Danny37
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So far the only article that has posted about the encryption recently. NYPD BEGINS BLOCKING PRESS AND PUBLIC FROM LISTENING TO ITS RADIO BROADCASTS — THE FREE LANCE
Everything NYPD encryption.
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richee2000
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And so, it starts.... The end of an era.... 🙄
I read an article that was written a couple years ago about it and basically it said the NYPD wasn't going to do anything about the concerns of the press or others until after the fact or when more complaints started coming in.
Danny37
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Same, I left them years ago when they raised their prices and citizen launched. Looking on the citizen app map, it looks like E area in PBBN is rather quiet with alerts. They might be using SOD in the meantime to fill in the gapsDoes this mean no more BNN?
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A whole article written around not being able to make money taking pictures of people suffering and demanding things of the police while bashing them in the next sentence... Poor leg to try and stand on if you ask me...
12dbsinad
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Reading about the demise of listening to the largest Police Dept in the United States is really sad. The amount of key ups and whistling from Baofengs and the sheer number of whackers streaming either innocently or trying to commit crime, as well as wrongful information being posted to social media, call chasing whackers showing up on scene has certainly led to this, so hopefully no one is surprised. Technology has abused our non-right to listen to public safety communications and we are reaping what was sown.
Cities are moving to encrypt the radios because crime is through the roof
When the former mayor of Chicago was running for re-election she decided to hide the weekend killings it’s bad for business
As for NYPD they will learn the hard way once a 85 or 13 comes over and the cop can only get one transmission and it is not heard sadly either they will be killed or severely injured
Then they will go back to analogue and try and fix the issue. The union will push to keep it analogue because of tragedy
FDNY almost learned the hard way in 2003. When a member was trapped in a basement and could not be heard
Digital is good when it works
NYPD will never make it with digital the dept has no radio discipline and most of the cops out there are in fear for their lives so screaming on the air won’t change
As for people bashing one another don’t waste your time
If censoring people’s opinions about this topic you think it will change the outcome of this practice of encryption your wrong
You want change you got to make noise
I plan on contacting Sharpton and the other organizers you will see how fast the encryption will be turned of
I am not a fan of Al but if he can make noise and get the dept shaking in their boots why not
If you censor people saying the truth your helping them destroy the hobby because your keeping quite and Gov is pushing you around
You want something make noise about. Even a infant is intelligent enough to know if he/she is hungry they cry and make noise to get what they want
Making noise got police departments to back off the criminals
Now make noise and I promise you telling the politicians your holding your vote they will backdown
Optics is bad for business this is why encryption is here
When the former mayor of Chicago was running for re-election she decided to hide the weekend killings it’s bad for business
As for NYPD they will learn the hard way once a 85 or 13 comes over and the cop can only get one transmission and it is not heard sadly either they will be killed or severely injured
Then they will go back to analogue and try and fix the issue. The union will push to keep it analogue because of tragedy
FDNY almost learned the hard way in 2003. When a member was trapped in a basement and could not be heard
Digital is good when it works
NYPD will never make it with digital the dept has no radio discipline and most of the cops out there are in fear for their lives so screaming on the air won’t change
As for people bashing one another don’t waste your time
If censoring people’s opinions about this topic you think it will change the outcome of this practice of encryption your wrong
You want change you got to make noise
I plan on contacting Sharpton and the other organizers you will see how fast the encryption will be turned of
I am not a fan of Al but if he can make noise and get the dept shaking in their boots why not
If you censor people saying the truth your helping them destroy the hobby because your keeping quite and Gov is pushing you around
You want something make noise about. Even a infant is intelligent enough to know if he/she is hungry they cry and make noise to get what they want
Making noise got police departments to back off the criminals
Now make noise and I promise you telling the politicians your holding your vote they will backdown
Optics is bad for business this is why encryption is here
n2nov
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It was March 2001. That is why the new UHF fireground handhelds were not available during 9/11.
Training is the key users not educated in how 2way works is a department failure. Most untrained users think 2way is just like a phone that everyone can talk and hear at the same time. Race has nothing to do with radios being encrypted or not. It is back to user training plane and simple.
For New York City, yes... If they are encrypted...I just hope they don't shut the service down altogether it is much better than that IPN trash...Does this mean no more BNN?
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"I plan on contacting Sharpton and the other organizers you will see how fast the encryption will be turned of (sic)"
Al Sharpton is a sad little man and he can howl at the moon I/F/O 1 PP, but theres no money in this issue for him, so good luck going pinning your hopes on him to reverse a plan 10 years in the making. The entire NYPD will be encrypted end-to-end no matter what war dance he does. Especially since the riots showed how badly the normal un-encrypted fm communications can be dirupted by a few dozen unlocked radios in the hands of a bunch of wanna-be revolutionaries. The NY Media doesnt care because they will receive delayed unencrypted feeds direct to their newrooms. The other force involved with this project are the feds, who still use a fair amount of the system and arent happy that any nitwit with a $30 radio can derail a joint investigation or surveillance. Al Sharpton....ROFLMAO
Danny37
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I really don't see the point speculating what will happen. NYPD already made the investment and are moving to P25E, you can throw all the tantrums here but it won't make any difference.
There's proper channels for that, reach out to your community board members and council members and voice your concerns there.
There's proper channels for that, reach out to your community board members and council members and voice your concerns there.
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Cowthief ?
Danny37
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Has this been confirmed? Haven't heard anything about this.
Yes all true, but it will probably go on deaf ears trying to voice any concerns. My small city here in Ct. with a population of 50K was the second department in the whole country to go encrypted way back in the 90's. Let's just say there are other things to listen to for clues as to what is happening around you.
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"Hey saber 3 when they start screaming on the radio and they can not get over we will see"
Evidently the "Real Cop" never seen the commercials where the APX radios are transmitting perfectly readable speech in front of a fire engine siren blasting yelp, wail, hi-lo ect. out at 100+db. Or used an a P25 radio.
But please do keep us informed about your efforts to get that sad little man, whose "sell by" date has long expired along with his relevance to reverse multi-million dollar program.
PS; Tell us what the is the dept. ORI?
Evidently the "Real Cop" never seen the commercials where the APX radios are transmitting perfectly readable speech in front of a fire engine siren blasting yelp, wail, hi-lo ect. out at 100+db. Or used an a P25 radio.
But please do keep us informed about your efforts to get that sad little man, whose "sell by" date has long expired along with his relevance to reverse multi-million dollar program.
PS; Tell us what the is the dept. ORI?
Operative words are: Bizarre Rant
I see Ems is enc to now what about parking enforcement
You're conflating two very different things. You're looking at the NYCICN trunked system, where some of the FDNY fire and EMS talkgroups are multi-cast from their conventional counterparts. The talkgroups are encrypted, the conventional analog is not. In any event, it's off-topic in this thread regarding NYPD.
