Gloucester County 700 Mhz P25 Phase 2 !!

[Septa3371CSX1]

Oh crap is there any scanner that will work ?

The following scanners work on P25 Phase II TDMA systems.

GRE PSR 800
Radio Shack Pro 668
Whistler WS1080/1095
Whistler WS1088/1098
Uniden BCD436/536HP
Uniden Homepatrol 2

 

[u2brent]

Oh crap is there any scanner that will work ?

No scanner will decode encrypted communications. So; if it's 100% encrypted there is no use in trying to listen, aside from seeing RID's, So you can know who is talking but not what is being said...

 

[cru1242]

The Uniden BC325P2 and BC996P2 also receive Phase 2.

 

[FirePD]

The Uniden BC325P2 and BC996P2 also receive Phase 2.

Hello, new guy here on RR, 40 year retired FF'er. I see Gloucester County PD has encrypted 700 mhz now, will one of those scanners allow me to hear ? My son is in the PD and I like knowing he is safe and we serve as town watch so we dont know what's going on to help now.

 

[Septa3371CSX1]

Did some monitoring late this morning from Tinicum. It appears most of the police have switched over the new system. Monitored talkgroups 301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 307, 309, and 310. Only activity on the UHF channels was Zone 2. No cross patching between old and new was observed. All talkgroups monitored were encrypted.

As for the fire/EMS side they were all still on the 500 MHz system. Guessing once all the law enforcement switches over they'll start migrating other users over. Anyone know if the county highway department will be switching over or remaining on 159.180 for the time being?

EDIT: Just updated the unconfirmed talkgroups table on the Wiki for this system.

 

[u2brent]

Hello, new guy here on RR, 40 year retired FF'er. I see Gloucester County PD has encrypted 700 mhz now, will one of those scanners allow me to hear ? My son is in the PD and I like knowing he is safe and we serve as town watch so we dont know what's going on to help now.

Kudos to your son's service & yours as well.. However; You won't be able to listen in though; unless he gives you a spare portable from his PD.

http://forums.radioreference.com/ne...unty-700-mhz-p25-phase-2-a-4.html#post2511764

 

[mikeg7]

encrypted

why on earth do they need normal police work encrypted
So now we cant here what is going on and for the last couple years the press not given us anything
this is wrong
we have a right to know
guess it time to contact a lawyer the need to open it up

 

[FirePD]

Kudos to your son's service & yours as well.. However; You won't be able to listen in though; unless he gives you a spare portable from his PD.

Thank you U2brent. Well that is a bummer about not being able to listen in. Mike has a point, what about the Neighbor Watch programs, and things of that nature helping PDs. I can see some tactical channels encrypted but not the operations channels. I think their new portables cost $3500 each.....ouch! But they needed something reliable to work with as their safety was in jeopardy many times from poor radio comm.

 

[saber2k5]

Yes, in their infinite wisdom, Gloucester Co officials have locked out everyone--including town watch, off duty police officers (that don't have portables issued to them), and ordinary citizens with their stupidity.

 

[Skypilot007]

why on earth do they need normal police work encrypted
So now we cant here what is going on and for the last couple years the press not given us anything
this is wrong
we have a right to know
guess it time to contact a lawyer the need to open it up

Have your son ask his police chief this question. Like mentioned above by others if enough people get together and get the media involved just maybe as a group something can be done. Our tax dollars pay for these elaborate radio networks as well as pay for the police service. There is no reason we should not be able to listen to routine police radio traffic.

 

[Monoxide16]

We all buy these new expensive scanners then we can't even enjoy them. Why pay 500-600$ on a scanner. Would love to hear the new radio system bet it sounds pretty good. But analog will always be better... Look at Philly PD we can hear them.

 

[phillydjdan]

Can anyone confirm or deny that the fire talkgroupos will be encrypted or not?

 

[mikeg7]

Thank you U2brent. Well that is a bummer about not being able to listen in. Mike has a point, what about the Neighbor Watch programs, and things of that nature helping PDs. I can see some tactical channels encrypted but not the operations channels. I think their new portables cost $3500 each.....ouch! But they needed something reliable to work with as their safety was in jeopardy many times from poor radio comm.

$3500.00 that must be after the politicians get their kick back like the governments $500.00 hammer

 

[Septa3371CSX1]

Can anyone confirm or deny that the fire talkgroupos will be encrypted or not?

I remember reading a while back that fire/EMS would be in the clear. Some unencrypted talkgroups have been logged on the system but none from me.

 

[FirePD]

I asked my son today why the need for encryption and he doesn't know officially, but he said he thinks it is because of the media and 'organized crime'. As far as we know, the Fire/EMS will not be encrypted.
I feel lost without my ability to "hear" !

 

[Septa3371CSX1]

Was able to pick up some stuff on the system from my parents' house on the back deck this afternoon in Lansdowne (Delco). That's a good distance from the river but it also seems to be a good spot for picking stuff up (though I can't really get Camden Co's system from there). Anyways got a couple hits on encrypted TG 305.

Also while scanning today noted Police Zone 2 on the UHF is still active but I was only hearing district 25 units (not sure who it is off the top of my head and the Wiki page doesn't list the districts correctly last time I looked). Seems it may be that everyone except those guys has switched over. I did however pick up a brief transmission on UHF Police Zone 4 but couldn't hear what it was. Sheriffs were active on the countywide police UHF-T channel this afternoon as well.

For a while this afternoon Fire Channel 9 (EMS North Response) was tied up with what sounded like either an open mic or a hung repeater. It was like that for a good hour or so and no voice came up asking to check for an open mic so I'll go with hung repeater unless someone knows what it actually was.

Speaking of the fire side - does anyone know if 507.7375 will still be used for dispatch after Fire/EMS move to the trunked system?

 

[FirePD]

Septa, Zone 2 is Logan Twp (Dist 25), Woolwich Twp (Dist 23) & S. Harrison Twp (Dist 26 I think), I usually keep that zone locked out but I did hear them yesterday when they had a fire call. Zone 4 is Franklin Twp, Elk Twp and not sure if anyone else. I'll try to get an answer on the fire dispatch question.

 

[Skypilot007]

I was hearing activity on zone 2 and 4 this morning driving in to work (Logan Twp). Other than the sheriffs on county wide that's all I heard.

 

[FirePD]

Sky, I just unlocked Zone 2 and you're right, they are still on UHF. My son is working today (Zone3) and I hope he can get time to see if there is a way around this. Another example why this encryption stinks is, we as FF'ers would hear a call first on police band and would be responding before tones went out, now that cant be done.

 

[Analogrules]

Why does the RR DB still list every town as "in the clear" and makes no reference to anything being encrypted??