BCD160DN/BCD260DN: Is this a new Uniden model? BCD260DN

[KevinC]

Nevermind, not worth it.

 

[tvengr]

Sometimes I wonder why I even post...

From post #5.

Sorry! I missed that one.

 

[trp2525]

If you look at the rear view on the Uniden site, the scanner lacks a connector for GPS. You have only power, external speaker, record out, and BNC antenna.

Perhaps they have GPS built in? Maybe they incorporated the previous design plans for internal scanner GPS from Radio Reference member jonwienke into these new models. If so, I hope he's getting paid royalties for his work!

 

[jtwalker]

Sometimes I wonder why I even post...



From post #5.

Oh, hi, didn’t notice you were in this conversation. 🤣

 

[tvengr]

Perhaps they have GPS built in? Maybe they incorporated the previous design plans for internal scanner GPS from Radio Reference member jonwienke into these new models. If so, I hope he's getting paid royalties for his work!

For a mobile to work properly, the GPS receiver would need a good view of the satellite. I don't believe that a receiver mounted inside a metal case would work very well.

 

[werinshades]

As it's been mentioned before by Airspy Joe, the 2 new scanners will not be a replacement for the SDS series. So, that means, it's not going to be made with the same chip they use on the SDS scanners. It looks like a 996P2, probably with that "revised hardware" we kept hearing about firmware upgrades accommodating, Like it's 996P2 predecessor, it will probably be able to have DMR/Cap+ and NXDN capabilities as well as P25 Phase 2 Trunking. It might come included, and could be sold at a higher price to offset the licensing fees Uniden has to pay. If the handheld version looks similar to the 325P2, then you'll have a pretty good idea.

 

[bigcam406]

Agreed

 

[palmerjrusa]

Good to know it looks like Uniden are still interested in producing new scanners!

Hope at some point there will be further iterations of the SDS100/200 scanners.

 

[trentbob]

As it's been mentioned before by Airspy Joe, the 2 new scanners will not be a replacement for the SDS series. So, that means, it's not going to be made with the same chip they use on the SDS scanners. It looks like a 996P2, probably with that "revised hardware" we kept hearing about firmware upgrades accommodating, Like it's 996P2 predecessor, it will probably be able to have DMR/Cap+ and NXDN capabilities as well as P25 Phase 2 Trunking. It might come included, and could be sold at a higher price to offset the licensing fees Uniden has to pay. If the handheld version looks similar to the 325P2, then you'll have a pretty good idea.

I agree with your thinking, even though it makes no sense to make a radio that is not efficient on Phase 2 simulcast as that is the trend of the future albeit, police will probably be encrypted..

For those who don't have simulcast issues, you will in the future.. someday.

Of course we all wish there was a less expensive simulcast friendly radio in the format of the 996p2 for less money than the SDS radios but imagine what would happen to the sales of the SDS series if they actually produced one.

What would probably be good for Uniden to do is come out with a series of firmware updates for the SDS series unlocking some potential and improving performance, I think that's a novel idea. /S

 

[trentbob]

Good to know it looks like Uniden are still interested in producing new scanners!

Hope at some point there will be further iterations of the SDS100/200 scanners.

We posted at the same time, I don't think there's going to be new radios similar to the SDS 100 or 200, if they haven't been able to produce any meaningful firmware updates improving performance and fixing bugs since April of 2019 for the SDS series I don't know if they could actually produce another radio similar to the SDS 100 and 200.

 

[werinshades]

I agree with your thinking, even though it makes no sense to make a radio that is not efficient on Phase 2 simulcast as that is the trend of the future albeit, police will probably be encrypted..

For those who don't have simulcast issues, you will in the future.. someday.

Of course we all wish there was a less expensive simulcast friendly radio in the format of the 996p2 for less money than the SDS radios but imagine what would happen to the sales of the SDS series if they actually produced one.

