slicerwizard
Member
And how would scanners know what descrambling parameters to use on a random TDMA channel?
Duke Energy P25 System
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The same way the software decoders do that are currently decoding these channels?
Yeah, but none of the scanners have had firmware updates in forever, and a scanner manufacturer is only going to support things that are in demand. There were no "known" active TDMA CC sites in existence as far as any scanner manufacturer is concerned, before this past month, so naturally they would not have support for it and nobody should expect it to have been supported all along. This is a pretty new thing we are seeing, even if it may have been in the spec sheets for a couple of years.
Software decoders do it [now] because developers busted their asses, and at least three put out updates to support it within the week. Prior to a week or two ago, no publicly available software app or common scanning device supported it.
BTT, DSDPlus, OP25 didn't know how to decode it until they added support. Scanners wouldn't know how to decode it because no scanner manufacturer has released an update to support it and thus no scanner has support for it.
Looks like my laptop needs to be updated to the new FW for DSDPlus when I go travel in 3 weeks. This means I have to stop a few places in each county which can be a pain since there is no side roads on hwy98 I can sit without cars zipping by me doing 60-90mph. Looks like I'll need to write down the locations of each site. Has anyone seen any TG popping up for testing?
I was answering the literal question, not the presupposed one.
As far as I know, the specs have been out for TDMA control channels since phase 2 was first introduced, so it's entirely within the realm of possibility that some company had implemented the entire thing. Not likely given how scanner manufacturers seem to work, but...
And I'm very aware of how hard the devs have been working to implement this, and it's awesome. I'm impressed it's happened so quickly.
To the folks sleuthing out OH/IN/KY (201 SYSID):
RRDB
91F14.201 Wiki
Google Map
- Sites 1, 6, 7, 10, 30, 57, 67 and 69 need confirmed by direct monitoring, gathering of alt CCs and peers
- Sites 2 and 52 need alt CCs
- Sites 57 and 63 need peers
RRDB
91F14.201 Wiki
Google Map
i apologize for slightly derailing this thread with the discussion on scanners and software solutions.
let's keep on track with just Duke for this thread.
regards,
doug
let's keep on track with just Duke for this thread.
regards,
doug
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I'm out gathering right now, will report back when finished.
Not quite. The Phase II TDMA spec was adopted in 2010, whereas the TDMA Control Channel spec wasn't adopted until 2017.
That's what I was wondering because I run the licensed frequencies in my area conventionally trying to get any signs of at least audio (like you would get from OpenSky)
Well that's good to know, helps explain why these are just now showing up. I had thought there was talk of the control channels possibly going to tdma when phase 2 started coming online, but didn't for backwards compatibility reasons.
i have not logged a single TG hit in florida - FYI.
slicerwizard
Member
You're conflating TDMA control channels with TDMA traffic channels.
CanesFan95
Analog already is interoperable.
Code:
Network: 91F14.2D7
Bandplan #0: Base=851.0125 Offset=-45 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5
Bandplan #8: Base=851.0125 Offset=-45 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5 Slots=2
Site: 1.1 NAC=001
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-9.9
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-14.14
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-28.28
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-30.30
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-45.45
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-49.49
Channel 8-576: 854.6125-1 CC
Channel 8-1340: 859.3875-1 SCC
Channel 8-1500: 860.3875-1 SCC
Site: 5.5
Channel 8-532: 854.3375-1 CC
Site: 9.9 NAC=009
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-1.1
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-14.14
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-30.30
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-45.45
Channel 8-560: 854.5125-1 SCC
Channel 8-848: 856.3125-1 CC
Channel 8-1488: 860.3125-1 SCC
Channel 8-1568: 860.8125-1 SCC
Site: 14.14
Channel 8-1124: 858.0375-1 CC
Site: 28.28
Channel 8-1280: 859.0125-1 CC
Site: 30.30 NAC=01E
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-1.1
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-5.5
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-9.9
Neighbor: 91F14.2D7-49.49
Channel 8-800: 856.0125-1 SCC
Channel 8-1500: 860.3875-1 CC
Channel 8-1572: 860.8375-1 SCC
Site: 45.45
Channel 8-692: 855.3375-1 CC
Site: 49.49
Channel 8-1124: 858.0375-1 CC- Joined
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I spent a little under 200 miles and a little over 6 hours on the road and got all of the Ohio sites confirmed.
