CFD Apparatus status discussion (Non-Radio Information)

[RP201]

I agree, I can see 3 getting a ladder and running into the core. Like mirror of 6 without the water stuff.

Just saw this on the news.

 

[ENGINE_4]

That is the meeting that kicked off CFD getting 200+ ff's, the Rescues getting converted to Ladders and 4 Ladder companies added to the fleet

 

[255-Jacobs]

I could see 38 and 3 getting a Ladder. With 38 it would depend on if 32 gets a Rescue and how/if/where a new permanent Station 27 plays out.

With regards to E4217, I don't remember anything about the incident. Do you have any pictures or info about the crash?

27 will get their new hall at 80th Ave and 36th St NE. There goes 31, 44, 18, and part of Deerfoot's rescue coverage. I have limited info on what happened to E4217. All I know is that it crashed due to driver error. I guess the damage must of been pretty serious if it has be gone for 7 months now. Hopefully Calgary Fire Filmer has some info from his last trip to fleet.

 

[ENGINE_4]

That is just down the street from 32 Station though. If E4217 has been gone for seven months already, it's probably gone forever. It would have just passed warranty before the crash, too. Interesting too see that CFD is trying to get more out of some of the 2010 Rosenbauer Engines before they go and are holding E4921 and E5021 back from front line service.

If the department is keeping up with the 10 year front line rule for Engines, they will have to start ordering new ones with in the next year or two to get them here by 2026

 

[ENGINE_4]

Yesterday during the city's budget deliberations, CFD asked for $3.4 M to add the second MRU unit into the fleet (Chief made it sound like it's going to Station 2 or added to Station 1. Either way it's going downtown) Interesting to see the yearly costs of operations, this will add 8 additional ff's to the rosters too

 

[255-Jacobs]

That is just down the street from 32 Station though. If E4217 has been gone for seven months already, it's probably gone forever. It would have just passed warranty before the crash, too. Interesting too see that CFD is trying to get more out of some of the 2010 Rosenbauer Engines before they go and are holding E4921 and E5021 back from front line service.

If the department is keeping up with the 10 year front line rule for Engines, they will have to start ordering new ones with in the next year or two to get them here by 2026

Guess 18 will be using a spare for a while then. Hopefully they can give one of those 2021 engines to 18. Pretty exciting to see a second MRU added to the core. If it goes to Station 1 think it become MRU 48? 😂

You make a good point about CFD having to order new engines. If CFD stays true to their 10 year cycle change than CFD will have to start ordering new engines soon. I wonder if they will stick with Spartan like they have for the last 20 years or if they will use the new found affair with Pierce for new engines. Maybe 1E might run a Pierce PUC one day. Either way it will be an interesting sight to see.

 

[ENGINE_4]

Tech Rescue Support 10 has been out of service for about a month or more, they have a rented box truck as a fill in truck right now. It has no lights or siren and can only fit two ff’s so if a call comes in for TRS 10, 10 Engine is going too

 

[RP201]

I thought I saw a picture of the box lifted off the chassis. Does this mean CFD is going to remount the box on a new chassis?

 

[255-Jacobs]

They will get their E-one chassis back. It's just being refurbished right now.

 

[ENGINE_4]

So the TRS can stay in service for another 10 years? Wow, one can only put so much paint on a pig. I imagine L0105 is getting referb'd as well. It's back sitting on the first bay at the shops

 

[Ghostpolice24]

I was informed L0105 is retired now

 

[RP201]

I could be wrong, but I highly doubt they’re going to spend the money on refurbishing a 2000 chassis. If they do, they’ve got serious problems.

 

[Calgary_Fire_Filmer]

L0105 is going into the spare pool. TRS 10 is being refurbished and being put back in service, eventually. E18 is a 2010, and is going to be for a while. Also, new RFP is out for engines and a apparatus committee is together to design some new ones. Quite possibly going to be Pierce too.

 

[ENGINE_4]

I wouldn't be surprised if they're doing a full refurb I mean CFD is running a 35 year old Tender as a front line truck. But the 2000 Rescue is literally sitting on pallets where they do pump testing at the shops, so how much of a "refurb" is this?

 

[255-Jacobs]

L0105 is going into the spare pool. TRS 10 is being referbed and being put back in service eventually. E18 is a 2010, and is going to be for a while. Also, new RFP is out for engines and a apparatus committee is together to design some new ones. Quite possibly going to be Pierce too.

So does that mean E4217 will return to 18 one day? It will be pretty cool to see what engines CFD will go with for the next cycle, most likely Pierce at this point if we have a 10 year aerial contract and new tenders in the works. I wonder if CFD will stick with the high roof design for the new engines, it's kind of a tradition 😂

 

[RP201]

So does that mean E4217 will return to 18 one day? It will be pretty cool to see what engines CFD will go with for the next cycle, most likely Pierce at this point if we have a 10 year aerial contract and new tenders in the works. I wonder if CFD will stick with the high roof design for the new engines, it's kind of a tradition 😂

It’s hard to say what course the CFD apparatus committee may follow. The argument for the enclosed pump panel is the weather.
Personally, it takes the pump operator out of the action. But if they are relay pumping and the engine is down the road pumping away and then the driver can sit in comfort and monitor the rig.

The offset remote control deck gun is another thing I think is cool, but a manual one over the pump house would probably work better. Less maintenance and if the first engine pulls up and a house is rolling, they could dump the monitor and probably knock down the bulk of the visible fire. This is not a common practice, but I’ve seen it in action and it works. So CFD has lots to think about.

 

[JABoomer]

I think the top-mount enclosed is actually the optimal use of space on an engine, keeping the driver out of the elements is an added benefit.

I know that apparatus design is largely driven by what's come before at each fire department. I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the committee meetings! Haha.

 

[JABoomer]

Regardless of Engine vendor, I'd keep the current style and 180" wheelbase. I'd move to a rescue style body, to get everything enclosed and to maximize the storage on top of the rig. Pump operator rear visibility would be blocked, so eliminate the rear facing windows. L1/R1 compartments would be hose hookups and crosslays, identical on each side. No rear connections, but a trash line in the front bumper. Move the deck gun behind the cab (electronic controls). Add a light tower.

 

[255-Jacobs]

If any of you gentlemen follow our friend Calgary Fire Filmer on IG you will find out that there has a been a rig change.

DC5 Station 4 -----> Station 32.

DC5 now runs out of 32 making it more NE in the city. AHS will be taking the 4th bay at Station 4 according to CFF.

 

[ENGINE_4]

Interesting that AHS will be taking the rear bay at Station 4. I wonder if AHS Station 4 (old CFD Station 4 across Deerfoot) is getting overcrowded or maybe they've stopped using it? I'll take a drive over there and see. So this is the first apparatus move, can't wait to see more!