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gbowne1

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Working on that N_Jay. I've seen some pretty neat stuff like oscilloscopes & mp3 players built using those two chips.
 
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Working on that N_Jay. I've seen some pretty neat stuff like oscilloscopes & mp3 players built using those two chips.

And all that is fairly meaningless in this regard.


I will tell you right now that the product being asked for is one with almost no market.

You must be very careful when using open inputs from existing product users in product definition. The resulting product definition will be like the largest Swiss army knife. It has everything, but no one buys it.

You need to get away from features and focus on use cases and enabling attributes.

Then look at existing alternative products and how there attributes serve or don't serve the use cases.

Now map out how your product is differentiated from the alternatives by better filling the use cases while not including attributes that will cause it to exceed the desired price point. (probably not significantly above the existing top of the line products (no matter how many people "SAY" they will pay twice that amount).
 

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Like this one Jay?
 

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I just thought of something. Would it be possible to have a built in hard drive or a removeable memory system that is capable of recording what is heard on the scanner? Then be able to hook it up to the computer and be able to save it and use it. Have it though so it will record only certain channels. That would be amazing.
 

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Here's something I would love to see:

- Find a way to eliminate the coax run for a outside antenna set up. Maybe some kind of bluetooth or wireless g link?
 
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I just thought of something. Would it be possible to have a built in hard drive or a removeable memory system that is capable of recording what is heard on the scanner? Then be able to hook it up to the computer and be able to save it and use it. Have it though so it will record only certain channels. That would be amazing.


As they say: "Anything is possible, how much is it worth to you?"
 
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Here's something I would love to see:

- Find a way to eliminate the coax run for a outside antenna set up. Maybe some kind of bluetooth or wireless g link?

As just said, anything is possible.

You would just put the the RF, IF and a good part of the baseband decoding up at the antenna and the "scanner" would simply be a remote control unit.

What is a worth to you?
 

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I don't know if it had been mentioned before but connection through TCP/IP with a web interface for programming and also for monitoring. Also, a 19" formfactor for mounting in a standard network rack.

Most of my radios are too far away for connecting through a serial port and this would be a fantastic feature for mounting in my computer room.
 

signguy10

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Here's something I would love to see:

- Find a way to eliminate the coax run for a outside antenna set up. Maybe some kind of bluetooth or wireless g link?

Thats a great idea, but then you would have to modify the antennas and receivers with adapters or have it built in for it to work.
 

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And all that is fairly meaningless in this regard.


I will tell you right now that the product being asked for is one with almost no market.

You must be very careful when using open inputs from existing product users in product definition. The resulting product definition will be like the largest Swiss army knife. It has everything, but no one buys it.

You need to get away from features and focus on use cases and enabling attributes.

Then look at existing alternative products and how there attributes serve or don't serve the use cases.

Now map out how your product is differentiated from the alternatives by better filling the use cases while not including attributes that will cause it to exceed the desired price point. (probably not significantly above the existing top of the line products (no matter how many people "SAY" they will pay twice that amount).

Either the stars are all aligning or I'm finally getting poisoned by some of the drugs here at work, but N_Jay is making some very salient points here.

I read the design white paper a little while back and I didn't see much in the proposal(I know, not final) that my PSR-500 won't already do(or at least what I want it to do). I remain open minded and optimistic about your(gbowne1) project, but like N_Jay is saying, I think it needs less focus on features(of which a myriad of suggestions have been made here) and more on "use cases and enabling attributes." What sets this scanner apart from existing products? It might be a cool thing to use standard removable memory cards on this scanner, but I'm not going to buy it just because of this and other bells and whistles. Now, if this scanner will track trunking systems or decode digital voice modes that current scanners cannot, I'm going to seriously considering purchasing a unit.

This is just my (shared)opinion, but then again, my opinion decides what I end up buying.
 
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Either the stars are all aligning or I'm finally getting poisoned by some of the drugs here at work, but N_Jay is making some very salient points here.

I read the design white paper a little while back and I didn't see much in the proposal(I know, not final) that my PSR-500 won't already do(or at least what I want it to do).


Did I miss a white paper on this idea?
 
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No. You didn't miss a thing. It was a rough draft of a vague outline for a whitepaper.

LOL, OK

Well maybe our good friend should read a few good books on product development and product management.
 

gbowne1

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I've noticed a few of you have been tossing around ideas that my/our project might not work. The witepaper was a simple one I tossed together.. it was NOT intended to be the final version. I just needed to nail down some basics..

I've been working with a RR.com member, Mike_GD, from Post #68 of discussing features, etc. When we get our focus narrowed down some there will be a new version of the whitepaper.

Anyone wish to help out development and testing? Please email me. I need some more team members.

Greg
 

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I'm currently predicting that the scanner will use the following one of the band plans in the 25-1300MHZ segment. NOTE: This is a TENTATIVE band plan.

Here is one plan:

29 - 54 MHz ; 108.00 - 136.975 MHz ; 137 - 174 MHz ; 406 - 512MHz ; 806 - 823.9375 MHz ; 851 - 868.9375 MHz ; 896.1125 - 956MHz

I'll figure out what the other plan might be.

Greg
 

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I just thought of something. Would it be possible to have a built in hard drive or a removeable memory system that is capable of recording what is heard on the scanner? Then be able to hook it up to the computer and be able to save it and use it. Have it though so it will record only certain channels. That would be amazing.
Here's something I would love to see:

- Find a way to eliminate the coax run for a outside antenna set up. Maybe some kind of bluetooth or wireless g link?

I really like both of these ideas!
 
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