CFD Apparatus status discussion (Non-Radio Information)

[RP201]

Ya, so Calgary Fire was running Engine-HazMat 70. This was a 2010 engine that ran a crew of 4, all HazMat trained firefighters. Then HazMat 70 ran two ff's, and was basically a normal HazMat.

Heavy Rescue-Engine 70. 2007 Spare Rescue that ran a crew of 4. Similar to the TR at 10 and 11, but it ran a Captain instead of a Lieutenant.

Then there’s Pod 2 with the TRT Pod, just one singular ff. There’s WPC-DC7-0. So instead of being North/east/core it was WPC. Then it was DC7-0 because it is the 7th DC in service, but part of the 70 Task Force.

Special events unit was called Rapid Response 70, ran a crew of 4 and was designed to be first due unit to any event. They (along with the DC) were staged on the Stampede Grounds. Then the MCI truck was parked at Westwinds with CPS major command area

What is a Heavy Rescue - Engine running a spare Rescue?

Great post!

 

[RP201]

Most likely. It will be interesting to see where the HazMat 17 will go. 21 is a possibility. Cram it into the 3rd bay along with DC4 since it's moving there next year. Or fill DC4's spot at 40 with Tender 21. There is a lot of grassland behind 40 and it has easy access to HWY 201. However I don't think 40 has the call amount to warrant the need for a secondary unit but time will tell what happens in the North. The new 17 Station is certainly going to shake up a few things and will definitely produce some interest results.


Perhaps they will just leave the POD out back. It's not exactly a vehicle. And it leave space for whatever support vehicle or EMS unit we might see one day.

I think POD's or containers could be strategically stashed throughout the city. The prime mover or POD truck will probably be staffed by a senior FF who will take direction from whoever is in command of an incident. The POD system, or point of distribution will be on initial alarms for collapses, trench rescues, maybe some technical rescues, or big hot Haz jobs that will require decon.

As for 17, it’s all purely speculation, but if a heavy rescue moves in, that means the Support, which means the Ladder is moving out. That will be three deep bays, and the two extra bays for AHS. With COVID making a comeback, I’d be surprised if CFD jammed halls full of staff.

 

[Calgary_Fire_Filmer]

What is a Heavy Rescue - Engine running a spare Rescue?

Great post!

Exactly. The truck is a Rescue, the crew is an Engine crew

 

[RP201]

Exactly. The truck is a Rescue, the crew is an Engine crew

Thanks good sir.

 

[255-Jacobs]

I think POD's or containers could be strategically stashed throughout the city. The prime mover or POD truck will probably be staffed by a senior FF who will take direction from whoever is in command of an incident. The POD system, or point of distribution will be on initial alarms for collapses, trench rescues, maybe some technical rescues, or big hot Haz jobs that will require decon.

As for 17, it’s all purely speculation, but if a heavy rescue moves in, that means the Support, which means the Ladder is moving out. That will be three deep bays, and the two extra bays for AHS. With COVID making a comeback, I’d be surprised if CFD jammed halls full of staff.

If that were to occur. Where do y'all think 17L will move to? 18 maybe?

 

[Calgary_Fire_Filmer]

If that were to occur. Where do y'all think 17L will move to? 18 maybe?

Probably not 18. Think about 15,17,28 and part of 21. Those need coverage by 17L. If it were to be moved from 17, I think 28 is the only possible answer. I would rather see TW31 and BB31 move to 18

 

[255-Jacobs]

28 would make sense. Can they fit one in there though? 28 looks pretty small. Maybe move the Tender elsewhere and put it at 21? Still has easy access to Crowchild.

 

[ENGINE_4]

Ya, so Calgary Fire was running Engine-HazMat 70. This was a 2010 engine that ran a crew of 4, all HazMat trained firefighters. Then HazMat 70 ran two ff's, and was basically a normal HazMat.

Heavy Rescue-Engine 70. 2007 Spare Rescue that ran a crew of 4. Similar to the TR at 10 and 11, but it ran a Captain instead of a Lieutenant.

Then there’s Pod 2 with the TRT Pod, just one singular ff. There’s WPC-DC7-0. So instead of being North/east/core it was WPC. Then it was DC7-0 because it is the 7th DC in service, but part of the 70 Task Force.

Special events unit was called Rapid Response 70, ran a crew of 4 and was designed to be first due unit to any event. They (along with the DC) were staged on the Stampede Grounds. Then the MCI truck was parked at Westwinds with CPS major command area

Thank you for the info! MCI unit is that the SVI trucks Command Unit or does CFD have a Mass Casualty Unit?

