Huron County P25 TRS

[ctpd845]

Mike,

The Ottawa County Site has never showed Parma or Medina as neighboring sites so I would presume that If Huron County is part of this system, it will not show any neighboring sites.

 

[mtindor]

Mike,

The Ottawa County Site has never showed Parma or Medina as neighboring sites so I would presume that If Huron County is part of this system, it will not show any neighboring sites.

Hmm, I guess that it'll even be a little rougher to determine whether Huron is standalone or part of the other system then. In the commissioner minutes over the past year, I've only seen references to grants for fire departments and mentions of MARCS, and this definitely is not a MARCS site. I saw mentions of Harris (and I figure this is a Harris system), but in other commissioner minutes they were raving MOtorola. I have not seen anything in commissioner minutes to suggest that this is/will be part of the Ottawa/Parma/Medina system. But the WACN is the same as the O/P/M system.

Putting the site into the RRDB at this point is something I can't do because we just don't know yet if it's separate or not. But in other parts of commissioner minutes it did sound like it was going to be separate -- just a simulcast for Huron Co. I sure they had more recent commissioner minutes up online, as they would likely have been having discussions over the past couple of months about progress.

M

 

[dth1958]

At the moment i am trying to figure out how am i going to listen in
new to SDRTrunk anyhow getting hits off it today this is the first page of info ....

 

[mtindor]

At the moment i am trying to figure out how am i going to listen in
new to SDRTrunk anyhow getting hits off it today this is the first page of info ....View attachment 93034

If you haven't, I think you are going to have to create a PLaylist for that system using the Playlist editor. Then you will have to add talkgroups that you want to listen to, to that playlist. I believe there is a "catchall" you can add so that it'll play everything, but off the top of my head I cannot think of it. I'm betting somebody else will chime and tell you what that is.

And the radio IDs appear to be 39xxxxx (county number 39 - Huron) and 18xxxxx (county number 18 - Cuyahoga), which is interesting. That's the way the numbering is on MARCS. Hmm. And on MARCS, 255xx TGs are Huron county TGs. And there you show 25500.

So somehow, this is seeing some MARCS-related traffic on it. I'm not a radio system guy, but it looks like this Huron system might be hooked into MARCS by some other method (whilst not actually being a MARCS site).

25500 is probably either some Huron Co P/F/EMs talkgroup or a talkgroup belonging to Cleveland Communications, and I'm wondering if the 18xxxxx radio IDs aren't Cleveland Communications doing testing on TG 25500.

Mike

 

[dth1958]

Currently stream up 4 feeds and rely on broadcastify dashboards it would be hard to single the sound out at the console
not sure what scanner's are phase II in my line up
I think the TRX 2 is but its not program user friendly for me
WX 1065 maybe i could pull it out of the line up ?
I would guess its probably testing phase at the moment

 

[mtindor]

Currently stream up 4 feeds and rely on broadcastify dashboards it would be hard to single the sound out at the console
not sure what scanner's are phase II in my line up
I think the TRX 2 is but its not program user friendly for me
WX 1065 maybe i could pull it out of the line up ?
I would guess its probably testing phase at the moment

It's definitely tough (at least for me) to do anything via the keyboard with the TRX2 -- not sure what the 1065 is, but I'm sure it's similar. Late model Unidens aren't easy/fast to program from the keypad, but they are better than trying to do the same on a TRX2 (and probably a 1065). I guess the only reasonable way to program it is using the EZScan software. All you will need to do is create a new TSYS, type P25, add the three control channel frequencies, and add group/private wildcards under that system and you'd hear everything. If you have EZ-Scan, manually creating the TSYS and setting it to P25 and adding the three control channels and group/pvt wildcards is fairly easy.

Mike

 

[dth1958]

After hours of frustration with the TRX 2 i threw in the towel
The goal was to have something NEXGEN in it to monitor HCSO
I finally got the county on it and it is part of a public feed
that's as far as i am going with it
Whistler WX 1065 is a GRE 500 Pro 197 clone not phase 2 if i remember right

 

[mtindor]

After hours of frustration with the TRX 2 i threw in the towel
The goal was to have something NEXGEN in it to monitor HCSO
I finally got the county on it and it is part of a public feed
that's as far as i am going with it
Whistler WX 1065 is a GRE 500 Pro 197 clone not phase 2 if i remember right

Rgr that. Yeah the 1065 probably won't do P2 then, since 500/197 do not. But, I do like my 197/500 scanners.

You've already posted a lot of useful info so far. I guess the rest will just be gathered over time as they do more testing and data collects in your SDRTrunk.

Mike

 

[ctpd845]

The radio IDs doesn't surprise me that they are following MARCS numbering scheme. All radio IDs on the Ottawa County site start with 62xxxxx except the dispatch consoles at the sheriff's office. The NWOPRSS also follows the same radio ID scheme, again except for the original dispatch consoles.

Also, I have logged some radio ID's starting with 18xxxxx on the Ottawa County Site. I assume they belong to techs from Cleveland communications.

 

[ctpd845]

I have attached a screencap of the Ottawa County Site on Pro96Com to show it looks like a single site system.

 

[dth1958]

Nothing else to report only that 1 page of data today between the hours of 10 to 1 surely just a test session
We'll see what happens in the coming days

 

[dth1958]

Might be time to find a new hobby .......

 

[mtindor]

Might be time to find a new hobby .......View attachment 93059

One ENC talkgroup and you just assume they are all going to be? Could be a TAC, DTF, SWAT -- all of which one would already expect to be ENC. I wouldn't give up yet.

 

[dth1958]

This goes back 35+ years wanting to be not heard from a simple scrambler on analog to nexgen and now this

 

[mtindor]

This goes back 35+ years wanting to be not heard from a simple scrambler on analog to nexgen and now this

Your fears seem to be founded. I get it. All my county LE (podunk Carroll Co) is ENC also. Makes you wonder just what they need to hide.

m

 

[ctpd845]

I wouldn't read to much into the encrypted talkgroup yet. A lot of times testing of new systems when they come online are done on encrypted talkgroups. When the NWOPSRS came online many years ago, almost all testing was done on encrypted talkgroups.

 

[dth1958]

2 more TG's ? another short test 1 page of data

 

[dth1958]

 

[mtindor]

View attachment 93206

Nice find!

 

[dth1958]

My brother in NC found that on facebook found it interesting