Can a Kenwood TK-5210 pick up the WYOLINK?

[N0WRE]

Been looking at getting TK-5210 but wanted to know if its going to pick up the state system? Can someone answer this before I spend the money?

Thanks

Dakota

 

[SkipSanders]

'Pick up'? Can it be programmed to receive the system? Presumably yes, as a VHF P25

Why bother, instead of just using a scanner?

You hopefully know that you aren't allowed to get a personal radio programmed to transmit on the system, no matter what agency you work for, unless you have permission of the agency, and they may have rules about what radios are allowed (if any) that may or may not include this one.

 

[N0WRE]

I am very well aware of not programming the radio for transmit, they are moving to the new system and I acquired a 5210 and wanted to listen to wyolink when they get it up and running. I am a ham as well and like to keep an ear on the public service for ARES/RACES up here.
Wasn’t quite sure if tit would be capable of receiving the P-25 as most of the radios I have seen are Motorola XTS5000 and the Kenwood might be different in the way it picks up the signal.

Just thought I would ask.
Dakota-N0WRE

'Pick up'? Can it be programmed to receive the system? Presumably yes, as a VHF P25

Why bother, instead of just using a scanner?

You hopefully know that you aren't allowed to get a personal radio programmed to transmit on the system, no matter what agency you work for, unless you have permission of the agency, and they may have rules about what radios are allowed (if any) that may or may not include this one.

 

[GOLDENDOME]

Probably not, use a radioshack Pro 96 or 2096 or wait for the GRE 500/600

 

[kd7gxu]

Kenwood

Been looking at getting TK-5210 but wanted to know if its going to pick up the state system? Can someone answer this before I spend the money?

Thanks

Dakota

Yes it will work on Wyolink if you get the 9600 baud trunking option. But you will need to have the system key loaded by WYDOT. I you are an authorized user then you will be able to have YOUR talkgroups added, but if you are wanting to scan get a Uniden or wait for one of the new GRE scanners. If you do get the Kenwood let me know how you like it. We got quotes for that radio but we decided to get XTS5000s for now because we already had some of the Motorolas. The Kenwoods were way cheaper. I used Kenwood TK630 lowbands back in the day and they were very nice radios.

 

[N0WRE]

So without the key scanning is pretty much out of the question? Rats Thanks for the information on that though it helps a lot to have someone familiar with the system to answer the questions I have. I already got a 5210, traded it for some gear that I don’t need and thought it was a good trade, I like it a lot and have been a fan of Kenwood as I own several TK-290, 390 and a 2180 that I use for work.

Thanks again for the information.

 

[kd7gxu]

scanning Wyolink

So without the key scanning is pretty much out of the question? Rats Thanks for the information on that though it helps a lot to have someone familiar with the system to answer the questions I have. I already got a 5210, traded it for some gear that I don’t need and thought it was a good trade, I like it a lot and have been a fan of Kenwood as I own several TK-290, 390 and a 2180 that I use for work.

Thanks again for the information.

Actually even if you have the key, scanning isn't allowed on Wyolink. That's how it is set up now anyway. The only way to scan it is with a scanner.

 

[N0WRE]

I take it that the system is set up to allow only one talk group per radio? I have heard that thet system was to be 9600 baud and that each department was to have access to each system? Im trying hard to understand how the agencies are supposed to talk to one another if they cant scan to find out whats going on for each agency. But thats just me. So when the new system goes online each agency has to go to a different talkgroup? Seems a bit strange as not the PD can talk to the SO and WHP can to and so on.

 

[n1das]

N0WRE DE N1DAS,

Hi, I was wondering how you like(d) the TK-5210 and how does it compare to radios like the Icom IC-F70DT and a Motorola XTS2500 or XTS5000.

How's the P25 receive audio quality?

Also, I started a thread in the All Others forum asking what owners think of the TK-5210 (VHF) and TK-5310 (UHF) portables.
http://www.radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84735

73,
N1DAS

 

[kd7gxu]

scanning

I take it that the system is set up to allow only one talk group per radio? I have heard that thet system was to be 9600 baud and that each department was to have access to each system? Im trying hard to understand how the agencies are supposed to talk to one another if they cant scan to find out whats going on for each agency. But thats just me. So when the new system goes online each agency has to go to a different talkgroup? Seems a bit strange as not the PD can talk to the SO and WHP can to and so on.

You can have multiple talkgroups, you just can't scan. The thought was that scanning causes too many affiliations and drags down the towers. You have to have permission of each talkgroup owner to have them put into your radio. I think that GRE and Uniden will sell a lot of scanners to fire departments here.

 

[WayneH]

You can have multiple talkgroups, you just can't scan. The thought was that scanning causes too many affiliations and drags down the towers.

You can't be serious? That is so far from the truth. Any radio that would do something like that has buggy firmware. When the XTS5000s were introduced they did that and caused serious CC overload. This is someone who should not be left to make decisions.

 

[kd7gxu]

what I heard

You can't be serious? That is so far from the truth. Any radio that would do something like that has buggy firmware. When the XTS5000s were introduced they did that and caused serious CC overload. This is someone who should not be left to make decisions.

I don't know who makes the decisions, thats just what I was told. They may change it in the future but that is how it is now. There has been almost no usage on the system yet, but last weekend ther was an excercise that used some talkgroups. Did anybody listen in? I don't think my pro96 will track it properly. I was using an XTS2500 during the excercise and it worked good.

 

[lavy]

In utah on the ucan multi county trunked system, scanning is a departmental decision. Some departments don't program any radios to scan, some have a predefined scan list, and some allow the user to set the scan list. The problem with the trunked system is that it doesn't scan like the old days of conventional systems. And the more tgid's in the scan list, the worse it does. There is no priority scan per say like the old days where it checked for the active prioity channel every 2 sec. I've had my motorola radio on scan with only 4 tgid's in scan mode and missed an entire dispatch before it locked on the tgid. Not very effective. And this is not just an occasional thing. This happened before with our department kenwood handhelds as well. Just not the same as the old days on conventional systems.

 

[WayneH]

There is no priority scan per say like the old days where it checked for the active prioity channel every 2 sec. I've had my motorola radio on scan with only 4 tgid's in scan mode and missed an entire dispatch before it locked on the tgid.

There is still priority scanning for both conventional and trunked. It sounds like the scan lists are not properly programmed.

 

[N0WRE]

I thought the officers were carrying the XTS-5000 from Motorola? Are they issuing XTS-2500 for non law enforcement now? Been trying to get some information on the system and it seems like they are getting closer but have not gotten it up and totally running. I have the scanner set up for the system but its kinda hard to carry a mobile scanner from the car on my belt. Im assuming that they will have to have the radios scan as there are several agencies on several groups right now that need to talk to each other. SO and PD are one that I can think of right off the top of my head along with WHP as they are all on the law channels talking to each other from what I hear right now. I bet there will be a way for them to have the radio scan so they can keep up with whats going on on another talkgroup in the system, otherwise whats the point of having interoperability?

 

[N0WRE]

Found this on a wyolink scanning search on google:
wyolink.state.wy.us/pdf/WyoLink%20Status%20Report%2020July05.pdf
So scanning IS going to be allowed on the system when its up and running in full.