GMRS License Question

[ThomasMcKean]

I have a HAM license and I want a GMRS license. Once or twice I have talked on GMRS at 5 watts and that convinces me I would like a license because unlike the other 10 million people out there, I want to do it legally.

So my question is where do I get one? Is there an FCC form I have to fill out in triplicate somewhere? Last I hear it was 89 bucks no test. Is that still true?

Someone please point me in the direction of the license form so I can be above board. Thanks.

Thomas KK4ISK

 

[n5ims]

FCC Form 605

Please note it was real easy to find using Google - http://www.google.com/ (search term was "gmrs license application", first result returned). "You give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. You teach him to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime."

 

[ThomasMcKean]

FCC Form 605

Please note it was real easy to find using Google - Google (search term was "gmrs license application", first result returned). "You give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. You teach him to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime."

605? ACK! I already have that! Maybe I better look it over again.

Thomas

 

[SCPD]

Go to the FCC website and apply online and I am glad you are getting a GMRS license,I have saw questions from other Hams wanting to know if there license would cover them for GMRS my reply was does my GMRS license cover me on Ham...lol

 

[ThomasMcKean]

Go to the FCC website and apply online and I am glad you are getting a GMRS license,I have saw questions from other Hams wanting to know if there license would cover them for GMRS my reply was does my GMRS license cover me on Ham...lol

Yeah that is sorta what I was looking for is the online link. I don't think form 605 is it? Would I email back the form? I was thinking there was an actual form online I fill out and click SEND somewhere. Maybe I'll GOOGLE it like sarcastic fella above says.

 

[n5ims]

Yeah that is sorta what I was looking for is the online link. I don't think form 605 is it? Would I email back the form? I was thinking there was an actual form online I fill out and click SEND somewhere. Maybe I'll GOOGLE it like sarcastic fella above says.

Just use the link I provided and click the link where it says "To file electronically, click Online Filing". It will explain how you can apply electronically through the ULS system. Since you're a ham, you should already have the necessary registration (you're login is your FRN which can be found searching on your ham call - include the leading zeros, if you don't have your password, use the "Forgot Password?" link to create it). You can then click the "Apply for a New License" link, select the desired service "ZA - General Mobile Radio (GMRS)" and continue to complete your application.

 

[ThomasMcKean]

Just use the link I provided and click the link where it says "To file electronically, click Online Filing". It will explain how you can apply electronically through the ULS system. Since you're a ham, you should already have the necessary registration (you're login is your FRN which can be found searching on your ham call - include the leading zeros, if you don't have your password, use the "Forgot Password?" link to create it). You can then click the "Apply for a New License" link, select the desired service "ZA - General Mobile Radio (GMRS)" and continue to complete your application.

Yes that is exactly what I did earlier today, as well as (very reluctantly) forking over $85.00 to good old Uncle Sam. I wouldn't think a GMRS would take to long to process?

 

[KB0VWG]

Got it shortly

I think I got my license in just a couple of days.
kb0vwg
wqoi992

 

[vagrant]

I thought the FCC was doing away with the license for GMRS, then read this:

"In 2010, the FCC proposed to remove the individual licensing requirement for GMRS and instead license GMRS “by rule” (meaning that an individual license would not be required to operate a GMRS device). This proposal is still pending." General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS) | FCC.gov

"This proposal is still pending" - I wonder if and, or when that will happen. I also wonder why a Technician license, or higher, wouldn't cover GMRS as well. My only guess is the additional revenue stream from the GMRS license. Anyone have insight why the Tech doesn't cover?

 

[nd5y]

I also wonder why a Technician license, or higher, wouldn't cover GMRS as well. My only guess is the additional revenue stream from the GMRS license. Anyone have insight why the Tech doesn't cover?

The same reason your drivers license doesn't allow you to fly an airplane. Amateur radio and GMRS are two different services with different rules and requirements.