What would probably be good for Uniden to do is come out with a series of firmware updates for the SDS series unlocking some potential and improving performance, I think that's a novel idea. /S

Some here don't have issues with simulcast, or their departments are encrypted and don't have interest in purchasing a more expensive SDS Simulcast capable scanner, that they can't monitor the local police and in some cases, fire departments. I know many say "well their is plenty other things to listen to", and marketing a scanner for those that are following that line of thinking, this might be the perfect fit. I don't see a market for a follow up SDS scanner unless suddenly laws change and we can monitor encrypted traffic. Firmware upgrades would be a plus, but that has been a long time coming too.

 

[garys]

Can I buy a "pre broken" one and send it right in for a warranty repair?

And also….. you can now send in your BCD160DN and BCD260DN for repair.

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[palmerjrusa]

We posted at the same time, I don't think there's going to be new radios similar to the SDS 100 or 200, if they haven't been able to produce any meaningful firmware updates improving performance and fixing bugs since April of 2019 for the SDS series I don't know if they could actually produce another radio similar to the SDS 100 and 200.

I could be wrong but I think I remember the Uniden guy posting here a while back hinting Uniden had future plans for the SDS series but only after some newer scanners had been introduced. I guess these new scanners are what he was talking about.

So fingers crossed...

 

[fxdscon]

Can I buy a "pre broken" one and send it right in for a warranty repair?

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I'd be willing to bet that you'll soon see a seller on fleabay that would be more than happy to sell you one!

 

[JvdK]

I agree with your thinking, even though it makes no sense to make a radio that is not efficient on Phase 2 simulcast as that is the trend of the future albeit, police will probably be encrypted..

For those who don't have simulcast issues, you will in the future.. someday.

Of course we all wish there was a less expensive simulcast friendly radio in the format of the 996p2 for less money than the SDS radios but imagine what would happen to the sales of the SDS series if they actually produced one.

What would probably be good for Uniden to do is come out with a series of firmware updates for the SDS series unlocking some potential and improving performance, I think that's a novel idea. /S

Until you realize that, beside USA and Canada, there are not many countries that uses simulcast. That leaves a lot of countries where Uniden can earn money with scanners without simulcast. As @JoeBearcat said before, these 2 new scanners won’t be new flagships replacing the SDS series.

 

[JvdK]

JoeBearcat drops in from post #85

SDS100/SDS200: - Here We Go Again: Another SDS100 repair

I have the SDS-200 & BCD536, as well as the 996P2. Decide what you are wanting to listen to, and then research Radio Reference to see what systems are out there. Don't overspend on a scanner that is more than you need. Also, be aware that many larger agencies are going to full or partial...

forums.radioreference.com

 

[KevinC]

Until you realize that, beside USA and Canada, there are not many countries that uses simulcast. That leaves a lot of countries where Uniden can earn money with scanners without simulcast. As @JoeBearcat said before, these 2 new scanners won’t be new flagships replacing the SDS series.

Very true, but those would probably be Uniden Australia/Europe/Japan products. This was on the Uniden America website.

 

[garys]

Not everyone needs a SDS or even a 536HP. While the big systems dominate discussions here, there are still plenty of places where a less capable scanner is completely fine. I have both SDS scanners because I'm a scanner geek, but some people just want to listen to their local PD on analog or even conventional P25. Some people even live in areas where public safety is on NXDN or DMR.

I know you know that DVSI charges a lot for their vocoder and that price goes directly into the scanner cost.

Those scanners will be targeted to that market.

So the new units are regressing in capability.

Everything I care for is disappearing so why not this as well.

Good times.

 

[garys]

Joe Bearcat is very good at being vague.

I could be wrong but I think I remember the Uniden guy posting here a while back hinting Uniden had future plans for the SDS series but only after some newer scanners had been introduced. I guess these new scanners are what he was talking about.

So fingers crossed...

 

[trentbob]

Until you realize that, beside USA and Canada, there are not many countries that uses simulcast. That leaves a lot of countries where Uniden can earn money with scanners without simulcast. As @JoeBearcat said before, these 2 new scanners won’t be new flagships replacing the SDS series.

Yep and a lot of those countries the police are encrypted also but let's keep an eye out for European versions of these two radios that will be capable in other countries.