Harris XL-200P Programming trouble

[12dbsinad]

I've converted plenty of systems to narrowband back before the mandate. Never did I ever experience this "OMG" loss of range that everyone screams about. As a matter of fact, most didn't even know narrownbanding occurred. Of course, things need to be properly checked including all base stations and subscriber units. We didn't just slam bam thank you ma'am reprogram everything, because there are receiver issues when selecting narrow due to defective ceramic filters in older equipment.

A lot of people on VHF actually gained because it got rid of splash over from very close adjacent channels, especially when one user was already narrow and the other was wide.

 

[WB5ITT]

Sorry, wrong. As bandwidth increases, so does channel noise.

This is why CW signals get through noisy conditions when any higher bandwidth signal (such as voice) may not.

DTMF? Frankly it's an anachronism at this point. Who bothers with the autopatch when everbody has a cell phone?

I have not heard the autopatch being used in my area in literally years.

Narrowbanding gives a better signal to noise ratio and increases power density per Hz of bandwidth.

If you're getting range reduction, something is very wrong.

DTMF is still used in controlling systems....DUH!!! I never said anything about AUTOPATCH!!! When you decrease MI below 1, your SN suffers PERIOD....commercial radios use compandoring to counter it but that adds other issues as well....Ive been in LMR for 45+ years...CW gets through because it has NO MI....it is a narrow band signal already and no real bandwidth (except based on speed of the CW)...

YOU ARE WRONG......

 

[KevinC]

DTMF is still used in controlling systems....DUH!!! I never said anything about AUTOPATCH!!! When you decrease MI below 1, your SN suffers PERIOD....commercial radios use compandoring to counter it but that adds other issues as well....Ive been in LMR for 45+ years...CW gets through because it has NO MI....it is a narrow band signal already and no real bandwidth (except based on speed of the CW)...

YOU ARE WRONG......

Hear Clear...ugh....

 

[ChristianPeri26]

Anyways, back to Harris XL-200P programming, how do I enable FPP?

 

[ElroyJetson]

Options, XL-radio options. Create a channel edit password. When this is present, FPP will be enabled.

 

[wa8pyr]

Options, XL-radio options. Create a channel edit password. When this is present, FPP will be enabled.

It also enables the Channel Info button press (on our radios it's left arrow, I don't recall if it can be put on other buttons). CH INFO shows you all sorts of useful stuff; for example, on a trunked talkgroup it shows TG name, number, radio ID, RSSI, assigned working channel (when active), control channel, zone and site numbers, and various others.

 

[ElroyJetson]

I was not aware of that but I'll certainly program it into my radio because those channel info fields will be useful. This local system has a noise problem that comes and goes and I'm trying to assist, more or less from the sidelines, in finding it. I suspect it's associated with a specific repeater and channel info will help me to verify it.

 

[TDR-94]

It also enables the Channel Info button press (on our radios it's left arrow, I don't recall if it can be put on other buttons). CH INFO shows you all sorts of useful stuff; for example, on a trunked talkgroup it shows TG name, number, radio ID, RSSI, assigned working channel (when active), control channel, zone and site numbers, and various others.

Does the CH INFO show these parameters with EDACS? The manual doesn't mention anything specific to EDACS with regards to CH INFO.

 

[ElroyJetson]

Since EDACS is actually a native function on the XL-185 and 200, literally not even requiring the purchase of the EDACS trunked package to work, I'm assuming so. Haven't programmed it into my radio yet, though.

Yes, it's true. You don't have to buy EDACS trunking for it to handle EDACS trunking for the 185/200. Confirmed. My own radio is equipped in this manner. It has NO trunked features at all, just P25 conventional, but works just fine with EDACS and that includes ProVoice operation. There are no listed ProVoice or EDACS features in the feature list.

 

[TDR-94]

Since EDACS is actually a native function on the XL-185 and 200, literally not even requiring the purchase of the EDACS trunked package to work, I'm assuming so. Haven't programmed it into my radio yet, though.

Yes, it's true. You don't have to buy EDACS trunking for it to handle EDACS trunking for the 185/200. Confirmed. My own radio is equipped in this manner. It has NO trunked features at all, just P25 conventional, but works just fine with EDACS and that includes ProVoice operation. There are no listed ProVoice or EDACS features in the feature list.

Let me know if CH INFO shows EDACS system parameters, like it does with P25.

 

[wa8pyr]

Does the CH INFO show these parameters with EDACS? The manual doesn't mention anything specific to EDACS with regards to CH INFO.

It's a global feature so it should work. That being said I can't confirm anymore as we ditched our EDACS system seven years ago.

 

[ChristianPeri26]

I’ve decided I’m selling my Loaded Harris XL-200 with accessories if any of you are interested. I can give one of y’all a good deal. I have it listed on eBay currently

 

[ElroyJetson]

Yes, CH INFO does show those parameters on EDACS systems. I finally got around to setting that up in my radio.

 

[Bledsoei]

I know this thread might be dead but I thought I would post and see if I can get any responses, I recently got into the Harris side of things from a CPS and Armada primary focus but when I try to enable VA in RPM I get a error message stating the audio config file is missing. Has anyone else ran into this issue?

 

[Forts]

Have you created the audio file and have it in the proper directory?

 

[Bledsoei]

Have you created the audio file and have it in the proper directory?

Yes. I’ve placed the audio file on the respective channel and I get no VA

 

[Forts]

Did you write the VA file to the radio too? Also under Options - Voice Annunciation... Voice Annunciation is checked at the top?

 

[Forts]

Might find this helpful too...

 

[Bledsoei]

I wrote the file and checked the files by themselves and they still functioned

 

[ChristianPeri26]

I’ve decided I’m selling my Loaded Harris XL-200 with accessories if any of you are interested. I can give one of y’all a good deal. I have it listed on eBay currently

SOLD