slowmover
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Always small.
Not aware what differences (19 vs 23)
Not aware what differences (19 vs 23)
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2023 Best Mobile CB
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I've seen the Lincoln II+ talked about quite a bit and am considering ordering one in the next day or two. Does it perform well out of the box or do these suffer from poor QC from the factory and need to be tuned to sound good. I am planning on doing the conversion once I receive it unless these need to be cleaned up out of the box. If so, I'll just have the conversion done along with a tune.
DeeEx
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May I ask if you’ve considered the 5555N II?
Because I was solidly on the Lincoln bandwagon until I dug deeper both here and on CB-specific forums.
Re-read this entire thread or search for relevant posts from Slowmover if you want some detailed yet concise info.
I’ve been in the hobby for over 40 years. I received my 5555N II about a week ago. I’ve spent about four hours with it, and I can tell you that in no uncertain terms that it is an absolute game-changer. I am extremely happy that I chose it over the Lincoln and I’m still learning.
I have yet to try it on FM or use the CTCSS/DCS tones, but on AM and SSB it’s a great performer with an incredible stock mic. There are so many parameters to adjust that I think I can say “it’s a radio that’s perfect for everyone!”
My only caveat, as I mentioned somewhere before in this thread, is that this is a large radio. It will probably not be practical for a small vehicle or desk shelf. Look at the measurements before you buy and keep in mind that the heat sink needs adequate air flow.
I did look at it but due to its size it wouldn’t work for the space I have in my truck. Definitely looks like a nice radio. For anyone interested in the Lincoln, Walcott has them on sale right now and there’s also a promo code which takes another $47 off. Got it today for $271 shipped.
slowmover
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Linc 2+ needs the West Mountain Radio CLEARSPEECH DSP Speaker to be in any sense competitive with the latest Qixiang-board integrated NRC radios.
This amplified, variable filtration speaker was the game-changer for my experience from 2014 to 2023. Cleans up what the radio can’t filter for you.
See my earlier thread on this item.
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Linc 2+ needs the West Mountain Radio CLEARSPEECH DSP Speaker to be in any sense competitive with the latest Qixiang-board integrated NRC radios.
This amplified, variable filtration speaker was the game-changer for my experience from 2014 to 2023. Cleans up what the radio can’t filter for you.
See my earlier thread on this item.
CLRspkr ClearSpeech® DSP Noise Reduction Speaker - West Mountain Radio
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www.westmountainradio.com
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I will take a look at it. Thanks for the suggestion.
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slowmover
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As in Post #45, you’ll want Digital Signal Processing of the audio to have joined the 21st Century.
I’m not being cute, or anything similar. NRC seriously changes the whole of the experience. One hears farther, and he hears better.
Yesterday was another day on the road wherein I was southbound and conversing with another driver northbound until we were past ten miles distant. Towards the end I had men around me wondering aloud to whom in the F was I talking? This has been part of my norm for almost nine years (W-M DSP Speaker). Guys with exports and above-average systems otherwise.
And — unless one has been using Amateur Gear on 11-Meter (not allowed) — the lack of DSP means degraded performance against what’s possible.
I’ve desired to recommend the use of the item below with the D-E brand DX-901 speaker as I think it would be a great pairing. But I haven’t paired it and am thus hesitant versus the all-in-one speaker (above).
CLRdsp ClearSpeech® DSP Noise Reduction Processor - West Mountain Radio
Speaker and headphone amplifier with ClearSpeech® adaptive DSP noise reduction for voice and CW. Recognizes intermittent nature of CW and allows it to pass noise free. Continuously adjustable noise reduction. Contains 11 watt (into 4 ohms) power amplifier. Sturdy aluminum case - Ideal for mobile...
www.westmountainradio.com
The “modern radios” (SMT) such as Uniden 980 or the President Lincoln are sort of on the hissy side. Hi-Cut Filter “needed” for all-day listening while mobile. The separate processor brings more audio control via Tone Adjustment which is where I think the DX-901 would meet all audio requirements “best”. (Tailor it to your vehicle interior and ears).
An AT-6666 (same with Lincoln) lacking NRC are thus warmed-over entry-level radios missing the vitality of focus where the hash has been stripped away from voice despite their greater number of functions/abilities as radios.
— The argument being made is to try to get across the fundamental nature of the change via NRC, not to criticize the choices of others, per se.
IOW, I’d rather have the cheapest NRC AM-only radio versus an AT-6666 or Lincoln while on the road. External DSP device changes that equation in favor of those radios.
The better the mobile antenna system the more this becomes obvious.
— I’ve said before and will again that one builds his mobile Citizen Band rig to overcome the deficiencies of the radio rigs of other men.
To Hear, and Get Heard, means that when one receives timely information on road conditions he repeats that information back for confirmation such that others around him also hear it. In turn those locals who didn’t hear the original — the more frequent travelers of this road with average or below average radios — help come up with definitions & solutions.