** = Confirmed site location
? = Site location not confirmed
?? = Site location not confirmed but highly likely
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Site Name: Cinti 4th and Main, Hamilton County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJM688, WRKI239
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 1
Site ID: 1
NAC: 001
8-544 - 854.4125 - CC
8-660 - 855.1375 - SCC
8-760 - 855.7625 - SCC
8-984 - 857.1625 - SCC
8-1308 - 859.1875 - SCC
8-1408 - 859.8125 - SCC
Neighbors
22.22 - CC= 8-924 - 856.7875 - Dana
30.30 - CC= 8-896 - 856.6125 - ?
52.52 - CC= 8-936 - 856.8625 - Ryland Heights
56.56 - CC= 8-692 - 855.3375 - Valleyview Office
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Site Name: Alexandria Cooper, Campbell County, Kentucky ??
Call Sign: WRJM735
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 2
Site ID: 2
NAC: 002
8-768 - 855.8125 - CC
8-944 - 856.9125 - SCC
8-1576 - 860.8625 - SCC
Neighbors
52.52 - CC= 8-936 - 856.8625 - Ryland Heights
57.57 - CC= 8-584 - 854.6625 - Verona
63.63 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Zimmer Hill
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Site Name: Ash Ridge, Brown County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJM735
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 3
Site ID: 3
NAC: 003
8-512 - 854.2125 - CC
8-808 - 856.0625 - SCC
8-964 - 857.0375 - SCC
Neighbors
63.63 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Zimmer Hill
67.67 - CC= 8-660 - 855.1375 - Hillcrest Microwave
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Site Name: Batavia Hill, Clermont County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRKI239
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 6
Site ID: 6
NAC: 006
8-888 - 856.5625 - CC
8-1048 - 857.5625 - SCC
8-1368 - 859.5625 - SCC
Neighbors
10.10- CC= 8-1288 - 859.0625 - Brecon Radio
22.22 - CC= 8-924 - 856.7875 - Dana
63.63 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Zimmer Hill
67.67 - CC= 8-660 - 855.1375 - Hillcrest Microwave
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7.7 - CC= 8-1340 - 859.3875 - ?
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Site Name: Brecon Radio, Hamilton County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJK869, WRJM686
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 10
Site ID: 10
NAC: 00A
8-1288 - 859.0625 - CC
8-1360 - 859.5125 - SCC
8-1584 - 860.9125 - SCC
Neighbors
6.6 - CC= 8-888 - 856.5625 - Batavia Hill
22.22 - CC= 8-924 - 856.7875 - Dana
24.24 - CC= 8-648 - 855.0625 - Dicks Creek Station
26.26 - CC= 8-1052 - 857.5875 - Dunlap
56.56 - CC= 8-692 - 855.3375 - Valleyview Office
67.67 - CC= 8-660 - 855.1375 - Hillcrest Microwave
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17.17 - CC= 8-936 - 856.8625 - ?
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Site Name: Dana, Hamilton County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJM686
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 22
Site ID: 22
NAC: 016
8-924 - 856.7875 - CC
8-1092 - 857.8375 - SCC
8-1336 - 859.3625 - SCC
Neighbors
1.1 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Cinti 4th and Main
6.6 - CC= 8.888 - 856.5625 - Batavia Hill
10.10 - CC= 8.1288 - 859.0625 - Brecon Radio
52.52 - CC= 8.936 - 856.8625 - Ryland Heights
56.56 - CC= 8.692 - 855.3375 - Valleyview Office
63.63 - CC= 8.544 - 854.4125 - Zimmer Hill
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Site Name: Dicks Creek Station, Butler County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJM686
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 24
Site ID: 24
NAC: 018
8-648 - 855.0625 - CC
8-764 - 855.7875 - SCC
8-1496 - 860.3625 - SCC
Neighbors
10.10 - CC= 8-1288 - 859.0625 - Brecon Radio
17.17 - CC= 8-936 - 856.8625 - ?
