WV Interoperability System

[wvufan]

I finally got a Pro-96. The only thing I should be able to pick up on this system is the Boone County Simulcast, but I have a question. How do you put this in your scanner? The database does not have a control channel for it. I am new to digital and would appreciate any help. Thanks!!!

 

[wvufan]

I guess nobody can help me with my post above, but I do go to Charleston a lot and have put that in my scanner. Can anyone tell me how active that part of this system is?

 

[wvufan]

I went to Charleston a few days ago and found out this sytem is not very active yet. I only picked up talkgroup 903. I'm not sure I had my scanner set right because only the talkgroup came up and I didn't hear anyone talking. Also when I stop on the CC in manual I picked up this BEE00, T0109, and SY170. I am assuming these are towers? Anyway sorry for the triple post I guess I'm just excited I finally have a Pro-96.

 

[fmon]

I went to Charleston a few days ago and found out this sytem is not very active yet. I only picked up talkgroup 903. I'm not sure I had my scanner set right because only the talkgroup came up and I didn't hear anyone talking. Also when I stop on the CC in manual I picked up this BEE00, T0109, and SY170. I am assuming these are towers? Anyway sorry for the triple post I guess I'm just excited I finally have a Pro-96.

I don't know how I missed your two previous post because I subscribe to this feed. Anyway, you will need to set the scanner up as follows:
PGM>TRUNK>FUNC + 2
BASE=453.02500 (use the numbered keys for this setting), press ENTER
Offset=8192 (use the numbered keys for this setting), press ENTER
Step=12.5 (use the Down button for this setting), press ENTER
FUNC + 4
Use the Up button until Table is on line 4, press ENTER
Press SCAN

You are correct, the tower for Charleston is 109 and the SysID is 170. If you don't hear a CC for Boone, it may be they have not started that system yet. The last time I went through the Charleston/Huntington area, they were still testing, so if ID 903 came up, the must be active. Next time you are in that area, you should be able to get voice traffic if you scanner is set as above. Try to take note of any ID's you capture and submit an update to the database page.

I may go through going west near the 25th and return the first week in June.

 

[wvufan]

Thanks for the reply fmon. I try to go to Charleston at least a couple times a month, and will report anything I hear.

 

[smwincva]

N Mountain (Berkeley Co) on the air

About 1am today I heard someone "come get your radios". Within 30 minutes, many talkgroups came to life with "test test test" and the like. About 3am, while enroute to a 911 alarm call, someone said "turn off the old radios and use the new ones." All went well and now I can here the Martinsburg PD (I could hear the Berkeley County Sherriff Office before.) Than there was a medic call, and another medic that was clearing a call, both of which I heard on a few talk groups.

Here are a few of the talkgroups I discovered in the first 2 hours of operation:

1107 Berkeley Co Sheriff
1109 Martinsburg PD
1101 Berkeley Co Fire Dispatch
1133 Berkeley Co Fire Tac 1

Steve

 

[brucewarming]

Great Steve! I heard them getting a little busy last night and this morning. Got pen in hand and started listing them, cause I was going to post!!! Well I'll be darned, your on top of it! Great! So far I'am in agreement with your listings.
I see Thunderbolt has been up all night and has updated the database also. I have been logging with the PRO96COM software and logged near 100 different talk groups and about that for radio Id's also.

 

[Thunderbolt]

I see Thunderbolt has been up all night and has updated the database also.

Wow Bruce, you sure don't miss much, do you? :wink: Yes, I do tend to be a real night owl.

Yours truly,

Ron

 

[Thunderbolt]

I wonder when the next wave or phase of this system is supposed to happen? I always expect to see additional tower sites pending before the FCC for final approval. I am sure that the State wants to get this project moving ASAP, especially since the Turnpike wants to upgrade its radio system to Project 25 specs.

73's

Ron

 

[mike_s104]

here's some more info that I have came across in Berkeley Co. from listening the past few days and from the help of Bruce. these are in addition to what's listed on the RR page. this also comfirms some info we had gathered in the past during the testing. some of the below is from my logging software and recorded transmissions.

9821 MED A
9823 MED B
9825 MED C
9827 MED D
8021 Encrypted. just heard this a few mins ago
1106 heard this a few days ago (well, it was about 2am). sounded like Berkeley Co Sheriff's dept. have not heard it since. I may be wrong since I "remembered" it and it's even where all the others are odd numbers
1175 heard this today. someone was coming back to the office. animal control?
1127 sounded like a radio tech
1183 radio tech trying to troubleshoot a dispatch issue on the fire channel
1193 heard "copy, secure, 4:06"
1927 I heard this group being used yesterday. someone said "Harrison Co. 911 to Berkeley Co on 911 channel" or something very close to that. I labeled it in my system as "County-to-County 911"
9989 ? mic keyed

I have been also listening to the old analog system as well. I have heard a few times EMS on the Berkeley Co. Sherrif's old freq of 453.525. it seems that 33.9 is simulcast on 453.525, 33.9 and TG 1101.

 

[mike_s104]

more talk groups:

1187 Fire traffic, sounded like operations. mentioned order and doing something to helmets
1135 testing
1137 mic keyed
1175 traffic about picking picking up a dog. I'm adding it to my system as "animal control"
1193 "checking your status"
1115 radio tech talking about how to put the "companies", guess fire cos.
1127 mic keyed
1181 radio techs
1903 radio techs testing some radios

I have also been hearing digital data on the following freqs:
452.875 old animal control (RR has it listed as something else)
453.750 Martinsburg PD old primary

 

[mike_s104]

I added 452.875 and 453.750 to my system and there is traffic on them.