In same wise, one ups the banter around road-going anomalies such that some are reminded to inform the rest of y’all of a problem out ahead now far behind them.
Yesterdays fun was the dreaded Amazon Prime driver running 70+ with an unsecured trailer door flapping. Maybe that’s how they air ‘em out back where he came from. Major faux pas in the U.S., however.
Being possessed of excellent ears, one is central to the fun. Others are relying on you whether you know it or not. (That trailer door represents a true hazard). As we hit the rain at the same time you can bet everyone wanted description & location of the hazard. Making light of it is par for the course.
Seeing him get pulled into the scale house despite being empty was the cherry on top.
Driving any vehicle is taxing.
Best radio system eases the burden.
NRC (DSP) forever changes the game.
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slowmover
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The DX-86v is just one of many radios I own now sorta obsolete. Right size, right features for AM-19 road performance. Great audio at the other end as with all Galaxy radios. Best antenna system = it gets responses.
It’s not enough to be heard. It’s in getting responses.
Paired up with a Astatic 636L mic and the W-M speaker it’s a performer. But that $600 isn’t the performance of the $250 Q5 + $50 DX-901 speaker (the stock mic is GTG).
Substitute any non-NRC radio to suit, and the result doesn’t change despite “better” features or performance on a line-by-line comparison.
One can have an AM/SSB NRC-integrated radio at a surprisingly low price ($199). There’s pretty well no need for a tech to adjust unless desired, as it’s software not hardware manipulation:
Radioddity QT40 10 Meter Radio | 40W | FM/AM/SSB/PA | CTCSS/DCS | Weat
The Radioddity QT40 is a powerful 10-meter ham radio with advanced noise reduction for clear audio function. It supports FM, AM, USB, LSB, and PA modes, and has a 40W output for long-distance communication. Built with high-quality components, it offers reliable performance. More potential are...
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— As I see it $250-$300 gets a man the performance he needs given the systems install is right-on. Not $600 and up.
He’ll spend as he will. $$ aren’t the only reasons for choices. Non-NRC just makes it a longer slog towards comparable (but not equal) satisfaction.
— The problem of mobile is distinctly in packaging the assemblies to fit the vehicle. It ain’t plug & play and it ain’t maintenance-free. (To the extent simplicity can be had is why this path is my recommendation).
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If size is a determining factor, I would go with the Anytone 6666. It has a bit more power than the Lincoln 2 and needs no "golden screwdriver" action on it "innards" to convert to 11 meter. Many are using the Quad 6 straight out of the box and enjoying great results. Can be found on Amazon, Ebay and other online retailers.
Regarding Walcott Radio........they are an excellent place to buy radio equipment, but don't let them put their "fat fingers" inside your radio! They have a less than stellar reputation for tech work. I also highly recommend the WM DSP speaker!
https://www.amazon.com/AnyTone-AT-6...mzn1.fos.c3015c4a-46bb-44b9-81a4-dc28e6d374b3
JD
Thanks. Ended up receiving the Lincoln the other day and did the conversion. Pretty happy with how it’s performing out of the box.
slowmover
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It’s an excellent radio, no question. Expense of adding DSP is what hurts.
DeeEx
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If you’re watching closely and are fast enough to reply, there are loads of great deals on the QRZ swap forum, that’s how I’ve scored several DSP units.
slowmover
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Changed antenna mount on the FTL for one that’s more upright now that I’ve the SIRIO 3/8 Trucker on a 44” shaft (82” total at present; near to 14’ clearance).
The shaft gets coil high enough to reduce problems of Reflect; angle-of-forward-lean with aftermarket antenna installations you’ll see on some big trucks is the effort to get usable SWR readings.
This is far less than the dim bulb “bull horns” look some think is cool with a 30-40/degree tilt.
Now at 11-12/degrees versus 19-20/degrees (which is maximum tilt advised before performance degrades).
Sitting in SE New Mexico parked parallel 8’ from a stucco/lath building with antenna alongside . . and still traded QSO on AM-20 with a New Hampshire station during initial SWR test. (1.4:1).
Skip quite strong this morning.
1,900-miles.
AT5555-N2 for the win.
It’ll take all the mobile antenna design & install quality you can throw at it.
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The shaft gets coil high enough to reduce problems of Reflect; angle-of-forward-lean with aftermarket antenna installations you’ll see on some big trucks is the effort to get usable SWR readings.
This is far less than the dim bulb “bull horns” look some think is cool with a 30-40/degree tilt.
Now at 11-12/degrees versus 19-20/degrees (which is maximum tilt advised before performance degrades).
Sitting in SE New Mexico parked parallel 8’ from a stucco/lath building with antenna alongside . . and still traded QSO on AM-20 with a New Hampshire station during initial SWR test. (1.4:1).
