maybe in your specific area public safety radio systems are not well reinforced, but that's certainly not the case everywhere. Here in earthquake country, it's common for radio sites to have 24 hours of battery backup plus generators on site with several days worth of fuel. Many sites are also starting to add solar panels. Contracts are in place to deliver fuel at periodic intervals to keep the systems running. Add in a shore power connection, and a trailerable generator can be brought on site.

Since the last 2 moderate to large quakes in the state, and the two largest in the past 20 years, occurred within 20 miles of the house here, we have suffered over 100,000 after shocks since July of 2019 (only about 1200 - 1500 of them were large enough to feel here at the house), and we are still suffering ~25 aftershocks every day, I think this might qualify as "earthquake country". Since statehood there have been 4 recorded 7.0 or larger quakes within 75 miles of the house, and a whole lot of 5's and 6's.

Yes, I know public service stuff is well suited to emergency power for periods of time, and that is why I did not pick 2 or 7 days in my examples, but 14 or 28 or longer. I have little doubt that they can keep most comms working for a week if we are talking about a 100 mile radius being impacted, even for a relatively dense population center. But what if it was a larger area and several large population centers were seriously impacted? Sure, they can absolutely keep comms to some key areas going, no question, but there are not enough pre-positioned alternate power sources to keep the majority of comms up over a really extended area.

We, as a nation, have been very fortunate (and part of that is preparation, which is improving all the time) that even for our "bad" disasters we have been comparatively well prepared. The size of the nation, the diversity in probable and potential disaster scenarios, means that the USA is one of the worst case situations to be prepared for things. We talk about preparations being failures when power is down in a limited area for 14 days after a major storm or other event, because the population is jaded to it all, the majority think it can't happen much worse than that.

They are wrong.

A really large series of quakes, which does have the potential, even the probability, of actually happening along combined faults including the SAF, the Sierra Nevada, the Garlock faults, Walker lane, and the Eastern California Shear Zone, could realistically disrupt all (not just some) of the major transmission lines into the entirety of Southern California. Every single major transmission line into the area either crosses or runs along (sometimes for extended distances) major fault lines. It would be a case of not one 100 kV+ line going down, but several, along significant stretches, and several major distribution points being impacted. That would cause a situation were it would be, not could be, but rather would be, months to reestablish power to large areas. You could throw every resource in the US at it and it would still be months, no matter how hard you work it takes time to fabricate things like transformers, towers, and HV switch gear, and there are a limited number of those spares on hand in the nation.

Under such conditions the contractors prepared to deliver fuel eventually would not get the fuel they need to to get to the sites.

Now, I am not a doom and gloom, death porn, kind of guy, but scientist say such an event is almost inevitable, the only question is when. It could be tomorrow or it could be 250 years from now. That makes it a real possibility to me, not a conspiracy nutter kind of thing.

I know we have ridden out a 6.4 and then 36 hours later a 7.1 with direct line of sight to the epicenters. I lost power for all of 15 seconds. We personally were, and are, earthquake (and consequently other event) prepared. Our biggest issue, other than the wife being a bit upset by the events, was the water that slopped out of the fish tanks onto the carpet and the fact that 4 of my favorite Scotch glasses fell out of a cupboard and broke. I also did lose a couple of antennas, but had others to take up the slack. For a couple of days we turned it into a reason to camp out on the property, sleeping outside instead of in the house, while we waited to see if further large events would take place. I have power backup on hand that can run our well for about 40 days (running it long enough each day to refill the storage tank), so assuming the well casing is not damaged we have fresh, pretty much unlimited, water for that duration. If I can get more diesel I can extend that. I could work something out from the solar system to drive the well, but that would cost me what the solar system is running, which is currently all of my communications gear but can include things like the refrigerator and air conditioning if needed. We have supplies on hand to easily, comfortably, literally no change from today, last 45+ days with no power, no water, no communications, no supplies, and no support outside our own fence line. If it looked like it might be longer than that we could reduce / modify some usage / consumption and extend it pretty easily to 90+ days with only moderate considerations.

