BCD536HP - Remote Control over Internet?

[shiggs68]

IP address 10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255 is for local networks or private intranets so shouldn't be a problem.

Also Port Forwarding is not a problem with ProScan despite using the BCD536HP Wi-Fi. I've seen only one other port forwarding problem with ProScan and in that instance, the user was configuring the wrong router.

{edit} Sorry, Don't really want to correct but it's needed in public forums so others will have better info. Wi-Fi audio doesn't use RTTP. It uses RTSP / RTP G.711 MU Law

Like I said, I didn’t have my previous data available. Sorry for the mis-spoken RTSP protocol. RTSP is still a dynamic assignment making it difficult to port forward.

And the mis-understanding on the 10.x.x.x Class A range.

Point is the external IP assigned address must be used and port forwarded to the internal private network address of the ProScan software to allow access outside the local network.


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[buddrousa]

You can make your 536's static address by going into the router and assigning the IP's to the scanners mac address that way the scanner is always the same address I have run both of my 536's like this from day one.

 

[ProScan]

RTSP is still a dynamic assignment making it difficult to port forward.

Perhaps but RTSP is between the scanner and ProScan so it has nothing to do with using Browsers on the outside talking to the ProScan Web Server on the inside so Port Forwarding is not a problem. Here is my on-line 536 using Wi-Fi. I'm able to Port Forward.
http://47.148.181.76:5003/

Point is the external IP assigned address must be used and port forwarded to the internal private network address of the ProScan software to allow access outside the local network.

I disagree on assigning an external IP. The Router firmware handles that so users don't need to. All that is needed for Port Forwarding to work is the internal IP address of the server machine, server port number, & TCP.

 

[shiggs68]

Perhaps but RTSP is between the scanner and ProScan so it has nothing to do with using Browsers on the outside talking to the ProScan Server on the inside so Port Forwarding is not a problem. Here is my on-line 536 using Wi-Fi. I'm able to Port Forward.

http://47.148.181.76:5003/





I disagree on assigning an external IP. The Router firmware handles that so user doesn't need to. All that is needed for Port Forwarding to work is the internal IP address of the server machine, server port number, & TCP.

Apparently there is some confusion in what I have tried to explain.

Yes, the local router handles the mapping of the external address to the local addresses. In your example, your 47.148.181.76 address is an external address assigned to your router by your ISP, frontier communications, ref; https://db-ip.com/47.148.181.76.

That external address and port is mapped to the local network which is mapped in the 10.x.x.x range. The 10.x.x.x address is not available to the external world.

On a side note. I have used Termviewer to control my home desktop running ProScan. However, at the time I was doing this, I don’t believe you had released the Remote version yet. Thus, I have never used your software in the configuration. What protocols are being used to allow the easy access externally? I could set it up and use WireShark but asking the source is easier.

In my opinion, ProScan is first class and you have accomplished a nice job.


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[ProScan]

What protocols are being used to allow the easy access externally? I could set it up and use WireShark but asking the source is easier.

ProScan Web Server is a Web Server so it uses HTTP over TCP just like any Web Server. In fact, that's the only protocol Web Browsers understands.

{edit} And the Web Page is HTML & JavaScript. The audio format is mp3.

In my opinion, ProScan is first class and you have accomplished a nice job.

Much appreciated, Thank You

Apparently there is some confusion in what I have tried to explain.

Yes, the local router handles the mapping of the external address to the local addresses. In your example, your 47.148.181.76 address is an external address assigned to your router by your ISP, frontier communications, ref; https://db-ip.com/47.148.181.76.

That external address and port is mapped to the local network which is mapped in the 10.x.x.x range. The 10.x.x.x address is not available to the external world.

Understand, Got it now

 

[shiggs68]

ProScan Web Server is a Web Server so it uses HTTP over TCP just like any Web Server. In fact, that's the only protocol Web Browsers understands.

{edit} And the Web Page is HTML & JavaScript. The audio format is mp3.

Much appreciated, Thank You

Thanks and I still have not had enough coffee as I should have know that being it’s a web server.

Again, being a retired developer myself for 45 years, it’s always amazing to see well done packages accomplished by people as yourself and at a reasonable price. I know the effort.


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[flubber2007]

I still haven’t figured it out. Now I have a problem when radiofeed lock up and freezes it kicks the scanner feed off and then I have to restart computer to get it working. I went back to scannercast see if there is any difference in connection even though radiofeed is much preferred!


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[NYRHKY94]

flubber2007:

Apologies if this question has already been asked. What is it exactly you are trying to do with your BCD536HP and Proscan? Is it how to configure the "Web Server" in Proscan so that you can access & remotely control your scanner from the outside? Or is it something else...