 

[gewecke]

I thought the FCC was doing away with the license for GMRS, then read this:

"In 2010, the FCC proposed to remove the individual licensing requirement for GMRS and instead license GMRS “by rule” (meaning that an individual license would not be required to operate a GMRS device). This proposal is still pending." General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS) | FCC.gov

"This proposal is still pending" - I wonder if and, or when that will happen. I also wonder why a Technician license, or higher, wouldn't cover GMRS as well. My only guess is the additional revenue stream from the GMRS license. Anyone have insight why the Tech doesn't cover?

GMRS is NOT in the amateur radio service. What's the opposite of day?
I hope this helps. :wink:

73,
n9zas

 

[vagrant]

The same reason your drivers license doesn't allow you to fly an airplane. Amateur radio and GMRS are two different services with different rules and requirements.

While I am summarizing, the Technician license requires a person pass a test and pay the fee, where as the GMRS license only requires a fee.

Perhaps a better analogy would be having a drivers license to drive a car (Technician) and only needing to pay a fee to ride the bumper cars (GMRS), cause it's bumpy on those freqs!

I understand your point though. There are some, details/differences to know about GMRS which aren't included for the Technician.
- Max antenna height
- Max power
- Frequency coverage

Hmm..why not have an addition to the test for those who want it, Technician +GMRS. Of course this may become moot if the FCC opens up GMRS.

 

[vagrant]

GMRS is NOT in the amateur radio service. What's the opposite of day?
I hope this helps. :wink:

73,
n9zas

My thinking is if the Extra encompasses the General & Technician, why couldn't Technician and above encompass GMRS as well. I understand Amateur Radio is not General Mobile Radio, but I guess I just figure if you have the knowledge to acquire the Technician, why wouldn't it cover you for something that only needs a fee?

 

[robertmac]

Just because you are licensed as an MD doesn't mean you are a brain surgeon.

 

[MeddleMan]

Up front fee...

...is the same as paying $17 per year, up front. Pretty cheap, if you are willing to pay all of it, up front.

 

[SteveC0625]

Your Tech license is a personal license, earned by passing a test of your knowledge of radio and electronics. While the tech license authorizes you to perform radio operations in specific frequency bands, it is not a station license. It is an operators license.

The GMRS is a station license like so many others issued for broadcast, public safety, business, etc. Each has its own rules and conditions.

The FCC doesn't mix license types, and wishing is not going to make it so.

 

[SCPD]

I thought the FCC was doing away with the license for GMRS, then read this:

"In 2010, the FCC proposed to remove the individual licensing requirement for GMRS and instead license GMRS “by rule” (meaning that an individual license would not be required to operate a GMRS device). This proposal is still pending." General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS) | FCC.gov

"This proposal is still pending" - I wonder if and, or when that will happen. I also wonder why a Technician license, or higher, wouldn't cover GMRS as well. My only guess is the additional revenue stream from the GMRS license. Anyone have insight why the Tech doesn't cover?

Your Tech.license doesn't cover you on GMRS for the same reason it doesn't cover you on part 90 public safety or any other radio service, it is a totally different radio service,yet this same question gets ask over and over.The reason should be clear.seems like some Hams believe they have a free pass to use any frequency the wish.

I said it before Ham operators who studied for a test and passed should understand the Part 97 rules and where they are authorized to talk but still ask if their Ham license will cover them on GMRS so my reply to that should be why wouldn't my GMRS license cover me on Ham? It would be the same as saying will my Ham license cover me on GMRS..

If I asked that question the Ham community if I could use my GMRS license of their frequencies they would so nuts

.People have to realize a Ham license does not authorize you to talk everywhere except Ham frequencies,what part do you not understand?

 

[gewecke]

Your Tech license is a personal license, earned by passing a test of your knowledge of radio and electronics. While the tech license authorizes you to perform radio operations in specific frequency bands, it is not a station license. It is an operators license.

The GMRS is a station license like so many others issued for broadcast, public safety, business, etc. Each has its own rules and conditions.

The FCC doesn't mix license types, and wishing is not going to make it so.

Well said and explained!

73,
n9zas