If we ever need to exercise that kind of preparedness I think that communications, including emergency communications, might be down to a few sources, and I think that might, would in my case, include ham radio.

And that is a key to why I think ham radio has a part in emergency communications. I don't normally view it to augment the functions of police, fire, or ambulance, although if required it probably could help there. I view it to carry information that those services do not want the traffic of. News, messages, and contact in and out of a region, filling the ever decreasing gaps in public service and general communications, things like that. That is "emergency" communications to me, communications when other things break down, which in a bad enough situation they will do, even if such a bad situation is nearly beyond reasonable thought.

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@Token Your last paragraph, in my mind at least, justifies the "When all else fails." slogan.
The hams that participate in the NTS and traffic nets, whether they realize it or not, are training for EMCOMM. Puerto Rico or Honduras or the DR get hit by a hurricane, and commercial telephone service is wiped out; The first thing to be reconstituted is amateur radio. Tower gone? No problem; throw a wire up in a tree or between a couple of buildings, and you're back in the fight.
 
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If we ever need to exercise that kind of preparedness I think that communications, including emergency communications, might be down to a few sources, and I think that might, would in my case, include ham radio.

And that is a key to why I think ham radio has a part in emergency communications. I don't normally view it to augment the functions of police, fire, or ambulance, although if required it probably could help there. I view it to carry information that those services do not want the traffic of. News, messages, and contact in and out of a region, filling the ever decreasing gaps in public service and general communications, things like that. That is "emergency" communications to me, communications when other things break down, which in a bad enough situation they will do, even if such a bad situation is nearly beyond reasonable thought.

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That's some great points you brought up.

I'm in a bit of a unique situation when it comes to this stuff. I have some resources available that would keep us up and running for a long time. We just installed a 4mw solar plant that is tied into our grid, so at minimum I'd have power whenever the sun was up to run the rectifier plants and recharge batteries. Our fleet services has 10,000 gallons of Diesel and at least that much gasoline in tanks. In a big enough event, that would be rationed. They have a truck with a large transfer tank, so getting fuel out to the remote sites wouldn't be an issue. I'd have to look at how far 10K gallons would get me, but I suspect we could stretch it out several months if needed. Pooling our resources with adjacent cities and the county, we'd probably fall back on one of the radio systems and just use everything we had to keep that up and running. Between us, city and county resources, we'd have the fuel, mechanics, spare generators, radio techs and spare parts to keep things up and running for a long time.

But even if we did get to a point of failure once all that was exhausted, I'd expect National Guard and other resources to have relief on site in a week or so. Being close to the ocean, getting resources brought in would not be a challenge.

But seriously, it's unlikely we'd ever get to that point. And even if we did, hams would be having the same issues. Many hams may have solar power and a small portable generator, but having months of water, food, medicine and shelter is unlikely. The same scenarios that might impact public safety is going to impact amateurs, but the public safety is going to have resources and priority access that hams won't.
And don't rule out the fact that most radios techs are also hams. I'd be 90% are. And while a ham is building a dipole antenna to get their station back on the air, I'd probably be doing the same thing to get our agency back on the air.

You sound like you are in a unique situation with your setup. I like it. My brother in law has a similar setup in far northern California, 100% off grid, with the exception of needing internet access. He has an installed generator that can run his whole place with a few hundred gallons of propane, as well as the ability to plug in a portable generator to run critical loads if needed. He recently installed a solar system that will run his whole place, including the well pump, indefinitely.


To be fair, any event that size and that long would have a completely different response plan. I'd expect National Guard/Military to be involved and assisting with getting necessary resources (fuel/food/water/shelter) into any of our areas. It might be stretched thin, but eventually prioritization of resource allotments would be established and communications would be near the head of the line. I could imagine scenarios where amateur radio would be used for a short time, but not long term. Considering all the systems and resources I have access to, there's nothing amateur radio operators have that we do not.
 

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I always thought that amateur radio existed so that we can advance the art of radio science.