Thanks

 

[flubber2007]

Well I just found out about radiofeed/ProScan. When I was trialing ProScan I was trying to setup up where I could get to it externally by listening/ and or being able to change something by using the password on the page. I setup a static IP through the router and have it port forwarding but still can’t get it to work. Checked antivirus and it is not blocking radiofeed or ProScan. So I went back to radiofeed, but now radiofeed program will freeze and disconnect from broadcasting. T


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[NYRHKY94]

OK, thanks. If you still have time left on your 30-day trial, you can indeed use Proscan to accomplish what you are looking for. One way to do this is to use the Web Server feature to listen to "and" remotely control your 536 from the outside using a web browser on a PC, Tablet, Phone etc. The picture below is my 536 on an iPhone for example. I set-up my 536 using Wifi in Proscan as the audio is much better than when using cables. As Bob, Jon and others have noted here, you will need to properly configure port forwarding in your Netgear Router to access the 536 from the outside. To do that you need the IP address assigned to the PC that you have Proscan running on "and" the IP address your ISP has provided. Both of these IP addresses can easily be obtained by clicking on the "Get My IP" button on the lower right hand side of the Procan Web Server tab.

 

[NYRHKY94]

flubber2007:

NOTE: You can also accomplish the same thing (listen and control your 536 from the outside) using the RSOIP (Remote Scanner Over IP) feature in Proscan. This method involves running Proscan in "server mode" on a PC in your home and then you would access it using the "Proscan Client" (audio only) and/or another instance of the full Proscan Server (audio & remote control) on a PC (not a tablet or phone). Correct port forwarding set-up is also required for this method.

 

[buddrousa]

On most Internet connections you can not reach your scanner using your outside public IP address. When at home you have to use your local IP ADDRESS.

 

[NYRHKY94]

Never been an issue for me? Have done this with Comcast/Xfinity/Time Warner/Spectrum. When accessing the scanner from the outside, you use the WAN IP assigned by the ISP, followed by a colon and the port number that you are forwarding to the PC on your local network that has Proscan running on it. As long as the port forwarding is set-up properly, it will connect (as shown in my picture above).

EDIT: To clarify, my example above is for connecting to the scanner from outside the home network.

 

[buddrousa]

Not all IP providers allow this consider yourself lucky as I have CHARTER and can not do it and I am very network savvy. I also build high end IP VIDEO NETWORKS on my days off from the Fire Department. One network I manage has 100 5MP IP cameras with a constant 500MB of data 24/7.

 

[ProScan]

Charter is now Spectrum. buddrousa, I can say first hand that Spectrum does not block most ports. Just a few like the common Web Server ports 80 & 443. Are you behind a Proxy? Have you checked with the ISP to see if they have a misconfiguration?

flubber2007, Regarding the problem with the Web Server not seen from the outside, who is your ISP?

 

[ProScan]

NYRHKY94, What Browser are you using. I see the HTML5 player not positioned correctly.

 

[buddrousa]

Bob I may have not been understood. With CHARTER I can not be in my house and put in my charter address and see my scanners but from outside my house I can put in my charter address and see my scanners. At home I use my HOME PRIVATE IP ADDRESS away from home I use my CHARTER ADDRESS it is like that at every customer I have that has charter. I do not have a problem using my equipment I have. It also may be a loopback problem with the type routers I use (Mikro Tik).

 

[ProScan]

At home I use my HOME PRIVATE IP ADDRESS away from home I use my CHARTER ADDRESS it is like that at every customer I have that has charter.

Okay, that's how it suppose to work. the public IP address is used for accessing the server from outside the local network. That's what we been talking about the whole time. Perhaps you didn't understand the original problem with http://www.canyouseeme.org/ not seeing the server port. That's still not resolved and don't know why not working. Perhaps flubber2007 has a internet security program blocking the connection.

 

[NYRHKY94]

Hi Bob:

The picture above showing the Proscan Web Server is a screen grab from my iPhone. I was using the Safari browser on the phone. Hope that is helpful.

NOTE: The reason I suggested that flubber2007 click on the "Get My IP" button on the Proscan Web Server page, is I'm not quite sure he is forwarding the correct IP in his Netgear router configuration.

Mike

 

[flubber2007]

I have consolidated provider. The main internet line runs into a zhone router/modem and then connect to netgear router. The router login I was using was for the netgear. Do I need to login to the other one? All my Ethernet cables go to zhone and I assume netgear is just an extension router?


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