26.26 - CC= 8-1052 - 857.5875 - Dunlap
56.56 - CC= 8-692 - 855.3375 - Valleyview Office
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Site Name: Dunlap, Hamilton County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJK869
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 26
Site ID: 26
NAC: 01A
8-704 - 855.4125 - CC
8-1052 - 857.5875 - SCC
8-1372 - 859.5875 - SCC
Neighbors
10.10 - CC= 8-1288 - 859.0625 - Brecon Radio
24.24 - CC= 8.648 - 855.0625 - Dicks Creek Station
40.40 - CC= 8-884 - 856.5375 - Lawrenceburg
56.56 - CC= 8.692 - 855.3375 - Valleyview Office
69.69 - CC= 8-600 - 854.7625 - Harrison Energy Center
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30.30 - CC= 8-896 - 856.6125 - ?
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Site Name: Lawrenceburg, Dearborn County, Indiana ??
Call Sign: WRJK869
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 40
Site ID: 40
NAC: 028
8-884 - 856.5375 - CC
8-1044 - 857.5375 - SCC
8-1204 - 858.5375 - SCC
Neighbors
7.7 - CC= 8-1340 - 859.3875 - ?
26.26 - CC= 8-704 - 855.4125 - Dunlap
30.30 - CC= 8-896 - 856.6125 - ?
61.61 - CC= 8-600 - 854.7625 - Wilmington Substation
69.69 - CC= 8-600 - 854.7625 - Harrison Energy Center
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Site Name: Ryland Heights, Kenton County, Kentucky ??
Call Sign: WRKI239
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 52
Site ID: 52
NAC: 034
8-936 - 856.8625 - CC
8-1068 - 857.6875 - SCC
8-1452 - 860.0875 - SCC
Neighbors
1.1 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Cinti 4th and Main
2.2 - CC= 8-768 - 855.8125 - Alexandria Cooper
22.22 - CC= 8-924 - 856.7875 - Dana
57.57 - CC= 8-584 - 854.6625 - Verona
63.63 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Zimmer Hill
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Site Name: Valleyview Office, Hamilton County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJK869, WRJM686
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 56
Site ID: 56
NAC: 038
8-692 - 855.3375 - CC
8-860 856.3875 - SCC
8-1208 858.5625 - SCC
8-1328 - 859.3125 - SCC
Neighbors
1.1 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Cinti 4th and Main
10.10 - CC= 8-1288 - 859.0625 - Brecon Radio
22.22 - CC= 8-924 - 856.7875 - Dana
24.24 - CC= 8-648 - 855.0625 - Dicks Creek Station
26.26 - CC= 8-1052 - 857.5875 - Dunlap
30.30 - CC= 8-896 - 856.6125 - ?
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Site Name: Verona, Boone County, Kentucky ??
Call Sign: WRJM686
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 57
Site ID: 57
NAC: 039
8-584 - 854.6625 - CC
8-772 - 855.8375 - SCC
8-1180 - 858.3875 - SCC
Neighbors
No neighbors list reported
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58.58 - CC= 8-1412 - 859.8375 - ?
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Site Name: Wilmington Substation, Dearborn County, Indiana ??
Call Sign: WRJM302
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 61
Site ID: 61
NAC: 03D
8-600 - 854.7625 - CC
8-644 - 855.0375 - SCC
8-1096 - 857.8625 - SCC
Neighbors
7.7 - CC= 8-1340 - 859.3875 - ?
40.40 - CC= 8-884 - 856.5375 - Lawrenceburg
58.58 - CC= 8-1412 - 859.8375 - ?