 

[brucewarming]

OK! here goes. With WIN96 software for the PRO 96/2096 scanner
1. Prompt "MULTI TABLES"
2. Prompt "EXTENDED TRUNKING TABLES"
3. Do not prompt any "STANDARD PLANS"
4. "CH LOW" 8192 "CH HI" 12287 "BASE FREQ" 453.0250 "OFFSET" 8192 "STEP" 12.5
5. "CH LOW 12288 "CH HI" 16383 "BASE FREQ" 450.0000 "OFFSET" 12288 "STEP" 6.25
6. clear all other trunking tables, and prompt "OK"
7. Don't forget to save your file!
Berkeley co. Martinsburg started to use their old anolog freq's(452.875)(453.7500) as VC's and the one freq. was below 453.025 the base frequency.
This is from "TABLE 03" in the PRO96COM software, and the CH lo and CH high were got from WIN 96 help file.
Thunderbolt if this rings true to you, go ahead and enter it in the database. Thanks guys!
EDIT< I loaded the new tables and listened and logged,Seemed right!--- then reloaded the old tables and the scanner would try go to an out of range frequency.

 

[smwincva]

I have only 1 TG to add tonight & I'm not certain about it.
1127 a medic unit clearing a call

I thought on one of the old analog freqs I heard the sheriff office being repeated there. And the Martinsburg Fire Company is repeated at 453.75 at full strength. Wondler how long that is going to last, as that is the primary dispatch freq in Augusta County VA. I occasionally hear traffic from there, even though it's 80 miles to my south. I bet those dispatchers down there wondered what happened!

On 453.525 I have heard on Berkeley Co Fire tones & dispatchers, but NOT a full repeated broadcast (ie no mobile radio traffic).

On 452.875 I thought heard a full repeated broadcast (portables, mobiles, & dispachers).

I see this system is really taking off. I wonder how long until the other counties nearby will get online too. I don't want to fill my 100 Tg IDs only with Berkeley County's. I will leave room for the future growth from it's nieghbors.

I also see I need to add the new freqs so I can pick more of the transmissions up.

Steve

 

[smwincva]

I thought on one of the old analog freqs I heard the sheriff office being repeated there. And the Martinsburg Fire Company is repeated at 453.75 at full strength. Wondler how long that is going to last, as that is the primary dispatch freq in Augusta County VA. I occasionally hear traffic from there, even though it's 80 miles to my south. I bet those dispatchers down there wondered what happened!


On 452.875 I thought heard a full repeated broadcast (portables, mobiles, & dispachers).



Steve

Well after looking over the 2 new freqs listed for the system, that explain what I heard today were the new freqs. Also would explain the TG testing and the noise in many of the tranmissions especially on 453.75 which I have in 2 banks. I'll need to add the PL code in both banks now.

Steve

 

[Thunderbolt]

I added 452.875 and 453.750 to my system and there is traffic on them.

I would eventually look for the other UHF frequencies used in Berkeley County and other areas to be added to the Statewide TRS, as they migrate over to the new system. Since the number of UHF channel pairs are limited, frequency recycling makes the most sense at this point. Likewise, I would suspect that they will add more frequency pairs that are not normally allocated for public safety operations. This means that any business, utility, and even the old 454 MHz Radiotelephone frequencies are fair game at this point.

73's

Ron

 

[Thunderbolt]

I see this system is really taking off. I wonder how long until the other counties nearby will get online too. I don't want to fill my 100 Tg IDs only with Berkeley County's. I will leave room for the future growth from it's nieghbors.

I also see I need to add the new freqs so I can pick more of the transmissions up.

Steve

All total, each site can fully support 28 frequency pairs, and in some cases up to 30. Likewise, the technological backbone of this system will fully support simulcasting, which means that if each county or city wanted to, they could add several tower sites across their area, and broadcast off each tower, on the same frequency at the same time. Simulcast systems allow for full coverage, and limited use of frequency pairs in a certain geographical area.

I am really curious to see how this system will expand in the future, especially as more cities and counties migrate over to the new Project 25 technology.

73's

Ron

 

[JESSERABBIT]

BRUCEWARMING-Thank you very much for your post yesterday at 0842 PM. I finally got Pro-96 up and running on N Mountain. It works like like a champ. Could not have done it without your help. Is REALLY appreciated.

 

[fmon]

4. "CH LOW" 8192 "CH HI" 12287 "BASE FREQ" 453.0250 "OFFSET" 8192 "STEP" 12.5
5. "CH LOW 12288 "CH HI" 16383 "BASE FREQ" 450.0000 "OFFSET" 12288 "STEP" 6.25

Bruce, I see the above in the database. When did the system change to multi-table? None the less, I've upgraded two of three scanners here at my PC. Yet to clone the 2096 in the car. Also it looks like you have 6 or 7 new enthusiastic helpers and Ron is busy as usual.

 

[brucewarming]

I got home from work last night and got DG on old anolog frequencys and with the other single table when the system used 452.875 as a voice channel it then tried to follow and would go to 509.???? I noticed it showed with PRO96COM it was a table 03 with the 450.000 base, same band wideth, but a step size of 0.00625 instead of the 0.0125. OK being I have less time to figure, If you wish to confirm my thinking, I know your not close enough to do a logging. Thanks! OH, I sent the change in to Thunderbolt