ICI Trunked System - Posts your new findings here!

LAflyer

Global DB Admin
Moderator
Joined
Mar 4, 2009
Messages
1,848
Location
SoCal
Looks like Santa Monica City Council approved plans to migrate to ICIS and has set aside $5.0mil of its captial improvement project funding for radio upgrades starting with the 2014-2015 budget year.
From what I can gather they are looking at a 10-year user agreement with ICIS.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Public Safety Radio Infrastructure
This project will replace the City's obsolete 15 year old public safety radio infrastructure used by Police, Fire, Public Works, Code
Enforcement and others. The equipment is outdated and soon will not be supported by the manufacturer. Replacement is
necessary to continue public safety radio communications and to integrate with the regional Interagency Communications
Interoperability System - ICIS.


=
 

karldotcom

Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2003
Messages
1,852
Location
Burbank, CA
Are they creating their own cell or expanding Culver City or Beverly Hills? Wonder what LA RICS thinks about this...or are they just focusing on LAC needs for now?
 

LAflyer

Global DB Admin
Moderator
Joined
Mar 4, 2009
Messages
1,848
Location
SoCal
ICIS model seems to be BYO frequencies so its quite likely there will be a new site for Santa Monica I would say utilizing all the UHF frequencies they bring over.
 

kearthfan101

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jul 24, 2010
Messages
436
Sources are telling me that Covina has gone the same direction as Glendora this past week. I'm currently monitoring their VHF channel but have not received anything, so I believe it. I do not have a P25 capable scanner, so I cannot get the new details on whether Covina is encrypted as well. Time for some more talkgroup hunting, guys and gals! As for Azusa, still analog, and I haven't checked the other cities which are scheduled to depart for ICIS soon.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

LAflyer

Global DB Admin
Moderator
Joined
Mar 4, 2009
Messages
1,848
Location
SoCal
2621 should be Covina PD dispatch. I believe they also have the 2622, 2623, 2624, 2625, etc block
 

rananthony04

Member
Joined
Mar 25, 2006
Messages
319
Location
Greater Los Angeles Area
2621 should be Covina PD dispatch. I believe they also have the 2622, 2623, 2624, 2625, etc block

I seemed to have already locked a few of these TG's out due to encryption. No sense in labeling them either. :roll:

Also, the DB lists the Glendora TG's as "D", giving the impression they are in the clear. :mad:
 

KJ6LYM

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
May 1, 2013
Messages
3
Location
Upland, CA
Is it true that Glendora PD is encrypted even though the database shows Glendora as being only digital? I'm not hearing anything on my Uniden BCD396XT. If it is digital, can someone help me on my configuration?
 

tsalmrsystemtech

Active Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Nov 19, 2008
Messages
1,612
Is it true that Glendora PD is encrypted even though the database shows Glendora as being only digital? I'm not hearing anything on my Uniden BCD396XT. If it is digital, can someone help me on my configuration?

Fully Encrypted. Good Night Forever. Database is in-correct.
 

kearthfan101

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jul 24, 2010
Messages
436
Just got word that Covina is also encrypted. Sayonara. :(


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

tsalmrsystemtech

Active Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Nov 19, 2008
Messages
1,612
Its been the sign of the times for the past few years at an alarming rate. Really curious about LASO and LAPD within the next year or two. I am afraid that their minds are already made up to move forward with the trend. Within the next 5 to 10 years we will about every department switch to silent mode "E"...

I have studied the trend and see that mostly all of the departments in Northern California have upgraded their systems and pretty much stayed 95 percent in the clear. I guess Southern California has a different way up thinking down here.

Now back to ICIS stuff....
 

AA6IO

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
May 10, 2007
Messages
1,511
Location
Cerritos, CA (LA County)
Please move this to another forum if you deem appropriate.
I am a member and past president of the Artesia/Cerritos Rotary Club. We get political candidates coming to us to seek support (which is not our policy) all the time. One was Todd Rogers, mayor of Lakewood, and sheriff (LA County for almost 30 years) who ran for LA County Sheriff in early June but did not come in first two places for run-off election.
I spoke with Todd about this issue in May, but did not want to post anything before the election. He was well aware of the encryption/scanner debate, and looked at me point blank, and said, LA-RICS will be encrypted. He also told me that most of his colleagues strongly favor encryption. This is in response to Pepsima1's comment above.
Now whether Todd Rogers is in the real know, I don't know, but look at Orange County, look at what is going on with the new TGIDs coming onto to ICIS, and the handwriting is not only on the walls, it seems be right in our faces.
OK, back to ICIS, if this post has not already been moved.
Steve AA6IO
 

