Hillsborough County (EDACS and P25 32D.1E306)

[wanabe]

So I just turned on my Harris P7300 with P1 and P2 features.. and switched to the Tampa P25 sys I programed a year ago, and its working....still using the (Edacs?) 800 freq and not the new 700 freq. How is that possible? Maybe they didn't depreciate it yet? Batdude put the new 700 freq in the database in May and I haven't loaded them in yet, but the old 800s are still working. Let me know please, if anyone is seeing the same thing. TIA

 

[zlandmedia]

Tampa Fire and PD is still multicast to EDACS. They do both EDACS and P25.

 

[ke4crc]

So I just turned on my Harris P7300 with P1 and P2 features.. and switched to the Tampa P25 sys I programed a year ago, and its working....still using the (Edacs?) 800 freq and not the new 700 freq. How is that possible? Maybe they didn't depreciate it yet? Batdude put the new 700 freq in the database in May and I haven't loaded them in yet, but the old 800s are still working. Let me know please, if anyone is seeing the same thing. TIA

Some talk groups are only on the P-25 (700) system some haven't moved yet and some TGs are using both P-25 & Edax

 

[CanesFan95]

I have a feeling Tampa PD is still using EDACS because their P25 audio has a delay after they talk on EDACS.

 

[CanesFan95]

So how come fire rescue has to ask if BLS is available? Assuming, "BLS" basically means an ambulance? Sometimes dispatch tells 'em there's "no BLS". So what are they supposed to do?

In Pinellas County, they automatically get a Sunstar ambulance. No asking if one is available. If they run out of Sunstars, that's considered very serious. But it seems routine in Hillsborough.

 

[CanesFan95]

Next question.

Why does Tampa Fire dispatch call the unit first before dispatching 'em? Doesn't that just delay the dispatch? They should just dispatch 'em right away and not be sitting there waiting for a reply.

 

[tpredmore]

So how come fire rescue has to ask if BLS is available? Assuming, "BLS" basically means an ambulance? Sometimes dispatch tells 'em there's "no BLS". So what are they supposed to do?

In Pinellas County, they automatically get a Sunstar ambulance. No asking if one is available. If they run out of Sunstars, that's considered very serious. But it seems routine in Hillsborough.

BLS transport in Tampa is primarily handled by TransCare, which has it's own dispatch. ALS is handled by TFD directly. Sometimes TransCare responds alone for BLS calls, sometimes they respond with TFD.

I've personally seen TFD respond with a transport capable truck, sit there for 45 minutes waiting for TransCare to arrive and transport. FD will sit there and wait for TransCare to show up and do the transport.

 

[N1ARS]

So I just turned on my Harris P7300 with P1 and P2 features.. and switched to the Tampa P25 sys I programed a year ago, and its working....still using the (Edacs?) 800 freq and not the new 700 freq. How is that possible? Maybe they didn't depreciate it yet? Batdude put the new 700 freq in the database in May and I haven't loaded them in yet, but the old 800s are still working. Let me know please, if anyone is seeing the same thing. TIA

Copying TPD on EDACS, but the signal is choppy here in Riverview. I have a 536HP and have given up on P25.

 

[tampabaynews]

Next question.

Why does Tampa Fire dispatch call the unit first before dispatching 'em? Doesn't that just delay the dispatch? They should just dispatch 'em right away and not be sitting there waiting for a reply.

Dispatch usually does that for units not in quarters. It's better to ensure they're ready to hear the dispatch than tying up radio traffic with "please repeat."

 

[CanesFan95]

But they should get the details on their MDTs. I think they oughta do it like Pinellas where they just dispatch 'em point blank right away. The time they spend calling the unit first and waiting for a reply delays just going ahead and just dispatching the call.

 

[CanesFan95]

So let me ask this about BLSs. How do they decide when to send AmeriCare, TransCare, or AMR? Cause I see numerous different ambulance companies around the county.

And why is it seemingly OK for dispatch to just key up and none-cholantly say oh, no BLS available. In Pinellas, they almost never go oh sorry, no Sunstar.

 

[junior71]

So let me ask this about BLSs. How do they decide when to send AmeriCare, TransCare, or AMR? Cause I see numerous different ambulance companies around the county.

And why is it seemingly OK for dispatch to just key up and none-cholantly say oh, no BLS available. In Pinellas, they almost never go oh sorry, no Sunstar.

No Deathstar available at least 2 times a day in Pinellas.

 

[tampabaynews]

But they should get the details on their MDTs. I think they oughta do it like Pinellas where they just dispatch 'em point blank right away. The time they spend calling the unit first and waiting for a reply delays just going ahead and just dispatching the call.

Yes, they use MDT's. Their policy simply requires voice acknowledgment and status updates in addition to any actions performed on their MDT.

 

[tampabaynews]

So let me ask this about BLSs. How do they decide when to send AmeriCare, TransCare, or AMR? Cause I see numerous different ambulance companies around the county.

The City of Tampa only uses TransCare for BLS. Hillsborough uses all three.

And why is it seemingly OK for dispatch to just key up and none-cholantly say oh, no BLS available. In Pinellas, they almost never go oh sorry, no Sunstar.

Tampa has their own ALS ambulances and only dispatches BLS on Alpha or Bravo calls to help alleviate the load on their ALS fleet. When no BLS is available, the ALS unit simply does the transport. It may appear nonchalant... because it's not a big deal. Patients still get transported.

Pinellas almost entirely uses SunStar both ALS and BLS transport even if a city ALS ambulance is assigned to the call. One would say the Pinellas model is a waste. That's why they've experimenting with "Medic" sprinter units.

Two very different models.

 

[Thomaspj2]

I recently moved to Hillsborough County. I have and old BC246T scanner. Does anyone know if it would scan here? The system shows the groups to be analog.
Thanks

 

[kd4efm]

Migration to p25 p2 is in the works.

 

[bravo14]

Here is the thread for the old/new system

Hillsborough County (EDACS and P25 32D.1E306)

Turned on my G5 last night with the new antenna on County P25 and saw Tampa P25 back on the system at night. Can someone tell me if they are running 24/7 now on P25 and should I put in the other FD talk groups besides Dist. 1? Thanks Ed

forums.radioreference.com

 

[pcalandra]

Don't know the scanner but if it can't handle P25 Phase 2 simulcast it won't do well on Hillsborough's new P25 Phase 2 system

 

[tampabaynews]

The BC246T is analog-only so it will only work on the EDACS system that's being phased out. There is some traffic still being simulcast on the system but you'll need to look into a P25 Phase II capable scanner, preferably an SDS-100/200.

 

[Thomaspj2]

The BC246T is analog-only so it will only work on the EDACS system that's being phased out. There is some traffic still being simulcast on the system but you'll need to look into a P25 Phase II capable scanner, preferably an SDS-100/200.

Thanks, I have the SDS100. Just trying to find a use for my old faithful scanner. Tampa still uses the EDACS.