Help finding Philadelphia police radio frequencies.

ryantheryguy

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Hi there my name is RYAN and I was wondering if I can have help finding some frequencies for the following talk group id numbers. I’m unaware of what the frequency would be for the talk group.
They are from the Philadelphia area police departments.



2370edDPFD North FireNorth Fire DispatchFire Dispatch
2390efDPFD South FireSouth Fire DispatchFire Dispatch
2410f1DPFD North MedicNorth EMS Dispatch (North Medic)EMS Dispatch
2350ebDPFD Cent MedicCentral EMS Dispatch (Central Medic)EMS Dispatch
2430f3DPFD South MedicSouth EMS Dispatch (South Medic)EMS Dispatch
2530fdDEPFD North Tac 1North Fire and EMS Tactical 1Fire-Tac
2550ffDEPFD North Tac 2North Fire and EMS Tactical 2Fire-Tac
257101DEPFD North Tac 3North Fire and EMS Tactical 3Fire-Tac
2450f5DEPFD South Tac 1South Fire and EMS Tactical 1Fire-Tac
2470f7DEPFD South Tac 2South Fire and EMS Tactical 2Fire-Tac
2490f9DEPFD South Tac 3South Fire and EMS Tactical 3Fire-Tac

08bDPPD 6th Tac6th District TacticalLaw Tac
14108dDPPD 7th Tac7th District TacticalLaw Tac
14308fDPPD 8th Tac8th District TacticalLaw Tac
145091DPPD 9th Tac9th District TacticalLaw Tac
147093DPPD 12th Tac12th. District TacticalLaw Tac
149095DPPD 16th Tac16th. District TacticalLaw Tac
153099DPPD 18th Tac18th. District TacticalLaw Tac
15509bDPPD 19th Tac19th. District TacticalLaw Tac
15709dDPPD 22nd Tac22nd District TacticalLaw Tac
15909fDPPD 39th Tac39th. District TacticalLaw Tac
1610a1DPPD 14th Tac14th District TacticalLaw Tac
1630a3DPPD 15th Tac15th. District TacticalLaw Tac
1650a5DPPD 24th Tac24th. District TacticalLaw Tac
1670a7DPPD 25th Tac25th. District TacticalLaw Tac
1690a9DPPD 26th Tac26th. District TacticalLaw Tac
1710abDPPD 35th Tac35th. District TacticalLaw Tac
001DPPD Far-NEFar North-East Division (7th. and 8th. Districts)Law Dispatch
3003DPPD N-EastNorth-East Division (2nd. and 15th. Districts)Law Dispatch
19013DPPD East 1East Division 1 (24th. and 26th. Districts)Law Dispatch
21015DPPD East 2East Division 2 (25th. District)Law Dispatch
1500fDPPD NorthNorth Division (14th. and 35th. Districts)Law Dispatch
5005DPPD N-CentrlNorth-Central Division (22nd. District)Law Dispatch
17011DPPD N-WestNorth-West Division (5th. and 39th. Districts)Law Dispatch
7007DPPD CentralCentral Division (6th. and 9th. Districts)Law Dispatch
9009DPPD South 1South Division 1 (1st., 3rd. and 17th. Districts)Law Dispatch
1100bDPPD S-WestSouth-West Division (12th. and 18th. Districts)Law Dispatch
1300dDPPD WestWest Division (16th. and 19th. Districts)Law Dispatch


Thank you
Ryan.
 

RaleighGuy

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Hi there my name is RYAN and I was wondering if I can have help finding some frequencies for the following talk group id numbers. I’m unaware of what the frequency would be for the talk group.
They are from the Philadelphia area police departments.



2370edDPFD North FireNorth Fire DispatchFire Dispatch
2390efDPFD South FireSouth Fire DispatchFire Dispatch
2410f1DPFD North MedicNorth EMS Dispatch (North Medic)EMS Dispatch
2350ebDPFD Cent MedicCentral EMS Dispatch (Central Medic)EMS Dispatch
2430f3DPFD South MedicSouth EMS Dispatch (South Medic)EMS Dispatch
2530fdDEPFD North Tac 1North Fire and EMS Tactical 1Fire-Tac
2550ffDEPFD North Tac 2North Fire and EMS Tactical 2Fire-Tac
257101DEPFD North Tac 3North Fire and EMS Tactical 3Fire-Tac
2450f5DEPFD South Tac 1South Fire and EMS Tactical 1Fire-Tac
2470f7DEPFD South Tac 2South Fire and EMS Tactical 2Fire-Tac
2490f9DEPFD South Tac 3South Fire and EMS Tactical 3Fire-Tac

08bDPPD 6th Tac6th District TacticalLaw Tac
14108dDPPD 7th Tac7th District TacticalLaw Tac
14308fDPPD 8th Tac8th District TacticalLaw Tac
145091DPPD 9th Tac9th District TacticalLaw Tac
147093DPPD 12th Tac12th. District TacticalLaw Tac
149095DPPD 16th Tac16th. District TacticalLaw Tac
153099DPPD 18th Tac18th. District TacticalLaw Tac
15509bDPPD 19th Tac19th. District TacticalLaw Tac
15709dDPPD 22nd Tac22nd District TacticalLaw Tac
15909fDPPD 39th Tac39th. District TacticalLaw Tac
1610a1DPPD 14th Tac14th District TacticalLaw Tac
1630a3DPPD 15th Tac15th. District TacticalLaw Tac
1650a5DPPD 24th Tac24th. District TacticalLaw Tac
1670a7DPPD 25th Tac25th. District TacticalLaw Tac
1690a9DPPD 26th Tac26th. District TacticalLaw Tac
1710abDPPD 35th Tac35th. District TacticalLaw Tac
001DPPD Far-NEFar North-East Division (7th. and 8th. Districts)Law Dispatch
3003DPPD N-EastNorth-East Division (2nd. and 15th. Districts)Law Dispatch
19013DPPD East 1East Division 1 (24th. and 26th. Districts)Law Dispatch
21015DPPD East 2East Division 2 (25th. District)Law Dispatch
1500fDPPD NorthNorth Division (14th. and 35th. Districts)Law Dispatch
5005DPPD N-CentrlNorth-Central Division (22nd. District)Law Dispatch
17011DPPD N-WestNorth-West Division (5th. and 39th. Districts)Law Dispatch
7007DPPD CentralCentral Division (6th. and 9th. Districts)Law Dispatch
9009DPPD South 1South Division 1 (1st., 3rd. and 17th. Districts)Law Dispatch
1100bDPPD S-WestSouth-West Division (12th. and 18th. Districts)Law Dispatch
1300dDPPD WestWest Division (16th. and 19th. Districts)Law Dispatch