 

[RP201]

After looking at the map, 10 is probably the best location for the Rescue. They have good east-west movement and Crowchild is right there. The rig can get downtown easily. To balance the coverage, 16 is a better location for the south with easy access to downtown, Blackfoot out to Deerfoot.

If CFD sticks with 2, then that would work. However, it’s been suggested that CFD may go with three Rescues. Then my money is on 39 in the south, 18 in the north and 2 in the downtown. This of course means kicking the High Rise and Parkade out of 2 and the Haz out of 39. The Parkade is probably on its way out of the fleet and Haz 39 could go to 9.

But it’s all speculation.

 

[Calgary_Fire_Filmer]

Thank you for the info! MCI unit is that the SVI trucks Command Unit or does CFD have a Mass Casualty Unit?

Ya, that tricked me too. CFD's MCI is just Mobile Command [Incident]. Really it should be MCU. MCI sounds too much like Mass Casualty Incident, haha

28 would make sense. Can they fit one in there though? 28 looks pretty small. Maybe move the Tender elsewhere and put it at 21? Still has easy access to Crowchild.

I wouldn’t mind a Ladder at 21. It can fit it in 28, but 21 would work. Then 34L could move to 40 with the Tender, as 40 covers more grassland and county area then any other hall. Then move the BB/TW to 18

 

[255-Jacobs]

A Tender would be awesome at 40. IMO, 31BB should stay where it is instead of going back to 18. That way if a grass fire occurs in the grasslands behind 40, you get a BB there in less than 8 minutes. Or move 31BB to 40 and cross staff it with a Ladder. Works either way.

 

[255-Jacobs]

Hey lads. Does anyone know where the old De-con trailer is? I know it ran out of 30 and the truck that towed it is retired according to the Wiki. But does anyone know where the trailer is at if it still exists? I was thinking it's either at Fleet, so 4 can grab it, or it's tucked away at 16 Station.

 

[ENGINE_4]

As far as I know it's gone. CFD has 2 Decon Pods and those are used for any decontamination needs

 

[255-Jacobs]

Forgot the Decon Pods existed 😂

 

[Calgary_Fire_Filmer]

Hey lads. Does anyone know where the old De-con trailer is? I know it ran out of 30 and the truck that towed it is retired according to the Wiki. But does anyone know where the trailer is at if it still exists? I was thinking it's either at Fleet, so 4 can grab it, or it's tucked away at 16 Station.

Ya it’s been gone for about 5 years haha! CFD is looking into a new Decon rig. Possibly it might even end up being a Pod

 

[ryan433pk]

CFD is selling the Bronto

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[255-Jacobs]

They've been up for sale since June, lol. Appreciated nonetheless. I wonder if anyone will actually buy those rust boxes? They've been a pain in the ass for CFD. They keep breaking down and cost a crap ton to maintain. Good luck selling it, CFD.

 

[RP201]

They will sell. Lots of FD's out there will see the potential. The amount of money spent to purchase, then upgrade, would be way cheaper than ordering a new Bronto.

 

[ENGINE_4]

Stoney Trail from the Trans-Canada Highway to Bow Trail is supposed to open tomorrow. This means Stations 29 and 35 will finally be connected with a faster response in those area's! Ladder 29 will probably be fielding some (more) calls in 35's

Some high quality updates to the "on order" section on Calgary FireWiki, based on Ladder delivery times and number ordered. It seems CFD will try and run the Rescues until the end of their life cycle.

 

[255-Jacobs]

Most likely. They are still fairly new, so tossing them out in a year would be a waste of money. CFD will most likely use them as much as possible before phasing them out with Ladders. Even when they get phased out, I'm sure a few will be kept around to be added to the spare pool.
Maybe one might replace A/L 4 and one to replace TRS 10. It will be interesting to see what happens to them. I'll be disappointed if CFD does trash them because that's a big waste of money.

Looking at the Wiki I did not know the FRP's were getting replaced but seeing as they are 2009 units, I'm not too shocked. I wonder if they are gonna be ambulances like the current ones or something similar to VFRS' rescues. Also didn't know the BT's were getting replaced as well. It looks like CFD is now trying to replace everything now that all the Engines (with the exception of 43) are replaced.

I seriously thought that CFD would wait until the Ladders get replaced first, but whatever floats their boat I guess. These next few years are gonna look insane. Also I believe E0910 (Ex Engine 38) is gone from the CFD fleet. The extent of the damage was beyond repair, IIRC.

I believe Calgary Fire Filmer has a photo of the old truck and it's pretty messed up. Does anyone know the extent of 18E's damage? It had to be somewhat serious for it to be OOS for almost 6 months now.