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Site Name: Zimmer Hill, Clermont County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRKI239
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 63
Site ID: 63
NAC: 03F
8-544 - 854.4125 - CC
8-896 - 856.6125 - SCC
8-1212 - 858.5875 - SCC
Neighbors
2.2 - CC= 8-768 - 855.8125 - Alexandria Cooper
3.3 - CC= 8-512 - 854.2125 - Ash Ridge
6.6 - CC= 8-888 - 856.5625 - Batavia Hill
22.22 - CC= 8-924 - 856.7875 - Dana
52.52 - CC= 8-936 - 856.8625 - Ryland Heights
67.67 - CC= 8-660 - 855.1375 - Hillcrest Microwave
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Site Name: Hillcrest Microwave, Brown County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJM688, WRKI239
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 67
Site ID: 67
NAC: 043
8-660 - 855.1375 - CC
8-988 - 857.1875 - SCC
8-1132 - 858.0875 - SCC
Neighbors
3.3 - CC= 8-512 - 854.2125 - Ash Ridge
6.6 - CC= 8-888 - 856.5625 - Batavia Hill
10.10 - CC= 8-1288 - 859.0625 - Brecon Radio
63.63 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Zimmer Hill
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Site Name: Harrison Energy Center, Hamilton County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJK869, WRJL868
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 69
Site ID: 69
NAC: 045
8-600 - 854.7625 - CC
8-708 - 855.4375 - SCC
8-780 - 855.8875 - SCC
8-820 - 856.1375 - SCC
8-1088 - 857.8125 - SCC
8-1216 - 858.6125 - SCC
Neighbors
26.26 - CC= 8-1052 - 857.5875 - Dunlap
40.40 - CC= 8-884 - 856.5375 - Lawrenceburg
----------
** = Confirmed site location
? = Site location not confirmed
?? = Site location not confirmed but highly likely
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Site Name: Cinti 4th and Main, Hamilton County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJM688, WRKI239
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 1
Site ID: 1
NAC: 001
8-544 - 854.4125 - CC
8-660 - 855.1375 - SCC
8-760 - 855.7625 - SCC
8-984 - 857.1625 - SCC
8-1308 - 859.1875 - SCC
8-1408 - 859.8125 - SCC
Neighbors
22.22 - CC= 8-924 - 856.7875 - Dana
30.30 - CC= 8-896 - 856.6125 - ?
52.52 - CC= 8-936 - 856.8625 - Ryland Heights
56.56 - CC= 8-692 - 855.3375 - Valleyview Office
----------
Site Name: Alexandria Cooper, Campbell County, Kentucky ??
Call Sign: WRJM735
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 2
Site ID: 2
NAC: 002
8-768 - 855.8125 - CC
8-944 - 856.9125 - SCC
8-1576 - 860.8625 - SCC
Neighbors
52.52 - CC= 8-936 - 856.8625 - Ryland Heights
57.57 - CC= 8-584 - 854.6625 - Verona
63.63 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Zimmer Hill
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Site Name: Ash Ridge, Brown County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJM735
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 3
Site ID: 3
NAC: 003
8-512 - 854.2125 - CC
8-808 - 856.0625 - SCC
8-964 - 857.0375 - SCC
Neighbors
63.63 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Zimmer Hill
67.67 - CC= 8-660 - 855.1375 - Hillcrest Microwave
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Site Name: Batavia Hill, Clermont County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRKI239
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 6
Site ID: 6
NAC: 006
8-888 - 856.5625 - CC
8-1048 - 857.5625 - SCC
8-1368 - 859.5625 - SCC
Neighbors
10.10- CC= 8-1288 - 859.0625 - Brecon Radio
22.22 - CC= 8-924 - 856.7875 - Dana
63.63 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Zimmer Hill
67.67 - CC= 8-660 - 855.1375 - Hillcrest Microwave
----------
7.7 - CC= 8-1340 - 859.3875 - ?