Skip quite strong this morning.
1,900-miles.
AT5555-N2 for the win.
It’ll take all the mobile antenna design & install quality you can throw at it.
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The band has definitely been active the past couple of days. Turned it on this evening and a lot of channels had activity. Brought back memories of the activity levels of the 90's.
slowmover
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2023 ain’t over yet. 4W AM with what looks like nearly all the Q5/Ares features in a smaller package and the promise of PRESIDENT-brand quality.
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President George II
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A separate thread re Best mobile radio choice.
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slowmover
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AT5555-N2 Mic Choices
I’ve tried a fair number of microphones (6) and the stock still sounds best.
Except for the Uniden BC645 (Bells, Bobs or Walcott among other vendors).
Noise canceling is what’s at stake while mobile. In which case one can’t go wrong with an Astatic 636L (any truckstop).
One can use TX NRC on the Q5 to tailor outgoing audio. You’ll want someone at other end as you drive around with windows open to then stop, change settings, and get back up to highway speed. (Any mic chosen).
Try both dynamic & electret mics for audio and/or noise-canceling.
— No real need to change stock mic (electret).
— Noise-Cancel is the area of investigation (usually dynamic-type).
Sitting still on hilltop to work Sideband?
Use stock mic.
On road at 70-MPH?
Use noise canceling.
Remember:
Talkback feature does not offer audio as it is heard by others.
If you’ve a second radio & speaker to set either a ways away or can use headphones, that’ll also work till on-road.
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I’ve tried a fair number of microphones (6) and the stock still sounds best.
Except for the Uniden BC645 (Bells, Bobs or Walcott among other vendors).
Noise canceling is what’s at stake while mobile. In which case one can’t go wrong with an Astatic 636L (any truckstop).
One can use TX NRC on the Q5 to tailor outgoing audio. You’ll want someone at other end as you drive around with windows open to then stop, change settings, and get back up to highway speed. (Any mic chosen).
Try both dynamic & electret mics for audio and/or noise-canceling.
— No real need to change stock mic (electret).
— Noise-Cancel is the area of investigation (usually dynamic-type).
Sitting still on hilltop to work Sideband?
Use stock mic.
On road at 70-MPH?
Use noise canceling.
Remember:
Talkback feature does not offer audio as it is heard by others.
If you’ve a second radio & speaker to set either a ways away or can use headphones, that’ll also work till on-road.
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slowmover
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Changed to dual antennas yesterday (what truckers call co-phase though it’s more accurately called phased).
Emphasis on RX/TX ahead & behind versus wider radius.
The Anytone at radio stack center is just that much better again I found. (Quieter RX).
Latest few posts in below. Thread is to define problem in mobile radio, and what remedies avail.
forums.radioreference.com
RF Bond work back underway.
The Q5 responds better to the detailed install work than any radio I’ve previously had in use. From Uniden 880 to President Lincoln II+ or from my collection of Galaxy.
Doesn’t matter what I’ve thrown at it. It chews, swallows, and grows bigger.
My desire is to always run wide open in Squelch & RF Gain for maximum signal capture. I work towards that end.
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Emphasis on RX/TX ahead & behind versus wider radius.
The Anytone at radio stack center is just that much better again I found. (Quieter RX).
Latest few posts in below. Thread is to define problem in mobile radio, and what remedies avail.
SKIP Problems in Noise Abatement.
The discourtesy of screwing up AM-19. The understood Truckers Channel. Got 39 to 119 other channels before we consider freeband. The thread is not to whine and moan, but to introduce others new to CB how to deal with Skip overwhelming local comms. The exigencies of the road. Your experience...
RF Bond work back underway.
The Q5 responds better to the detailed install work than any radio I’ve previously had in use. From Uniden 880 to President Lincoln II+ or from my collection of Galaxy.
Doesn’t matter what I’ve thrown at it. It chews, swallows, and grows bigger.
My desire is to always run wide open in Squelch & RF Gain for maximum signal capture. I work towards that end.
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slowmover
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Software Overview
Almost all of what’s shown is accessed thru front panel MENU.
Almost all of what’s shown is accessed thru front panel MENU.
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slowmover
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I always like Eric’s videos (Farpoint Farms) as he’s a decent baseline for the radio beginner then to those who can read past what’s said:
Whether one uses software to set up (or hires it out), one needn’t get into menu functions while underway. What’s important is pre-set. After that it’s the usual RFG & SQ + Volume from dial controls.
This radio is a re-badge of the AT5555-N2.
Order (200) and they’ll do it for you.
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Whether one uses software to set up (or hires it out), one needn’t get into menu functions while underway. What’s important is pre-set. After that it’s the usual RFG & SQ + Volume from dial controls.
This radio is a re-badge of the AT5555-N2.
Order (200) and they’ll do it for you.
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