Anytone/Hytera Encryption compatibility

[Despair_Bloom]

Hello, I have some issues with received encrypted voice with my Anytone AT-878UV Plus and Hytera Handhelds, which operate at Basic encryption type, 10 characters length. The result I get that via repeater mode, Hytera receives my encrypted voice well and on my Anytone the only thing I get is some gibberish. These are the parametres:

 

[G0NMY]

Maybe the fact that it says digital encryption is set to off ?

 

[Despair_Bloom]

Maybe the fact that it says digital encryption is set to off ?

This option relates to 4-character encryption type. As I said before other radios may read my speech clearly. From this I may conclude that my Anytone sends correct key, but it doesn't recognize key on RX.

 

[Despair_Bloom]

I figured out that my radio Firmware and CPS version have not been matched, so I fixed it. But now other does not even read me at all

 

[Despair_Bloom]

Solution lied within other Hytera radios. The encryption type was set to "Basic" instead of "Full" basically depriving them of AES encryption. So I think they are incompatibile with Anytone for now

 

[Mogley]

alright I'm curious. Since when do these Chinese radios do AES??

 

[Despair_Bloom]

alright I'm curious. Since when do these Chinese radios do AES??

Since Like 2020 or smth. I am new to this thread.

 

[kayn1n32008]

alright I'm curious. Since when do these Chinese radios do AES??

The Anytone has been capable of AES256 for some time. I want to say at least 2 years. It's implemented entirely in software.

 

[Forts]

Full encrypt on Hytera is ARC4, not AES. If you require AES it's a paid add-on.

 

[Mogley]

Full encrypt on Hytera is ARC4, not AES. If you require AES it's a paid add-on.

gotchya thanks

 

[Forts]

.....but that being said, the Anytone can do ARC4 as well. So that's an option.

 

[Despair_Bloom]

.....but that being said, the Anytone can do ARC4 as well. So that's an option.

So am I right to conclude that Anytone cannot be paired with Hytera basic privacy?

 

[Forts]

That would be correct.

 

[Despair_Bloom]

Is it really no way to do so? Cmon, It literally says "Basic". How on earth is it possible to integrate advanced encryption without having an ability to send primitive codes?

I mean, that ones which will apply to Hytera radios.

 

[RaleighGuy]

So many questions reading this thread, to start when did Anytone and Hytera become commercial/prfessional radios, rather than budget/entry level radios? Also curious about the frequencies shown on the image in post #1. Are you really using a commercial frequency with an amateur frequency, with a 10 MHz difference? And, if the top frequency is in error, I did not think encryption was allowed on the ham band?

I'll assume for sake of discussion that all parties do have proper licenses for the band being used.

 

[Forts]

Why doesn't it work? Because it's proprietary to Hytera. Same reason MotoTRBO Basic Privacy only works with other Motorola radios. Proprietary.

Things like AES and ARC4/ADP are shared open standards.

 

[KevinC]

So many questions reading this thread, to start when did Anytone and Hytera become commercial/prfessional radios, rather than budget/entry level radios? Also curious about the frequencies shown on the image in post #1. Are you really using a commercial frequency with an amateur frequency, with a 10 MHz difference? And, if the top frequency is in error, I did not think encryption was allowed on the ham band?

I'll assume for sake of discussion that all parties do have proper licenses for the band being used.

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Keep in mind the OP may not be in the US or even NA.

 

[Despair_Bloom]

Keep in mind the OP may not be in the US or even NA.

It just would be inresponsible for me to tell country where It goes, if you know what I mean

 

[jimmy9999]

if you are looking for a cheap radio with no license fees, which supports the Motorola AES-256 (and the ARC4). there is the TYT UV-MD390 PLUS (be careful, you need the PLUS, not the normal one).

TYT MD-UV390 Plus Waterproof Dual Band DMR Digital Two Way Radio

Take your digital two way communications outdoors on two bands with the TYT MD-UV390 Plus Waterproof DMR Digital Portable Two Way Radio!

www.buytwowayradios.com

it works 100% with Anytone and Motorola in ARC4 and AES-256.

 

[Forts]

Did not know that. Thanks!