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Site Name: Brecon Radio, Hamilton County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJK869, WRJM686
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 10
Site ID: 10
NAC: 00A
8-1288 - 859.0625 - CC
8-1360 - 859.5125 - SCC
8-1584 - 860.9125 - SCC
Neighbors
6.6 - CC= 8-888 - 856.5625 - Batavia Hill
22.22 - CC= 8-924 - 856.7875 - Dana
24.24 - CC= 8-648 - 855.0625 - Dicks Creek Station
26.26 - CC= 8-1052 - 857.5875 - Dunlap
56.56 - CC= 8-692 - 855.3375 - Valleyview Office
67.67 - CC= 8-660 - 855.1375 - Hillcrest Microwave
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17.17 - CC= 8-936 - 856.8625 - ?
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Site Name: Dana, Hamilton County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJM686
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 22
Site ID: 22
NAC: 016
8-924 - 856.7875 - CC
8-1092 - 857.8375 - SCC
8-1336 - 859.3625 - SCC
Neighbors
1.1 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Cinti 4th and Main
6.6 - CC= 8.888 - 856.5625 - Batavia Hill
10.10 - CC= 8.1288 - 859.0625 - Brecon Radio
52.52 - CC= 8.936 - 856.8625 - Ryland Heights
56.56 - CC= 8.692 - 855.3375 - Valleyview Office
63.63 - CC= 8.544 - 854.4125 - Zimmer Hill
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Site Name: Dicks Creek Station, Butler County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJM686
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 24
Site ID: 24
NAC: 018
8-648 - 855.0625 - CC
8-764 - 855.7875 - SCC
8-1496 - 860.3625 - SCC
Neighbors
10.10 - CC= 8-1288 - 859.0625 - Brecon Radio
17.17 - CC= 8-936 - 856.8625 - ?
26.26 - CC= 8-1052 - 857.5875 - Dunlap
56.56 - CC= 8-692 - 855.3375 - Valleyview Office
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Site Name: Dunlap, Hamilton County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJK869
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 26
Site ID: 26
NAC: 01A
8-704 - 855.4125 - CC
8-1052 - 857.5875 - SCC
8-1372 - 859.5875 - SCC
Neighbors
10.10 - CC= 8-1288 - 859.0625 - Brecon Radio
24.24 - CC= 8.648 - 855.0625 - Dicks Creek Station
40.40 - CC= 8-884 - 856.5375 - Lawrenceburg
56.56 - CC= 8.692 - 855.3375 - Valleyview Office
69.69 - CC= 8-600 - 854.7625 - Harrison Energy Center
----------
30.30 - CC= 8-896 - 856.6125 - ?
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Site Name: Lawrenceburg, Dearborn County, Indiana ??
Call Sign: WRJK869
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 40
Site ID: 40
NAC: 028
8-884 - 856.5375 - CC
8-1044 - 857.5375 - SCC
8-1204 - 858.5375 - SCC
Neighbors
7.7 - CC= 8-1340 - 859.3875 - ?
26.26 - CC= 8-704 - 855.4125 - Dunlap
30.30 - CC= 8-896 - 856.6125 - ?
61.61 - CC= 8-600 - 854.7625 - Wilmington Substation
69.69 - CC= 8-600 - 854.7625 - Harrison Energy Center
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Site Name: Ryland Heights, Kenton County, Kentucky ??
Call Sign: WRKI239
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 52
Site ID: 52
NAC: 034
8-936 - 856.8625 - CC
8-1068 - 857.6875 - SCC
8-1452 - 860.0875 - SCC
Neighbors
1.1 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Cinti 4th and Main
2.2 - CC= 8-768 - 855.8125 - Alexandria Cooper
22.22 - CC= 8-924 - 856.7875 - Dana
57.57 - CC= 8-584 - 854.6625 - Verona
63.63 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Zimmer Hill
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Site Name: Valleyview Office, Hamilton County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJK869, WRJM686
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 56
Site ID: 56
NAC: 038
8-692 - 855.3375 - CC
8-860 856.3875 - SCC
8-1208 858.5625 - SCC
8-1328 - 859.3125 - SCC
Neighbors
1.1 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Cinti 4th and Main
10.10 - CC= 8-1288 - 859.0625 - Brecon Radio
22.22 - CC= 8-924 - 856.7875 - Dana
24.24 - CC= 8-648 - 855.0625 - Dicks Creek Station
26.26 - CC= 8-1052 - 857.5875 - Dunlap
30.30 - CC= 8-896 - 856.6125 - ?