Thank you
Ryan.
That is a trunked system, you listen to the site control channel from the database @Railbender post a link to. When you program in the site you will then also select those TGs.

What kind of scanner do you have and what software are you using?
 

Whiskey3JMC

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Welcome to the RR forums. Read up on how trunked radio systems work

Once you have a grasp on it, program in the Zone 2 simulcast. This is where Philly Police & Fire/EMS traffic is carried. The Zone 1 simulcast carries other city services. Only mode "D" talkgroups on the system can be monitored. Mode "DE" talkgroups are fully encrypted and cannot be monitored by any scanner. Highly recommended to scan using a Uniden SDS100 or SDS200 as simulcast distortion will be a factor scanning with anything else
 
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ryantheryguy

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That is a trunked system, you listen to the site control channel from the database @Railbender post a link to. When you program in the site you will then also select those TGs.

What kind of scanner do you have and what software are you using?
Hi thank you for the reply I’m using a Motorola xtl 2500 7/800 MHz mobile radio with the Motorola RVN4186AX Astro 25 XTS / XTL Series CPS Programming Software
 

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Simulcast zone 1 (site 3) is the primary system for fire and other city agencies. Simulcast zone 2 (site 4) is the primary system for the police department.

It is my understanding that if the Zone 2 system is completely filled with traffic -- and a PPD unit initiates an additional request, it will be routed to a Zone 1 channel.

The only possible way to monitor with a Motorola radio is using NAS, which is not a trivial programming process. In order to do any programming of a trunking system, a system key is required.

It is not possible to merely sit on a talk group and receive any audio without affiliation. It is part of the P25 standard.

Notwithstanding all the above, there is a definite limit on the number of talk groups that can be programmed into a scan list. Also, once you exceed five or six tgs in the scan list on this busy system, you will miss a large amount of traffic.

As many others have stated so many times in similar posts, you will do better with a scanner -- it must be LSM capable -- such as an SDS. Another great option is the Unication G series "pager".
 

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Just to be clear here, you run the risk of ending up in jail and/or paying big fines if you program your radio wrong. Given that you couldn't seem to find the frequencies you needed even though they would have been on the same page where the talkgroup list was, you may want to rethink playing with an XTL and trying to program this system. But, then again, go for it. YOLO, right?
 

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Hi thank you for the reply I’m using a Motorola xtl 2500 7/800 MHz mobile radio with the Motorola RVN4186AX Astro 25 XTS / XTL Series CPS Programming Software

Oh boy. As others have said. Just stop. You have no idea of what you are doing.
Sell the XTL and buy a scanner or Unication pager.
 

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PhillyFireFeed sells programmed radios. Email them, they might program your radio for a fee. I got rid of my radios going on 2 years ago when I got my unication g4. Unication is so simple to program.
 

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PhillyFireFeed sells programmed radios. Email them, they might program your radio for a fee. I got rid of my radios going on 2 years ago when I got my unication g4. Unication is so simple to program.
Unications also receive the system very well. I use mine whenever I am in the city and sometimes from out in the burbs, too.
 

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It's very small to carry around, it's simple to program compared to other radios, plus it has bluetooth. Last night I programmed camden county fire and Gloucester county fire. It took me like 15 mins to program both.
 

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I have seen the Unication pager in use. Sound is very good. You may not get the extreme volume that an APX offers, but range seems very close to the APX portable. The Unication will also allow for manual encryption keyloading -- no extra tools, just a program add on. It is -- without question -- the way to monitor trunked systems.
 

chainsawman

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Simulcast zone 1 (site 3) is the primary system for fire and other city agencies. Simulcast zone 2 (site 4) is the primary system for the police department.

It is my understanding that if the Zone 2 system is completely filled with traffic -- and a PPD unit initiates an additional request, it will be routed to a Zone 1 channel.

The only possible way to monitor with a Motorola radio is using NAS, which is not a trivial programming process. In order to do any programming of a trunking system, a system key is required.

It is not possible to merely sit on a talk group and receive any audio without affiliation. It is part of the P25 standard.

Notwithstanding all the above, there is a definite limit on the number of talk groups that can be programmed into a scan list. Also, once you exceed five or six tgs in the scan list on this busy system, you will miss a large amount of traffic.

As many others have stated so many times in similar posts, you will do better with a scanner -- it must be LSM capable -- such as an SDS. Another great option is the Unication G series "pager".
When you're looking at these P25 pages, how do you know whether to listen to the Zone 1 or Zone 2 systems in order to pick up police/fire bands? I have a similar issue on other cities like city of Houston on the TxWARN system. Thanks.
 

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PPD and some PFD (N, S Fire, EMS) are on zone 2.
PFD and some PPD( J, T, M) are on Zone 1 along with the rest of the city services including Airport. The reason for it, if something happens to either zone, certain talkgroups are still transmitted.
 
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