Just got home and checked out my SDS recording and Unitrunker data from today. Seems Onondaga Fire Control Talkgroup "1' and Onondaga EMS Dispatch Talkgroup "7" are patched into the Western Broome Simulcast. Plenty of activity to monitor. Confirms successful tie to the core/master site. I would assume this is being done as part of evaluation of quality of reception rather than depending on tones or innumerable test counts.
Broome County P25 Phase II TRS
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Man now I am going to have to set my 536 up on my outside antenna and see if I can get anything LOL. As the small antenna on my USB sticks are not getting anything and I have a a pretty clear shot south to Broome county from where I live. I did try to setup Unitrunker on a USB stick that is tied to an antenna on my roof that I am using for a NOAA station and did not get a signal, so I still may be out on getting this one. I can't get Tompkins either so go figure....
At this point I don't know how many of the subsites are active. I definitely heard the techs mention Old State and Ely Park which are the two sites closest to the 911 Center. I am pretty sure the Andrews Rd site in Vestal is not online yet. I am staring at the tower now just 0.7 miles away but when I unscrew the SDS 100 antenna I completely lose reception of the control channel while other transmitters at the site activate CloseCall and are receivable without the antenna on the handheld or 996XT. You should be fine once the site at Popple Hill Road comes online.
Hmm, shows a different username hosting all of the CNYICC Calls nodes...wasn't aware that was you.
Just Cortland County. I don't have the others and what confuses me is when the Cortland system was intruduced before being built, it was supposed to be part of the CNYICC system but after it was operational, it was not part of the bigger system. I've talked to a dispatcher here and they can talk to adjacent counties via a intercom type setup but that doesn't go over the air so you can listen as I have never heard them.Hmm, shows a different username hosting all of the CNYICC Calls nodes...wasn't aware that was you.
Started monitoring this new Broome system yesterday. I am located in Northern Broome County.
West control channel is weak but can decode. The East control channel (453.5875) is very strong at my location.
East site (7) info;
System ID: 2AE
WACN: BEE00
Site: 007
NAC 2A7
Got one hit so far ; TGID 27400 on 453.875.
The buses used to be on that frequency, I now hear them on 453.725
West control channel is weak but can decode. The East control channel (453.5875) is very strong at my location.
East site (7) info;
System ID: 2AE
WACN: BEE00
Site: 007
NAC 2A7
Got one hit so far ; TGID 27400 on 453.875.
The buses used to be on that frequency, I now hear them on 453.725
Old at scanning, but new at trunking, please excuse any terminology errors etc...!
If I may add one more thing....I forgot to thank and acknowledge "mshumeyk" for giving me tips and pointing me in the right direction regarding trunking and programming the SDS scanner.
This is what I was saying earlier in the thread. Seems quite odd to me and makes no sense.
CNYICC and the radio system should be considered separate. You can be a member of the group but not be part of the Onondaga radio system. Cortland County has its own Master site and has never been connected to the master site in Onondaga, note the different system IDs. The intercoms do go over the air as this is the only way to integrate Cortland and Lewis Counties. The intercoms are literally just talkgroups with a fancy name.
This was all explained by me in great detail in post #30 of this thread.
So the I-COM should be listenable (provided it's not encrypted) on either system or only if you can pick up one or the other's signal?
I wonder which of the TG's it would be... 🤔
I wonder which of the TG's it would be... 🤔
Not necessarily. If no subscribers are affiliated with the talkgroup(s) on either system, then nothing will go out over the air. You can have ISSI Talkgroup Mapping and Console Patching setup so that the resources exist on the consoles without any RF actually going out.
To specifically address the actual setup of the "intercoms" in this specific instance. The intercom talkgoups, as listed in the database, are a fulltime RF push across all RFSS in system 2AE. This was done to facilitate Lewis and Cortland participating in the intercom groups. Lewis and Cortland have control stations for those talkgroups attached to their consoles. You will not hear the intercoms on Cortland or Lewis's system as they are not patched and there would be no reason to patch them in as these are dispatch center to dispatch center communications only.
Don't overthink it...its pretty simple, just another talkgroup on 2AE that only dispatch centers have access too.
Don't overthink it...its pretty simple, just another talkgroup on 2AE that only dispatch centers have access too.
I see. That's why I wondered, as you originally stated just another TG, I figured you meant a receivable/scanable TG.
Actually site 007 is the Eastern Broome Simulcast site. It is online but I haven't had a chance to submit the information to the DB. My understanding is that Cortland is independent of the central core in Onondaga County. There is a diagram of the system showing this in the Jefferson County Powerpoint I had posted earlier in this thread.
The Broome Transit buses have always been on 453.725. The airport repeater was 453.875 but the new trunked system is on that frequency now.
Site 7 is the Broome Eastern portion. Site 8 is the Broome Western portion. There are currently 7 subsites active in western Broome, 1 subsite active in eastern Broome.
There will not be a Broome P25 site at Popple Hill.
However, "back in the day", Broome Transit -WAS- on 453.875
Found this archived page;
Wayback Broome Freqs
And WAY WAY back in the day, the Triple Cities Traction Corporation communicated with smoke signals!
(slightly before my time)
Found this archived page;
Wayback Broome Freqs
And WAY WAY back in the day, the Triple Cities Traction Corporation communicated with smoke signals!
(slightly before my time)
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