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Site Name: Verona, Boone County, Kentucky ??
Call Sign: WRJM686
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 57
Site ID: 57
NAC: 039
8-584 - 854.6625 - CC
8-772 - 855.8375 - SCC
8-1180 - 858.3875 - SCC
Neighbors
No neighbors list reported
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58.58 - CC= 8-1412 - 859.8375 - ?
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Site Name: Wilmington Substation, Dearborn County, Indiana ??
Call Sign: WRJM302
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 61
Site ID: 61
NAC: 03D
8-600 - 854.7625 - CC
8-644 - 855.0375 - SCC
8-1096 - 857.8625 - SCC
Neighbors
7.7 - CC= 8-1340 - 859.3875 - ?
40.40 - CC= 8-884 - 856.5375 - Lawrenceburg
58.58 - CC= 8-1412 - 859.8375 - ?
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Site Name: Zimmer Hill, Clermont County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRKI239
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 63
Site ID: 63
NAC: 03F
8-544 - 854.4125 - CC
8-896 - 856.6125 - SCC
8-1212 - 858.5875 - SCC
Neighbors
2.2 - CC= 8-768 - 855.8125 - Alexandria Cooper
3.3 - CC= 8-512 - 854.2125 - Ash Ridge
6.6 - CC= 8-888 - 856.5625 - Batavia Hill
22.22 - CC= 8-924 - 856.7875 - Dana
52.52 - CC= 8-936 - 856.8625 - Ryland Heights
67.67 - CC= 8-660 - 855.1375 - Hillcrest Microwave
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Site Name: Hillcrest Microwave, Brown County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJM688, WRKI239
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 67
Site ID: 67
NAC: 043
8-660 - 855.1375 - CC
8-988 - 857.1875 - SCC
8-1132 - 858.0875 - SCC
Neighbors
3.3 - CC= 8-512 - 854.2125 - Ash Ridge
6.6 - CC= 8-888 - 856.5625 - Batavia Hill
10.10 - CC= 8-1288 - 859.0625 - Brecon Radio
63.63 - CC= 8-544 - 854.4125 - Zimmer Hill
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Site Name: Harrison Energy Center, Hamilton County, Ohio **
Call Sign: WRJK869, WRJL868
WACN: 91F14
System ID: 201
RFSS: 69
Site ID: 69
NAC: 045
8-600 - 854.7625 - CC
8-708 - 855.4375 - SCC
8-780 - 855.8875 - SCC
8-820 - 856.1375 - SCC
8-1088 - 857.8125 - SCC
8-1216 - 858.6125 - SCC
Neighbors
26.26 - CC= 8-1052 - 857.5875 - Dunlap
40.40 - CC= 8-884 - 856.5375 - Lawrenceburg
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CanesFan95
Analog already is interoperable.
Excellent post, you're contributing a lot. So how do you figure out the site names?
there is a PDF up further in this thread - but here ya go... this is most helpful...
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Analog already is interoperable.
Wonder how many billions this whole system must cost. Why couldn't they just go conventional analog and be done with it? Then they can stop raising their rates and pay the employees better.
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I would imagine the entire system will probably be in the ~100 million range.
Conventional analog doesn't allow for the data applications that this system will include. In my opinion this is a great move for many utility companies. The crews in the field need a reliable radio system. Going P25 could also allow all of the utility companies to interconnect these systems at some point and create an almost national wide radio system.
I would not be surprised if the American Electric Power and Duke Energy systems are already interconnected in some way, being that they are both employing the same TDMA control channel technology.