AA6IO

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
May 10, 2007
Messages
1,511
Location
Cerritos, CA (LA County)
Been monitoring ICIS and ICIS P25 for last 24 hours with 536HP and ARC536PRO. Here are new talk groups I can't confirm and don't see in RRDB except #1, which says "deprecated." If anyone has any information, please advise. The RSSIs were all high.
37696 PmnPD Blue-2 (Deprecated) ICIS Glendale site 2 hits
2167 ICIS P25 Pasadena 11 hits
2384 ICIS Glendale 25 hits
2173 ICIS P25 Pasadena 3 hits
39600 ICIS Glendale 7 hits
33456 ICIS Glendale 11 hits
2206 ICIS P25 Pasadena 5 hits
2064 ICIS Glendale 10 hits
40880 ICIS Montebello 1 hit
Attached is a zip file of my ICIS/ICIS P25 loggings for today, including the above.
Steve AA6IO
 

Attachments

  • LA ICIS and ICIS P25 June 13 2014.zip
    2.8 KB · Views: 42

LAflyer

Global DB Admin
Moderator
Joined
Mar 4, 2009
Messages
1,848
Location
SoCal
Thanks for that but only 33456 is new. Rest are in the Db.

2167 = Burbank Animal Shelter.
2364 = Culver City PD Tac-2
2173 = Burbank Airport
39600 = Pasadena PD 11
2206 = Burbank Electric
2064 = Glendale Fire Admin
40880 = unknown Pasadena encrypted.

33456 based on its sequence is likely Glendale water & power.

Don't get confused about the manner talkgroup DEC binary convervsion work between the SmartZone and P25 systems and the manner radios associate with sites when they are out of their home area.
 

rananthony04

Member
Joined
Mar 25, 2006
Messages
319
Location
Greater Los Angeles Area
Been monitoring ICIS and ICIS P25 for last 24 hours with 536HP and ARC536PRO. Here are new talk groups I can't confirm and don't see in RRDB except #1, which says "deprecated." If anyone has any information, please advise. The RSSIs were all high.
37696 PmnPD Blue-2 (Deprecated) ICIS Glendale site 2 hits
2167 ICIS P25 Pasadena 11 hits
2384 ICIS Glendale 25 hits
2173 ICIS P25 Pasadena 3 hits
39600 ICIS Glendale 7 hits
33456 ICIS Glendale 11 hits
2206 ICIS P25 Pasadena 5 hits
2064 ICIS Glendale 10 hits
40880 ICIS Montebello 1 hit
Attached is a zip file of my ICIS/ICIS P25 loggings for today, including the above.
Steve AA6IO


Since were posting TG's, I guess I'll post a few that are not in the DB.
If for some reason these are conversions from the Smartzone TG's, my apologies.

Logged from the Pasadena P25 site:
Only one or two of these were in the clear, don't remember which though.

ID# 02581
ID# 02587
ID# 026 6 6 <-- REALLY!? I couldn't put 3 consecutive 6's in a row!?
ID# 02551
ID# 02554
ID# 02555

ID# 02558
ID# 02580
ID# 02582
ID# 02584

From the Smartzone sites:
One of these TG's had encryption on one side only, the rest were clear.

ID# 37264
ID# 36304
ID# 36816

ID# 36880
ID# 61728
 
Last edited:

rananthony04

Member
Joined
Mar 25, 2006
Messages
319
Location
Greater Los Angeles Area
Not necessarily yet, could be trial basis (hope it fails with other departments)

I might have to agree with you on that. The RR DB lists the ESGVRCN TG's as "D" instead of "E". Myself and a few others have mentioned this but our DB admin(s) have left it as is. Maybe they know something we don't. :wink: :confused:


KD6SBR said:
and besides you can also buy a P25 UHF OR VHF radio and program it as you need to for what freqs., and software is available for decryption AND encryption.
Its the same as buying a business band radio and using software to program the freqs.
I have already looked into it but not sure if I am ready to shell out around $800-$1000 for everything just to listen my local police (unless I had $$ to burn, lol)

I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole. :cool:
 
Top