Yes. At least it was so in the past, but today that's largely (60%? 90%?) only theoretically so, thanks largely in part that today's youth wants instant gratification: turn on their cell 'phone & start playing games right now. Gratification by means involving patience and time (like when building a circuit or antenna) is almost unheard of.
 

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@Token Your last paragraph, in my mind at least, justifies the "When all else fails." slogan.
The hams that participate in the NTS and traffic nets, whether they realize it or not, are training for EMCOMM.
The digital traffic nets that use one of the sound card digital modes are capable of passing accurate traffic. However, the data rate is too slow. Some ARES teams are using advanced data communications, but I think they are few and far between. And, they are islands of high-speed data in an ocean of low-speed relay nets.

The CW traffic nets can be fairly accurate, but there's no automatic error checking. And, they are way too slow.

The voice traffic nets are, in my opinion, way too slow and require too many retries to get a message passed.
 

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Well, that would depend on the event.
Used to be REACT did a lot of that stuff on CB and/or GMRS. They've mostly disappeared now. Back in the 70's/80's, there were CB clubs that offered these sorts of services.
Amateur radio can absolutely fill that role now, and do it quite well.

REACT is still around. We have a fairly active group here in San Diego, or we were until the pandemic cancelled all the events we used to work. There are still enough active teams to warrant a full international organization. For the most part, REACT teams have moved over to amateur radio and left CB and GMRS behind. There's just so much more we can do with it, especially in an area like SoCal with it's plethora of repeaters available for use.

The current ARES training plan and task book address this. Some ARES groups have adopted it, but, unfortunately, it is being met with resistance and apathy by some ARES volunteers. And, then, you have the problem of insular ARES groups who refuse to cross-train or interact with other ARES groups near them.

Our ARES group in SD has fully embraced the task book. Each group has the option to modify the book to suit it's own mission and particular served agency. What this is going to do is serve to weed out the older, recalcitrant hams that refuse to learn anything new and don't believe in continual training. (Those of us that served in the military know what happens if you don't continue to train. Your skills get stale and you can't perform to your fullest when needed.)
 

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What this is going to do is serve to weed out the older, recalcitrant hams that refuse to learn anything new and don't believe in continual training. (Those of us that served in the military know what happens if you don't continue to train. Your skills get stale and you can't perform to your fullest when needed.)

That's what I like to hear. Ham radio needs more of this.

Skills, training, experience, preparedness. That's what's needed. A bunch of radio operators that have no other skills isn't as useful as some think.

There was a comment on another thread about this one. A newer ham suggesting that we'd really need their help when the trunked systems fail. I think this is part of the issue. Newer hams don't understand how modern communications systems and techniques work. Sure, my trunked system can fail. But there are conventional repeaters at other sites. I have lots of spares and the tools/training/staff to replace failed gear. There are lots of simplex frequencies. We have MOU's with other agencies to use their radio systems in an emergency. I think hams need to do a better job of understanding modern technology and methods, that would probably help them understand where they can fit in a bit more. I don't see a situation where we'd need ham radio operators riding on fire trucks, ambulances or patrol cars. Building fall back high speed data networks would be helpful, though.
 

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REACT is still around. We have a fairly active group here in San Diego, or we were until the pandemic cancelled all the events we used to work. There are still enough active teams to warrant a full international organization. For the most part, REACT teams have moved over to amateur radio and left CB and GMRS behind. There's just so much more we can do with it, especially in an area like SoCal with it's plethora of repeaters available for use.



Our ARES group in SD has fully embraced the task book. Each group has the option to modify the book to suit it's own mission and particular served agency. What this is going to do is serve to weed out the older, recalcitrant hams that refuse to learn anything new and don't believe in continual training. (Those of us that served in the military know what happens if you don't continue to train. Your skills get stale and you can't perform to your fullest when needed.)

There is one thing that I have noticed with the groups around the country is that the California groups seem to have their act together and work well the the organizations that they serve.
 

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I would argue that it doesn't matter what part 97 says, as the implementation of the regulations has not focused on emergency communications at all. If emergency communications actually mattered, it would be covered extensively on the exams. Amateur radio is a hobby, plain and simple, so stop obsessing over your "go box" that will never actually be used in an emergency.
 

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Don't sell the service short.
In a disaster NYPD is not going to call the local ham radio club to get them back on the air. Maybe none of the top 100 Metro areas. However many a small county sheriff or volunteer fire department might. Schools, hospitals, transportation, shelters, those institutions that would be lower repair priority than police and fire might call on amateurs for assistance. That is emergency communications. Relaying information on an ad hoc network possibly without fixed stations or commercial power.

Just because the NWS will take phone calls from the general public does not mean SKYWARN is not needed. One of the first things I do when severe weather threatens is monitor SKYWARN and local public safety freqs on the scanner. If my power (TV) and cell service goes out, I still have access to the info. Having options is good.
 

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On HF AX.25 packet radio is too slow and nearly useless except under ideal conditions. There are other modes that work way better.

With all the noise & signal fades on HF, I can certainly understand that, and unless you've got a mode specifically made for operating with a bad signal to noise ratio (like PSK-35) that'd probably apply to other digital modes as well. Possibly one way to avoid noise & fading is to use VHF (or UHF) FM, and transmit data that way. It's even possible to get decent range: I've seen that done by repeaters that were networked over an entire state (and with enough cooperation & coordination it could most likely go beyond state boundries).
 

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Don't sell the service short.
In a disaster NYPD is not going to call the local ham radio club to get them back on the air. Maybe none of the top 100 Metro areas. However many a small county sheriff or volunteer fire department might. Schools, hospitals, transportation, shelters, those institutions that would be lower repair priority than police and fire might call on amateurs for assistance. That is emergency communications. Relaying information on an ad hoc network possibly without fixed stations or commercial power.

Just because the NWS will take phone calls from the general public does not mean SKYWARN is not needed. One of the first things I do when severe weather threatens is monitor SKYWARN and local public safety freqs on the scanner. If my power (TV) and cell service goes out, I still have access to the info. Having options is good.

Here in upstate NY, I've seen hams brought in to supplement local agency comms after ice storms and Tropical Storm Irene. Skywarn is active too. I run the Commuter Assistance Net in the Capital District most workday mornings. It's not emergency comms, but we do assist in getting help for folks in distress, and the theory of the case is that some folks are able to avoid problems because of the information we share with net participants and the NYS Department of Transportation's Traffic Management Center. If you are desperately curious, here's more info: Commuter Assistance Net

After the North Ridge earthquake in CA, there was a report from (IIRC) a fire captain that warned against relying on cell phones for communication . . . all the towers were overloaded. His bottom line: you cannot be overprepared for communications in an emergency.

IMHO, you're right: having options is good. And I take mmckenna's point: having training is good; real good. Having an untrained ham show up, eager to help, during an emergency is not helpful; it actually subtracts from efficiency.
 

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Having an untrained ham show up, eager to help, during an emergency is not helpful; it actually subtracts from efficiency.
It's also a tremendous liability to have anyone, ham radio or not, on a scene who isn't properly trained and vetted and part of the response. This is why AUXCOMM is the ONLY way to fly. Vet, train, certify, utilize. Keep the control within the served agency where it needs to be. Self dispatching is a no-no unless someone is actually part of the official response request.
 

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Vet, train, certify, utilize.
The actual first step is to find the agency in your area that is even willing to work with you in any sort of minor way before expecting them to " Vet, train, certify, utilize." If no agency will even acknowledge your existence and usefulness, stop trying to get in their face and just do other things on your own. We will all probably age 10 to 20 years before they even come looking for us. Teach yourselves the needed skills of traffic handling, datamodes, antenna building, the science of signals and propagation, working with local charities, etc. Leave the agencies alone in their arrogance. If you are lucky to live in a small town (as opposed to the big bad city like I do), maybe you will have better luck. However, you need to be as professional and adult as possible or you will shoot yourselves in the foot. Be like a duck swimming on the lake - cool and collected above the waterline and paddling furiously underneath!
 

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